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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
05.10.2008
Palin's Stupid Attack on Obama

Recently Sarah Palin's been attacking Barack Obama for a careless formulation in which he implied that all America is doing in Afghanistan is bombing villages and killing civilians. It's an incredibly cynical line of attack, particularly when Palin (hilariously) claims this "disqualifies" Obama from being commander in chief. (Of course what Obama meant was that an overreliance on air strikes--due in part to a shortage of ground troops--is causing a tragic and strategically counterproductive level of civilian casualties.)

Here's the question someone should ask Palin: Does she have any idea why Obama brought this up in the first place? I doubt it. Maybe someone should send her this:

Like clockwork, each of these “friendly fire” incidents brings about angry demonstrations in the streets, with crowds chanting, “Death to the government — down with the foreign troops!” The latest tinder in the fire was the killing of some 90 civilians, mostly women and children, on Aug. 22 in Azizabad in Herat Province. (While the Pentagon has taken issue with the reported death count, the Afghan government and United Nations stand by the villagers’ claims.)...

The growing disillusionment caused by civilian casualties is also driving old friends away from NATO and American forces. In an interview some months ago, a man who worked alongside American forces in 2001 in Urozgan Province to protect Hamid Karzai, now the Afghan president, posed a staggering question: “You speak English, and interact with foreigners, so can you swear by the Almighty and tell me if the foreigners are on the side of the Taliban, or of the Afghan people?”

He was hardly the exception: many average Afghans find it hard to believe that America, with its tremendous military power, is having so much trouble defeating tattered bands of Taliban warriors and don’t understand why it can’t avoid continuous civilian casualties.

If Palin believes this is an illegitimate topic for debate then I should think that's the real disqualifier here.

--Michael Crowley

Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:20 PM with 24 comment(s)

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colablease said:

Oh come now, Michael--Palin's attack is misleading, indeed near slanderous--but how is it "stupid"?  Answering it requires, ahem, context--and defending oneself by trying to explain context is always awkward and easy to ridicule.  Moreover, it plays to that lingering "blame-America-firster" taint on the Democratic brand  that the right-wing noise machine has been working relentlessly for years.  It may prove inadequate this time [God, I hope so], since people are getting a fix on Obama and Biden independently of it, and since the campaign agenda has moved onto ground where it's the *Republican* brand that's tainted.  But it's hardly stupid to figure that there might be enough juice left in the old "unpatriotic" canard to add a few wavering independents to the hyena-pack base.  What else do they have left?

October 5, 2008 3:40 PM

JEFF FREY said:

Of course it is really rich for Palin to be attacking anyone based on a careless use of words.

October 5, 2008 4:16 PM

Michael Crowley said:

i mean 'stupid' in the substantive sense. yes, it might  work politically.

October 5, 2008 4:21 PM

drdannyu said:

What Palin understands is irrevelant.  What she believes is irrelevant.  What ideas she has, thoughts she entertains, passing fancies she enjoys, memories she holds, experiences she recalls... irrelevant.  Totally, totally irrelevant.

Why irrelevant?  Because they in no way inform how she (or her principal) behaves.  She behaves for one reason, and one reason only, which touches only lightly on reality, understanding, or any other faculty of higher reasoning.  She behaves the way she does because she wants to win.  She may "understand" what Obama was saying, and even find it reasonable.  (This gives her more credit than I actually do.)  But who cares?  What does it matter?  Not me, and not at all.  Because, if invoking Obama's "disqualifying" statement works, she'll keep saying it over and over and over.  It or anything else that will do the job.

One wonders if a woman as ostensibly religious as she is has read Matthew 16:26.

October 5, 2008 4:24 PM

JEFF FREY said:

Absolutely right, drdannyu. And the worst part is that she believes that her winning is just God's will (my interpretation, perhaps a more accurate formulation is that she believes that if she wins, it was because God willed it). So if victory is because of God's will, then anything you did or said to win must also have been OK with God.

The same kind of thinking undergirds her statements about America being a force for good in the world and American exceptionalism. The only way you can cast any criticism of our actions as being unpatriotic is f you believe that any actions we take are by definition good because we are the good guys. It is the same sort of thinking without the theological content. It is also extremely dangerous for this country, not to mention being an exact continuation of the Bush administration's approach.

October 5, 2008 4:40 PM

thetraytiger said:

Based on the conduct of their campaign, I think it's now safe to say, amazingly and ironically enough, that John McCain and Sarah Palin have no moral core.

October 5, 2008 5:09 PM

psantillana said:

Hear hear, Michael Crowley, and thanks a trillion for even getting into the substantive sense. I hope more people shine a light on this particular nugget of horror.

October 5, 2008 5:37 PM

williamyard said:

What Dan said. I don't take the girl seriously. And I mean "girl": she is not, that I can see, a woman.

She could, and would, say Barack Obama has an anthrax lab in his cellar if her trainers told her to and she thought saying so furthered her cause. Why worry about what she believes, since that's beside the point? It's ironic that she purports to be a Christian given that, if there is a Hell and Satan is Pat Sajak, Sarah Palin is Vanna White.

Closer to the truth, this is McCain's Pickett's Charge and Palin is some gallant 17-year-old boy from some anonymous Appalachian hamlet marching proudly toward the Union armies with the great warped dreams of Dixie writhing in his heart until a cannonball splatters his brains all over south central Pennsylvania, ridiculously short of the aptly named Cemetary Hill.

October 5, 2008 6:20 PM

aeromonas said:

Williamyard, pleaes forgive me a moment of extreme pedantry, but while not completely absent, young men from "Appalachian hamlets" were underrepresented in Robert E. Lee's army.  The cessessionist movement was rooted in the lowland South.  The Scotch-Irish mountain men and women were generally subsistence farmers on small, rocky plots, not slave-holders, and thus looked on proposition that they go to die in the War to Preserve the Peculiar Institution with something of a jaundiced eye.  This, as much as Federal occupation, explains why Kentucky, a slave state, did not cessede as well as why West Virginia is now its own state.

This isn't to suggest that NO Appalachians fought for the Confederacy.  Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson was born in Clarksburg in what is now West Virginia.  And the well known Hatfield-McCoy feud along the Kentucky/West Virginia border started when a McCoy, who had fought for the Union was murdered by Confederate sympethizing Hatfields upon his return home.

October 5, 2008 6:45 PM

ironyroad said:

Jut btw, I recommend Carol Reardon's book "Pickett's Charge in History and Memory."  A powerful piece of work.

October 5, 2008 6:54 PM

Lyn39 said:

This topic of airstrikes and civilian casualties was covered in depth not so long ago on 60 Minutes.   60 Minutes is a fairly mainstream news program. And since McCain, Obama, and Biden have recently made appearances on this show, one would think that Palin might tune in from time to time, just to learn what little she can about what's going on here and abroad.

I"m not suggesting that 60 minutes serve as the end and be all of her political education, but it astounds me that she is so completely out of touch of what's going on in these wars she is so dedicated to fighting.  If she had watched just that one half-hour segment, she might actually have learned something.

I know that I am not making any high-brow intellectual statement here, but I'm interested in hearing if anyone out there agrees with me on this?

October 5, 2008 7:44 PM

psantillana said:

Lyn I guarantee you she does not watch 60 minutes. I know this as surely as I know that she doesn't read The Economist. The weird thing is that McCain is just letting her say all this crap. This is about McCain.

Oh!

And so is this [thank you traytiger!]:

www.rollingstone.com/.../print

October 5, 2008 7:58 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

Man oh man, Mr Yard - you  are the righteous Buddha these days.  Rock on brother.

October 5, 2008 8:17 PM

ironyroad said:

Palin wants no media discussion of potential or real problems in our Afghanistan campaign, because to recognize the reality of strategic options other than the one that's currently in progress, is to suggest that something might not be perfect with current policy.  And to suggest that something might be wrong is upsetting for us 11-year olds, who in Palin's view apparently constitute the population of the U.S.

October 5, 2008 8:49 PM

Nusholtz said:

Mr. Crowley highlights the disconnect between pollitical campaigns and the right to vote.  Because of the high stakes, distortions of fact are repeatedly fashioned for political purposes and often with success.  These distortions, when influential,  should be treated as seriously as other efforts to diminish the voting rights of the indiviual,  But how could that possibly be done when everything is a matter of interpretation?  Isaac Asimov had explained that once upon a time in our country, efforts to prevent horse thievery were a top priority, including simple name calling to public lynching, but only one thing put a stop to it -- the invention of the automobile..   Right now, Mr. Crowley and people like him, are our only hope.

October 5, 2008 9:19 PM

J.J. Gould said:

Awesomely, in the quotation I read, Palin doesn't merely claim that Obama's putative remarks disqualify him from being commander in chief; she claims that they disqualify him even from being *considered* for the role:

"Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may in my world disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief."

embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/.../cameron-interviews-post-debate-palin

I guess the principled thing to do, then, would be refusing to participate in a presidential election until the Democrats nominate someone who's not "disqualified" from appearing on the ballot ...

October 5, 2008 9:59 PM

icarusr said:

JJ, I don't think either her English or her brain is that nuanced.

October 6, 2008 1:01 AM

dubyadoubte said:

In Palin's world, Robert Gates is unqualified to be Secretary of Defense.

"KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan."

Damned Gates.  Blame America Firster.

October 6, 2008 8:20 AM

icarusr said:

Dubya: Robert Gates is only DefSec, not CiC, there; also the Palin was the Commander of the Alaska National Guard dontcha know.  There.

October 6, 2008 9:39 AM

satyendra said:

P. Santillana, thanks for the Rolling Stone link.  It has disabused me of many of McCain's self-styled legends that I held to be true.

October 6, 2008 10:17 AM

icarusr said:

And now, of course, the ad:

"Dubbed "Dangerous," the spot -- which the McCain camp says is running nationally -- takes an ill-considered remark by Barack Obama out of context to imply that he slandered U.S. troops.

"Who is Barack Obama?" the narrator asks. "He says our troops in Afghanistan are 'just air-raiding villages and killing civilians.' How dishonorable.""

The blop-blop sound you're hearing is McCain dredging the bottom of the Calcutta cesspool.

October 6, 2008 10:22 AM

CharlesFosterKane said:

psant,

I have to say that Rolling Stone piece is a really ugly smear job. McCain's military record should be off-record and, by the way, HE mentioned the fact that he "cracked" IN HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEECH AT THE CONVENTION! And the RS piece goes on to use passages from McCain's own memoir to paint him as someone dishonestly wraps himself in nobility.

McCain's POW experiences should be off-limits. Period.

Obviously, McCain is a flawed individual. He himself has admitted as much. Note that it was Fred Thompson who tried to paint McCain's POW period in pseudo-Rambo terms; it was not McCain himself. Yes, I'm disgusted with the campaign McCain is running but it has not yet reached the depths of the anti-McCain drive in 2000 (or the swift-boating of Kerry). And it certainly hasn't reached the depths of this RS hit piece, which is its own form of swift-boating. I don't think Obama would go in this direction, nor should he.

October 6, 2008 6:45 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

I meant to say it should be "off the table."

October 6, 2008 6:50 PM

satyendra said:

CFK, yes, he said he "cracked," and I don't hold it against him given what he went through.  Like you, I also thought his stay at the Hilton was off the table, and for the most part it still is.  I didn't like the part where Rolling Stone says that "after two years" McCain's treatment got better, as though torture didn't cripple or kill in more like two days.  I did find intriguing, though, that many got the option of leaving early if they would go on camera denouncing their country, which McCain refused for fear of court martial.

October 7, 2008 12:07 AM