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24.07.2008
Obama's Berlin Speech

Rhetorically, I thought it was one of the better speeches of the campaign--the exact right combination of love for America and plea for international cooperation. The closing riff was, not surprisingly, the high-point:

I know my country has not perfected itself.  At times, we’ve struggled to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people.  We’ve made our share of mistakes, and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. 

But I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived – at great cost and great sacrifice – to form a more perfect union; to seek, with other nations, a more hopeful world.  Our allegiance has never been to any particular tribe or kingdom – indeed, every language is spoken in our country; every culture has left its imprint on ours; every point of view is expressed in our public squares. What has always united us – what has always driven our people; what drew my father to America’s shores – is a set of ideals that speak to aspirations shared by all people: that we can live free from fear and free from want; that we can speak our minds and assemble with whomever we choose and worship as we please.   

These are the aspirations that joined the fates of all nations in this city. These aspirations are bigger than anything that drives us apart. It is because of these aspirations that the airlift began. It is because of these aspirations that all free people – everywhere – became citizens of Berlin. It is in pursuit of these aspirations that a new generation – our generation – must make our mark on the world.  

The framing of America and Europe's shared mission in the war on terror was also extremely deft, as Frank Foer noted while we were watching:

This is the moment when we must defeat terror and dry up the well of extremism that supports it.  This threat is real and we cannot shrink from our responsibility to combat it. If we could create NATO to face down the Soviet Union, we can join in a new and global partnership to dismantle the networks that have struck in Madrid and Amman; in London and Bali; in Washington and New York.  If we could win a battle of ideas against the communists, we can stand with the vast majority of Muslims who reject the extremism that leads to hate instead of hope.

The idea of the war on terror as an ideological and existential struggle, a la the Cold War, is a common theme among conservatives (particularly neoconservatives). But somehow it seemed like a perfectly natural Obama-esque theme today, with his emphasis on our shared interest in winning. Suddenly the war on terror was the Berlin airlift and the Marshall Plan, not Star Wars and the Minuteman Missile.

My only concern was the atmospherics. Every pundit I've heard opine on this has held up the imagery as the most valuable take-away for Obama today. I'm not so sure. In addition to looking a little too much like a mega-campaign rally for some voters' taste (as vice-presidential wannabe John Thune said beforehand, the votes you need to win are in America, not Germany), I worry that the combination of the visual and some of the rhetoric--"Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen--a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world"--was a little too post-nationalist for the typical American swing-voter. I'm not sure you win the presidency without being seen as an unambiguous nationalist.

It wasn't the speech per se--which, as I say, was perfectly calibrated. It was the impression a voter might get from a stray line or two, against the backdrop of a hundred thousand adoring Germans, that makes me slightly queasy.

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:23 PM with 34 comment(s)

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miceelf said:

I dunno. What I saw was an American politician who got foreigners to unironically wave American flags, rather than burn them, as Tep anticipated.

i don't think that's such a horrible thing.

July 24, 2008 2:32 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Point taken that the crowd was appropriately managed, but this was hardly a Deaveresque photo-op paired with Noonanesque rhetoric that inspires people at home.

The speech was bland and safe-- Crowley's (inadvertent?) metaphor is apt: it was like a sunny day on Sunnybrook Farm. Hardly inspiring or game-changing.

Put another way, Obama hit the ball up the middle. Not a home run, or even extra bases.

July 24, 2008 2:50 PM

propositionjoe said:

"It wasn't the speech per se--which, as I say, was perfectly calibrated. It was the impression a voter might get from a stray line or two, against the backdrop of a hundred thousand adoring Germans, that makes me slightly queasy."

The only people would walk away from the speech with that impression are people who went into that speech looking for that impression. It was a solid speech: it  was not filled with inane cheer lines, took no pot shots at anybody, and framed the war on terror as a potentially cooperative effort worth pursuing. All in all, a nice job.

July 24, 2008 2:58 PM

scire said:

wow, tep, you absolutely refuse to concede him anything, don't you? What's wrong with sunnybrook farm as a metaphor? Isn't that as all-american as apple-pie? And isn't that what Obama needs to be?

and wasn't everybody warning about what would happen if he did hit a home run? How that would somehow be a bad thing for him back here in America?

Geez.

July 24, 2008 2:59 PM

miceelf said:

Tep-

My take as well. Still beats a foul-out on a bunt or getting called out on strikes.

July 24, 2008 3:03 PM

primwallflow said:

I agree it was perfectly calibrated... it was certainly bold to deliver such an unabashedly pro-American/anti-Communist speech in a city that, let's not forget, was half communist a mere 19 years ago. And having lived in East Germany, I can tell you that communism is not a frequent punching-bag in popular political discourse, even among those glad the wall fell (and a fair number long for the DDR again, though I suppose no American president to the right of Eugene Debs would elicit much enthusiasm from them).

What worries me is that Obama isn't breaking out of his mold. There's been an inkblot quality about his appearances lately -- to me, he comes across as compelling and eloquent; to the Cornerites, he's presumptuous, hubristic, and, I kid you not, embarrassing --  and the lenses through which Americans view him are quickly ossifying. Not just his rhetoric but his imagery needs to be more persuasive. So I'm curious how the bona fide uncommitted voters will digest the speech.

Pace miceelf, if the networks show the waving American flags during their coverage tonight, then the man is golden.

July 24, 2008 3:04 PM

WoodyBombay said:

"I worry that the combination of the visual and some of the rhetoric--"Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen--a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world"--was a little too post-nationalist for the typical American swing-voter. I'm not sure you win the presidency without being seen as an unambiguous nationalist."

Yes, it would be perfectly keeping with the dynamics of this electoral season that the statement "I am a proud citizen of the United States" will be completely ignored so some folks can twist "citizen of the world" into something sinister.

tep, given that you think Bobby "Spirits be gone!" Jindal represents a home run, maybe baseball metaphors ain't your thing.

July 24, 2008 3:15 PM

tomeg said:

tep, I think a line drive is sufficient, with a classy swing and enthusiastic cheer. My fear is he will be perceived as Superman, with stellar appearances and instant salvations at every landing. People will not believe he could relate to them with their ordinary days with real problems and concerns and disappointments (when they have a good day or a problem solved, they, we, don't want to think that it's all about Barack Obama. Mostly we'd prefer to be let alone.)

July 24, 2008 3:20 PM

jobeek2 said:

Tep, did you never stop to think that if the thousands of Obama watchers in Berlin waved the American flag, rather than deride AmeriKKKa as you had anticipated bepierced Kreuzbergers doing, it wasn't because "the crowd was appropriately managed" but because your premise was flawed?

As someone living in these parts, I would have thought it a safe prediction that the masses that Obama would pull would make for a pretty bland cross-section of Germans. To all European standards he's a centrist, moderate politician after all; and even if Berlin is a swinging city, this visit still made for a show not to miss. Not to mention that even many German conservatives are simply enthusiastic about a potential American president who's nothing like Bush.

Measured to your expectations, however, it counts as a surprise. Before concluding that this must just mean that the Obama campaign "appropriately managed" those two hundred thousand spectators, did you ever think, hmm, maybe I was just wrong?

July 24, 2008 3:26 PM

jchapman020 said:

"I'm not sure you win the presidency without being seen as an unambiguous nationalist"

Is it not better to challenge and seek to overcome this view, than to cower in fear of it?  Today's speech laid down that challenge, in a nicely positive and non-threatening way.  Now we can have the debate, unless John McCain chooses to concede the point.  Either way, America will be the better for it.

July 24, 2008 3:30 PM

primwallflow said:

If you can read German, here's some live commentary:

www.zeit.de/.../2578653.xml

Interesting that Die Zeit's live blogger thought the speech was a little short. Also, the part about the hungry Berlin families was "tacky to German ears". Overall, though, he came across impressed, though he admitted that Obama "didn't play the part of the messiah today".

July 24, 2008 3:44 PM

jbutler28 said:

sidenote: is it odd that I, an ardent Obama supporter, longs to see the man once again shake hands with somebody who has lost their job in ohio or greet a newly minted citizen in New York...the super rallies are great but but i'm ready for apple pie again

July 24, 2008 3:49 PM

teplukhin2you said:

scire - the guy chose the stage of stages and gave a weak, bland speech. It's like booking La Scala and then belting out your favorite Celine Dion ballad.

I mean, really, folks: comparing the US-European divide to the Berlin Wall? Did Obama come up with this? If so, tell me why again you're so convinced of his genius?

July 24, 2008 3:49 PM

singlespeed said:

You can either bat for yourself or bat for the team. An RBI is as good as a homerun and I'd rather see him get the hit he needs that fan out looking for the dinger.

Even Jackie Robinson hit the ball up the middle.

July 24, 2008 3:52 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Oh, and did anyone notice that Obama goes to Berlin, the scene of the greatest struggle of our lifetimes, a clash of two visions of advanced industrial civilization that gripped the planet for nearly half a century, and  begins by talking about... I'll give y'all one guess.

Some one really needs to check this man's narcissism. He's making himself look ridiculous.

July 24, 2008 3:52 PM

cspencef said:

This is a "don't screw up" trip.  Aside from his malaprop about Israel being Israel's best friend (and hey, if that isn't true than what is Israel's problem?), he hasn't screwed up.  A solid single up the middle is also not screwing up.  (As someone stuck watching the Royals locally, I'm coming to appreciate the value of a good solid hit like that, rare as they are around here.  At least Obama's not sulking his way back to the dugout after a rhetorical strikeout.

Also, I second that emotion, jchapman020.

July 24, 2008 3:57 PM

icarusr said:

"didn't play the part of the messiah today".

Dang, and here I was, all ready for some good ol' fashioned flagellation.

July 24, 2008 4:02 PM

CraigMcGil said:

To me this citizen of the world stuff is huge mistake. The only questions people have about Obama is, is he one of us and does he seasoned enough to be president. The second of those questions can be solved by talkinng intelligently for the next several months. Convincing people that Obama is one of us is much more difficult. It requires overcoming deep stereotypes. I don't mind calling myself a citizen of the world and Obama has my vote. But, I think that being unambiguously nationalistic was absolutely essential and I think Obama may have missed the mark. Hopefully I am wrong.

July 24, 2008 4:05 PM

CraigMcGil said:

Also some people are attacking the wall analogy. I actually thought that was a good analogy. He wasn't just talking about the wall between the US and Europe, he was talking about the various divisions that devide mankind. These divisions really are the biggest problems in the world today. The substance of Obama's speech was right, I just do not share his confidence that it will work with voters.

July 24, 2008 4:09 PM

icarusr said:

"It's like booking La Scala and then belting out your favorite Celine Dion ballad."

Not into Celine Dion, Tep, but I hear she has sold millions of albums.  And Middle American likes her.  And you know, if that's the only way you can get Middle America to La Scala ...

"Some one really needs to check this man's narcissism."

Yeah, real nacissism on display in these TWO paragraphs of about FORTY, one of which talks about the promise offered by AMERICA to his FATHER, a KENYAN, extolling the vitues of life in AMERICA.

Incidentally, as someone who does not "look" Canadian, and who, for the eight years I lived in Europe, got asked (at least twice a week), "oh, really, where are you REALLY from?  I mean, your name does not SOUND Canadian ...", Obama's first line of these two paragraphs is entirely to the point.  All in all he spent all of three sentences talking about himself.  I think that you have officially jumped the shark, Tep.

"I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city. The journey that led me here is improbable. My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. His father - my grandfather - was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.

At the height of the Cold War, my father decided, like so many others in the forgotten corners of the world, that his yearning - his dream - required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West. And so he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody, somewhere answered his prayer for a better life."

July 24, 2008 4:10 PM

icarusr said:

jchapman020: Amen.

July 24, 2008 4:11 PM

drwohl said:

I don't think Obama is getting nearly enough credit for arguing that Europe (read: Germany) needs to step up their activities in Afghanistan.  Doesn't sound like Celine Dion to me.

July 24, 2008 4:24 PM

scire said:

Well, poor Obama. He just isn't ever good enough. His supporters constantly look for weakness in everything he does, and have to lay them all out: was he too eloquent, was he not eloquent enough, was he too daring, was he not daring enough, was he too apple-pie, was he not apple-pie enough, if he's popular in Europe, will he be seen as unpatriotic, if he's unpopular, will that be bad for pr and internation relations, and so on.

And his detractors: if he's eloquent, he's phony. If he's not eloquent, he's unoriginal. If he's popular in Germany, he must be the next Hitler. If he's popular in the Middle East, he must be a terrorist in disguise. If he says that he still thinks he was right about Iraq, he's inflexible. If he admits where he was wrong on Iraq he's a flipflopper. If he doesn't go to Iraq, he's an empty shirt and a smug inexperienced upstart. If he does go to Iraq, he's being too hubristic, who does he think he is.  If he doesn't show the common touch (ala basketball, bowling, etc), he's too snotty. If he does try to show the common touch he either must have practiced hours to make that basket, or he's an ass 'cause he doesn't score high enough.

And then people wonder why he tries to be all things to all people. We're making him dance like a puppet on strings. Or at least we're trying to. But when he does what we insist he do, he's pandering.  On the other hand, when he doesn't -- the hubris charge gets thrown at him all over again.

July 24, 2008 4:24 PM

scire said:

and on the la scala/celine dion metaphor -- most people can't stand opera, so I wouldn't exactly call that a homerun. But tons of people like Celine Dion. So it's an apt metaphor -- in Obama's favor.

He's trying to win. As I recall, you don't win by appealing to the elite minority that his detractors mock him for being a member of.

July 24, 2008 4:29 PM

GSpinks said:

"I think that you have officially jumped the shark, Tep."

Not to be snarky, but I think Tep's head would implode if he didn't jump the shark to deride Obama publically at least twice per day.

July 24, 2008 4:36 PM

tomhilliard said:

I am fascinated by the way in which this comment thread becomes an argument between Teplukhin and other commenters. It was an eloquent, powerful speech with real implications for the Atlantic alliance during an Obama administration. Whence cometh these petty snipes?

I don't believe that people like Teplukhin and conservatives at the Corner are simply anti-Obama partisans, nor that their underlying gripe is some imagined narcissism or bland speechifying. Rather, they are repelled by Obama's message. Obama is declaring that the time for unilateral go-it-alone foreign policy is over. He is offering Europe an equal partnership in world affairs and reminding them of their responsibilities in such a partnership.

Conservatives, however, do not want an equal partnership with Europe or anyone else. They want the U.S. to go it alone, and for other countries to join with us in a "coalition of the willing" on our terms. That is their underlying objection to Obama's speech. To which I say: after eight years, the Bush Doctrine is a proven failure. Let's try something different.

July 24, 2008 4:36 PM

The Stump said:

My friends at the Economist , who always seem to cringe when I riff on the parochialism of the average

July 24, 2008 4:59 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

Tep - projection anyone? You've got it backwards - you really need to check your narcissim.  You sound more unhinged every day.

July 24, 2008 5:19 PM

The Plank said:

Noam was impressed by the rhetoric in Barack Obama’s highly anticipated Berlin speech. But even though

July 24, 2008 6:38 PM

The Plank said:

While Noam and Mike have been debating the significance of Obama's Berlin speech today over at The

July 24, 2008 6:58 PM

lsernoff said:

The Obama groupies are all too mindful of America's imperfections, and the right wing doesn't want to entertain the thought.  The crucial middle are likely to get a gas pain when they hear an American politician cheered in Germany about  OUR imperfections.  They see the cheering section as even less perfect; and not without cause.  Next week we'll see polls that tell us what the peepul's reaction really was.

July 24, 2008 9:15 PM

The Stump said:

I meant to comment on this earlier but forgot about it amid the Berlin excitement. Anyway, I think the

July 25, 2008 11:33 AM

Robert Powell said:

This website is deeply weird. What the hell are the fragments in the last several comments from "The Stump"?  God, someone catch the webmaster and send him to Gitmo for re-training.

I'm interested in the fact that CNN International is showing only the fragment of the speech in which Obama says, "...I know my country hasn't perfected itself" & etc.,paragraph, leaving out the whole punch-line "But I also know how much I love America..." paragraphs.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'...

July 25, 2008 4:14 PM

The Stump said:

Just wanted to link to two bloggers who scooped us on stories I thought we were ahead of the curve on

July 27, 2008 8:45 PM