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24.06.2008
Can You Even Spend More Than $84 Million In 8 Weeks?

Over at his ABC blog, former Bush pollster Matt Dowd says it was a mistake for Obama to opt out of the public financing system, and not just because it damaged his reformer cred:

The way the system works he could have outraised and vastly outspent McCain in the next 90 days before the Democratic convention because primary dollars are still in place. After the convention, he basically only has eight weeks left and spending a little less than $90 million dollars (which is the public finance amount) effectively is going to be all but impossible.

The urban myth in presidential politics (which media consultants don't like to hear) is that paid advertising is key -- it absolutely isn't!

I'm skeptical. There's clearly a limit to what paid advertising can get you, but I'm not sure you hit it this side of $10 million a week (which, of course, has to fund your entire organization, not just ad buys). More importantly, the point of opting out and raising additional money is to expand the traditional electoral map. Even if, for the sake of argument, it really is hard to spend more than $84 million in 8-plus weeks in a 15-20 state campaign, it can't be that hard if you're spreading it out across 30-40 states.

And, of course, in some respects it's not the absolute amount of money you spend, but the relative amount. If you're able to outspend your opponent two or three to one by investing in non-traditional states, then, even if you're not spending very efficiently, he probably has to respond in some of those states, which diverts resources from the 15-20 he'd like to target. I'm not sure how you conclude that's not an advantage.

Finally, Obama may just be unique in some respects. Between his race, his name, and his relatively brief time in the public eye, the biggest challenge he faces may  be reassuring voters that he's kosher (so to speak). It's probably worth having a little extra cash lying around if that's your top strategic consideration.

(Via Jay Carney.)

--Noam Scheiber 

Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:11 PM with 17 comment(s)

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johnalthousecohen said:

Blog post heading: "Can You Even Spend More Than $84 In 8 Weeks?"

I think he's going to need more than $84.

June 24, 2008 4:43 PM

jemerk said:

The excess can go to the paid staff as raises, isn't that how they developed the big payday methodology anyway?

June 24, 2008 4:58 PM

jemerk said:

Here is an idea - stack up the money raised and the winner is - THE ONE WITH THE MOST MONEY!

June 24, 2008 5:00 PM

liamvt said:

But how much does Obama need to spend in order to reassure voters? The polls in a lot of the late primary contests didn't move despite him outspending HRC.

June 24, 2008 5:02 PM

blackton said:

liamwt, yes they did, they went from 20 points down in Pa. to under 10. And he maintained his lead in NC and recovered some in Indiana. After that, he basically stopped running. He didn't even go to WV or Kentucky once. And it is a lot of nonsense that he outspent Hillary that much. Hillary raised over 200 million and loaned herself 12 million and left 20 million in debt. Obama raised 250 million and finished with 30 million. All told, Obama spent maybe 10 million more than Hillary, and from the way people talk he outspent her 4 or 5 to one everywhere. Pretty bizarre math. And if you don't believe me, check out the numbers yourself. Hillary was a disgrace in how she spent money, and her supporters are liars with their bizarro math.

June 24, 2008 5:31 PM

aculimic said:

What exactly is the penalty for spending too much money?  In light of the private jet, etc, might McCain view the fines &c as the cost of becoming president?

June 24, 2008 6:06 PM

Rhubarbs said:

"Liars with their bizarro math."

And with that, blackton ends the long search for the most succinct possible definition of the modern conservative movement generally and the Republican Party in particular.

June 24, 2008 6:12 PM

michael said:

"former Bush pollster"? Yeah, & John Wayne Gacy was a clown...Dowd was more than a pollster & should know more than is blog indicates.

Did anyone hear what Stephen Hayes said on David Gregory's show? "I think this is huge.  Last week, when he opted out of public financing, there was a lot of talk about anticipated attacks from 527 and things of that nature.  This is the reason Barack Obama is not going to subjection himself to the public finance limit.  He‘s going to be able to do something that‘s so important for somebody who‘s a relative new comer to national politics, and that is define himself.  He can spend a ton of money in places where John McCain is not going to be up for potentially months to tell people who he is. I think his latest talks about him, talks about his heartland values, it‘s a tremendously effective ad.  It‘s not entirely accurate, all of it.  But it‘s a tremendously effective ad that I think is likely to appeal to exactly the kind of voters he‘s going to want to poach from John McCain, these independents and moderates." <http://tinyurl.com/3gokn6>

June 24, 2008 6:42 PM

jmc@420 said:

This reminds me of Brewster's Millions.  www.imdb.com/.../tt0088850

June 24, 2008 7:35 PM

adaglas said:

" Can You Even Spend More Than $84 Million In 8 Weeks?"

Would a William Bennett joke be in poor taste here?

June 24, 2008 9:00 PM

peter1943 said:

Just checking comments after taking  a few weeks off. Oh look, there's Blackton saying "her supporters are liars with their bizarro math."

Same as it ever was.

June 24, 2008 9:21 PM

fseidle said:

By opting out of public funding Obama has assured everyone he is in it to win it. And all the American voter wants is the back benching of republicans and and a Mc Cain loss in November.

June 25, 2008 6:18 AM

dbhuff said:

Its a hit, for sure, but the staffing and ad operations are the point. The money we are talking about now drawfs what was spent even 4 years ago. McCain's 'traditional' donars have figured out how to sqeeze the pickle for 20-30m per month. So Obama builds up a big staff in 50 states, he puts adds on the air, gets callers calling, rents spaces and equipment. The day after he is nominated, all the money he has raised before as 'primary' money can't be used. And he has an $84m budget for the rest of the campaign. Um, no. He will be at the peak of his spending by then, where 10m/wk might suffice now, it won't then. And he's going to have to manage well funded (though apparently not yet existent) attacks from 527s etc. More importantly, with the 50 state strategy, he's tacitly helping down ticket, and pushing hard for a more bulletproff democratic majority (and a lot of folks beholden to him after the election) He's going to own the place when it is done.

June 25, 2008 9:16 AM

blackton said:

peter, great rebuttal. Wow, I didn't realize my claims were so far off the mark and thank you for setting me straight about the numbers I listed.

Oh wait, you didn't actually do that did you? You just made a snide comment without any rebuttal whatsoever, as though being snide somehow makes what I said untrue. Maybe in the mind of a 15 year old, but not in real life.

June 25, 2008 10:40 AM

michael said:

Nicely put, dbhuff. Yes, his goals go beyond winning and maybe beyond doing what he can to govern more easily.  He's thinking less of a 'permanent campaign' in the partisan sense and more about using this as an opportunity to more than put ballots in a box.  When Barack speaks of opportunities for a new generation it is more than a four or eight year plan and is more comprehensive than a different road than Bush or the GOP.

Either Dowd is really dumb or he's only ignorant due to his not understanding that Barack sees the next step as a means...not the end.  It's not a matter of "how much to win" or even "how much to bring in more votes to congress".  

Big ideas and long term changes don't have a fixed budget so speaking in terms of "How much is enough?" is missing the point.

There really isn't a price tag for his 'plan' and he'd be foolish to limit what can be done in the future because public financing may be enough "for now".

June 25, 2008 10:56 AM

The Stump said:

I just wanted to elaborate briefly on my response to that Matt Dowd item yesterday calling Obama&#39;s

June 25, 2008 12:53 PM

GSpinks said:

"biggest challenge he faces may  be reassuring voters that he's kosher (so to speak)"

To hear some people break down the demographics, Kosher may literally be the perfect word to describe the situation...can anyone say "Flor - i - da"?

Peter, blackton beat me to it, but I'm gonna repeat it anyway because it bears repeating; quit whining like a snivelling child, and rebut the argument; ad hominem rebuttals are so late 20th C.!

June 27, 2008 10:37 AM