One small advantage of choosing Biden:  The media, if they do their job, will show that clip from the last Iowa debate, which unfortunately took place in the afternoon when few were watching, in which Biden got a nasty question about his racially insensitive "gaffes," and Obama did him a solid.  Obama said he wanted to offer "testimony" on behalf of Biden and went on to say that Biden had been right on all the issues:

"I've worked with Joe Biden, I've seen his leadership, I have absolutely no doubt about what is in his heart and the commitment that he's made with respect to racial equality in this country. So I will provide some testimony, as they say in church, that Joe is on the right side of the issues and is fighting every day for a better America."

Whites will appreciate that Obama does not make too much out of relatively small acts of racial insensitivity.  

Also, Biden would help Obama secure close to 100% of the teplunkin2you vote.

OK, so why didn't we nominate Joe in the first place? As opposed to a guy who not only is light on foreign policy, but also barely registers with ordinary working American families on economic matters.

Is there any procedural provision that would allow the party to put Biden at the head of the ticket and scrap the newbie?

To agree with Mike , Biden isn't just one of the only non-millionaires in the Senate. He's the

Where were all of Biden's fan this past winter and spring when he needed them? Mesmerized with celebrity and nepotism while I was cutting checks to him. The process and media never allowed Biden an honest shot, but now he's heralded as an ideal VP pick. Puh-lease. I've loved Joe forever but still won't vote for the ticket if he's on it. Well, not unless he tops it.  Beyond bitter. Go John go.

tep, I assume you cut Biden a big check and worked tirelessly on his behalf, no?

We don't nominate people with the best resume in this country, for better or for worse. See, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Kennedy, Lincoln. For someone who claims to be as in touch with the common man as you do, not to mention for someone with your political sophistication, such an obvious point should be a gimme.

ratty, hah. For a second I thought Crowley was channeling Tep, but it was missing the anti.Obama screed at the end so I knew it must be genuine Crowley.

Bitter... and an idiot. If you believe in a single thing that Biden believes in you'd vote for the guy who has virtually the same platform.

The people who are truly starstruck are the ones who backed another Democrat and now are threatening to vote McCain because their personal choice isn't the nominee. Talk about a giving a politician a savior complex. If Biden had won the nomination and an Obama supporter said what travers21 just said.... oh never mind, there's no reasoning with you people.

"go John go" hah, the guy will be 72 in Aug. if he goes anywhere it will be damn slow. I haven't realized that much just how much McCain has aged since his glory days. His speech in front of the green wall made me realize that guy already has one foot in the grave. He better hope America is a lot more racist than people admit.

I think Biden would be a good choice.  I'm just dreading all the graffiti on the "O(s)ama Bi(n La)den for America" signs across America.

Well said, Barnacle.

Anatomy of a Tep response:

"BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,..."sarcasm""

"BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....Obama's "green, uninitiated, unpracticed, unseasoned, untried, unversed,  amateurish, immature, naive, rookie, sophomoric, wet behind the ears...young"

Kinda getting redundant there Tep, mix it up a little.  How about on even days you criticize Obama, and on odd days you criticize McCain,  on Sunday of course you'd rest (it is the Sabbath after all), or maybe just go back to criticizing the bloggers at TNR.com.

P.S. On special occasions, the sarcasm is mixed with the Obama line.

As one who liked Biden over Obama for the top slot on the ticket, I would be very happy to see Biden get the VP nod.

"tep, I assume you cut Biden a big check and worked tirelessly on his behalf, no?"

Posted tirelessly on his behalf, and earned no small amount of guff from my pals here in the process ):o(

I would quit my job and work for Biden if he could be vaulted to the top of the ticket instead of the rookie.

What if McCain doesn't make it to election day.  What next for the Republicans?

No one knows that Biden is Catholic.

No one knows that he is (relatively) poor.

No one knows anything about him except (maybe) that he has foreign policy knowledge and a huge, huge mouth.

Ask President Kerry how much the voters appreciate a good bio.

What purcellneil said.

"...so why didn't we nominate Joe in the first place?"

Uh, because he got fewer votes than anyone except Mad Mike Gravel? This is an ELECTION, remember?

Face facts, kiddies. The Dems dodged at least two bullets by nominating Obama, the clear winner for lots and lots of good reasons. Imagine what you would be doing now with Horn-dog Edwards as nominee. Or, if you want some real insight into the meltdown a Hillary nomination would have provided, check her e-mails at the atlantic.com. Absolutely grotesque.

Sorry, Dad, ot be so impertinent but tell us, do you really, in your heart of hearts, believe that the American people will vote in a time of cold war with Russia for an ex-community organizer with a grand total of 2 years in the Senate, nearly all of which was spent raising money and preparing his run for president?

When in our lifetimes has a Democrat with zero nat-sec'y cred won a national security election?

You posted a lot to support Biden, tep? Whoop-de-shit -- the lowest rung of Ron Paul supporters do that 100x a day.

When has any Democrat won a national security election in our lifetimes? What the hell is a "national security election" ? I assume it is "an election that tep declares to be a national security election because tep needs to prove a point by assigning something a loaded label."

I posted for Biden and cut a big check. As for volunteering, was poised to go to NH the day before he packed it in (too early, IMHO). Biden/Obama was my dream ticket, but I'll take Obama/Biden.

People will vote for Obama because he's got the intelligence to make good decisions based on the best info available rather than ideology, and they'll do it whether this is seen by them as "a national security election" (unlikely) or a "change" election (very likely). They will also vote for him because he provides absolution for America's race problem, and presents a face to the world most of them approve of.

You and I are focused on Russia, tep. Most voters aren't, and are even less likely to be in November, by which time GazPutin and the Boys will have swept up the broken china.

A quick take on the Biden news, with more to come tomorrow: --When I was touting Sam Nunn's credentials