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20.11.2008
The Hidden Bill Angle in the SecState Play

Karen Tumulty and Massimo Calabresi hit on an interesting point in the latest issue of Time:

Viewed more cynically, bringing Clinton into the tent could ... put a leash on her globetrotting husband, who has a propensity for foreign policy freelancing.

A lot of people, including me, have been queasy about the prospect of Hillary leveraging Bill's global network in her dealings as secretary of state. But, from Obama's perspective, having Hillary at state may be preferable to the alternative when it comes to handling her husband. If his wife's not the country's top diplomat, Bill will be free to conduct his own shadow foreign policy via the Clinton Foundation, potentially complicating life for the Obama administration. If, on the other hand, Hillary takes the job, there will be strict limits on Bill's foreign activities. Which is to say, maybe putting Hillary in your cabinet is the price you pay for taking Bill out of play.

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:45 PM with 11 comment(s)

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mkayser0 said:

Yikes. Let's give the ex-president's wife the secretary of state job so the ex-president won't undermine the current president's diplomatic engagements with foreign nations?

Yikes.

November 20, 2008 2:15 PM

mmathog said:

(semi-repost):

Obama is consolidating power, it's of a piece with the Lieberman move.

The media's (and especially TNR's) Clinton derangement obsession is getting absurd, she'll likely make a perfectly fine S.O.S.

Why should Obama get caught up in relatively benign bickering when he has this opportunity to change the course of a nation?

Me? I only care about what he DOES with this consolidated power.

(I thought of Scheiber's reasoning here too, but I'm dismissing the cynical angle out of hand.)

Here's a clue, one of Obama's 5 favorite movies is 'Lawrence of Arabia,' note the scene toward the end when Faisal throws Lawrence under the bus, Obama might be doing the same thing here with Liebeman/Clinton, i.e., consolidating power, but this time by co-opting them. Why risk powerful and popular Dems arresting his agenda?

November 20, 2008 2:48 PM

williamyard said:

Just finished reading Lizza's piece in the New Yorker on the campaign, and among the stuff that stood out was Obama standing up to the supposedly invincible Clinton team after he said he'd talk with Iran et al. without preconditions and they pounced on it. Instead of backpeddling, Obama threw it right back at his attackers.

There may be advantages in restricting Bubba's behavior, but Obama doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who gives a shit: he's got other fish to fry. He'll basically tell Bill, we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way.  Which also means that, if all those old Clinton hands newly hired to help Obama have any doubts about for whom they work, they'll figure it out pretty quickly.

Bill Clinton needs Barack Obama far more than the reverse. The latter knows this, even if it hasn't dawned on the former yet. It will. Clinton's too smart to allow himself to degenerate into Norma Desmond, ready for her close-up. I'm betting he'll get with the program whether his wife runs State or not.

November 20, 2008 2:56 PM

perkowitz said:

why does he have to do such maneuvering, can't he just throw them in the bastille?

November 20, 2008 3:27 PM

bigm said:

What is Obama going to do to limit Carter's foreign policy escapades?

November 20, 2008 3:31 PM

mmathog said:

"why does he have to do such maneuvering, can't he just throw them in the bastille?"

nah, he can't. It's just easier this way, path to power with least resistance.

November 20, 2008 3:33 PM

adaglas said:

Has anyone considered this whole round of speculation is just the O-Team throwing a raw steak in the opposite direction so the dogs chase after it, while they pursue their actual candidates in leakless peace?

November 20, 2008 3:36 PM

The Ignorant Populist said:

Noam, come on. You lot are just trying to fill server space at this point.

Clinton's global initative as a threat to the new President's FP.

Please.

November 20, 2008 3:53 PM

mhgolob said:

Looking at it from Obama's view, he will be preoccupied with domestic/economic issues for at least the next 4 years. That's what he was hired to do, not foreign policy. Plus, there are no easy winners among Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, Israel, etc. Why not keep Hillary busy pounding sand while you actually do the job you were elected to do? The real question is why Hillary would take it. I guess she doesn't want to be a back bench senator with little authority and no major committee chairs. They each get something out of it. That is the way most human behavior works even at this level.    

November 20, 2008 5:21 PM

sleepyavl said:

Hillary's acceptance of SecState means farewell to any future candidacy for US presidence.

November 21, 2008 1:59 PM

The Stump said:

On the question of how much trouble Bill Clinton will cause if Hillary goes to state: I wouldn't

November 21, 2008 6:12 PM