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20.06.2008
Obama More Cynical Than Bill Clinton? Brooks Says Maybe

David Brooks pronounces himself stunned by the depths of Obama's ruthlessness and cynicism in response to yesterday's public financing announcement. Brooks makes several valid points, but I think he's wrong to be so shocked (or, if he's not sincerely shocked, then to express shock) at the picture of Obama that's emerged "in recent weeks." Close observers of Obama know that his ruthless streak dates back at least to his first campaign for state senate in the mid-'90s, and probably earlier. On the other hand, I don't think it's correct to imply that Obama is far more cynical than the typical politician (and certainly not more so than Bill Clinton, as Brooks suggests).  

The key with Obama is to distinguish between his inside game (i.e., mechanical, procedural, largely behind-the-scenes maneuvering) and his outside game (i.e., the policies/positions/stands he takes on the public stage). Obama has been as ruthless as anyone at playing the inside game, but less cynical than most when it comes to the outside game.

I parsed the distinction at some length in this recent piece. As a practical matter, it means Obama is perfectly comfortable with something like the campaign finance opt-out, or stiff-arming McCain on the unmoderated forums. But much less comfortable with symbolic, Sister Souljah-style pronouncements. I can't imagine him, say, presiding over the execution of a mentally retarded man to prove he's tough on crime, as Bill Clinton did during the '92 campaign.

That distinction is why I was more surprised by Obama's recent proclamation that Jerusalem should remain the undivided capital of Israel than the campaign's maneuvering on public financing or the joint forums. The Jerusalem line was much closer to the kind of crass, symbolic pander Obama has typically rejected (if hardly an egregious version of it). And I think Obama's discomfort with it became clear when he tried to walk it back a bit in the days that followed.

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:45 AM with 21 comment(s)

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bigm said:

It would seem that some "inside game" matters carry over to the "outside game."  By arguing that government should be more transparent and that money corrupts politics, Obama has made pronouncements about "inside game" issues and therefore opened himself up for charges of hypocrisy.  Obama himself recognizes this since part of his announcement yesterday was that he promised to work to enact new policies to fix the "broken" public financing system.

I think the issue isn't whether Obama is ruthless or cynical.  He obviously is.  It's just whether he wants to pander.  Or, more accurately, whether he wants to obviously pander to someone outside his liberal base.  Note that the differences that you cited between Bill Clinton and Obama are that Clinton was willing (maybe eager) to demonstrate that he would stand up to the left wing of his party (Souljah, execution).  Has Obama done that?

In any case, it's not clear that Obama was "discomforted" by the undivided Jerusalem line because it was a pander.  He actually seemed to enjoy the applause and ovation that the line evoked in the room.  Rather, he was discomforted because he apparently didn't realize the import of what he was saying and how it would upset his liberal base.

June 20, 2008 11:15 AM

Andrew Davis said:

Hey, you know what, I want to win.

June 20, 2008 11:26 AM

achester99 said:

I still don't understand what the problem was with Jerusalem. He didn't walk back from anything. He said Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel, and that it shouldn't have barbed wire fence going down the middle of the city.  He also said that the specifics of Jerusalem's status should be decided by the parties, not imposed by the American president.

On all of these he said the exact same thing as McCain, by the way.

June 20, 2008 12:11 PM

r-brown207 said:

I must say I'm going to enjoy the discomfort of naive supporters of Obama who thought he was some political knight in shinning armor. Obama is an opportunistic politician just like most the the rest. The only difference is that he is better at it and is able to hoodwink the masses with his shtick. What a politician says and what a politician does are two very different matters, case in point campaign finance reform. Obama is what you get when you nominate someone with a limited track record. Now we get to find out who he is much too late. All of the B/S about change is just rhetoric. We are in for politics as usual with Obama. Let the rationalizations begin as his supporters sort out the reality of Obama versus their perceptions of him as a new, different politician who is going to "change" Washington.

June 20, 2008 12:18 PM

boneill said:

Actually, r-brown, you won't find nary a "naive Obama supporter" here.   We didn't think he was a white knight, but a talented, smart, engaging, intellectually curious and tough politician.  ANd that is all I wanted.   There won't be discomfort.   Sorry your enjoyment is going to be limited.

June 20, 2008 12:46 PM

WoodyBombay said:

I'm not surprised that Brooks is doing his Claude Rains impression here, because he's so good at it. But the rest of the right-wing Obama critics seem not to care a bit that McCain is flat-out breaking the law when it comes to campaign finance:

talkingpointsmemo.com/.../200902.php

Other than that rank bit of hypocrisy, thought, I'm loving it. Republicans, green with envy that a Democrat can so successfully raise money, lashing out that it's All So Unfair! Making their case that the first candidate for president in 30 years who won't use taxpayer money is a "Fast Eddie." Seems like just a month ago they were posturing in public about how they relished the thought of running against weak, radical Obama and were glad the Dems were self-destructing by not going with the tough-as-nails fighter HRC.

June 20, 2008 12:51 PM

GSpinks said:

"the discomfort of naive supporters of Obama who thought he was some political knight in shinning armor"

You're gonna need to find another blog-site; I recommend the DailyKos website.

"Now we get to find out who he is much too late."

Actually, we knew he was against soft money and 527 groups for a long time now. I don't blame Obama in the least for avoiding public financing in favor of being able to defend himself from Republican 527s. If McCain were not just a figure head, he would actually have the political capital to clamp down on the Republican 527s and having done so would have drawn Obama into public financing. You can punish nuance all you want, but that does not change the fact that when Obama discussed campaign financing last year he specified preconditions including the elimination of 527s, and he has kept his word and opted out of public financing because McCain can't contain his 527s.

"Obama is what you get when you nominate someone with a limited track record"

If I have to choose between a relatively unknown commodity, or a well known commodity who has flip-flopped like a fish out of water during this campaign, I'll take the unknown commodity any day.

"What a politician says and what a politician does are two very different matters"

Unless the politician is claiming both side of a position, like McCain, in which case its at least 3 very different matters.

"Let the rationalizations begin as his supporters sort out the reality of Obama versus their perceptions of him as a new, different politician who is going to "change" Washington."

Perhaps you should save the gloating until after Obama is elected to office and has a chance to fulfill his "promises"?

June 20, 2008 12:51 PM

timteeter said:

Barack Obama chooses not to accept public financing because a) he can raise three times as much money IN SMALL DONATIONS,  and b) because he can raise a hell of a lot more than his opponent, whose popular support is such that he can't get decent financing any other way.  He is accused of hypocrisy.  David Brooks in today's Times is upset.

John McCain decides that offshore drilling is in our national interest,  contrary to his earlier position, in a naked pander (cf. the "gax tax holiday").  This is something that will do probably nothing for our national energy crisis either now or in the foreseeable future.  McCain is accused of dishonesty.  Paul Krugman in today's Times is upset.

I really don't see a difficult choice here.

June 20, 2008 12:54 PM

blackton said:

bigm, Obama is against mandates for one, which drives people like Krugman nuts.

"Obama is an opportunistic politician just like most the the rest." Put this under the No shit Sherlock file.

But "All of the B/S about change is just rhetoric", no buddy, do you honestly think he is going to continue the policies of Bush? I will take a potted plant over Bush and be happy with the change. I don't give a rats ass about politics, I care about policies. Now why don't you try reading about Obama's policies and say what you agree with and disagree with and leave the whining about politics behind.

June 20, 2008 12:58 PM

lymon1 said:

We all (I think) want Obama to win, but this is a double-edged sword: he has to hide his machiavelianism more than most because his appeal is based in large part that he isn't machiavelian.  

June 20, 2008 12:59 PM

blackton said:

lymon, that was true in the primary, I don't think it is true in the general, he has to appeal to the Hillary crowd so that is why you hear more about the Bush third term, Supremes, etc. The change in direction is the key, not the change in tone.

June 20, 2008 1:38 PM

arsonplus said:

This seems kind of important:

In a new Insider Advantage/PollPosition poll in Georgia, McCain and Obama are statistically tied, with Libertarian candidate Bob Barr winning 6% of the vote. In an I.A. poll from last month, Obama trailed by 10 points -- since then he secured the Democratic nomination.

McCain 44 (-1 vs. last poll, May 20)

Obama 43 (+8)

Barr 6 (-2)

June 20, 2008 1:39 PM

AMVHuck said:

For the nth time, Ricky Ray Rector was not "mentally retarded." He was in reasonably sound mind when he shot and killed police officer Robert Martin, shooting him in the back after previously shooting and klling another man. Rector then shot himself, suffering permanent brain damage in the process. A court held him competent to stand trial. He was convicted and ultimately executed.

As for David Brooks' "shock" at Obama's cynicism, I doubt very much if Obama is as cynical as Brooks, whose "thoughtful conservative" act is just that. This is the guy who wrote a "witty" story about not being able to find a $50 dinner in rural Pennsylvania when in fact he'd been at a resort where he could have run up a tab of $150 without wine if he had wanted to. He's also the guy who, when nailed on his big fat lie, gave the young reporter who caught up with him a shameless "you'll never work in this town again" tongue-lashing.

June 20, 2008 2:55 PM

tomeg said:

I intended to comment unfavorably on the overuse of the words 'cynic' 'cynical' and 'cynicism' that has all but drained them of meaning, but world-weariness drained me first.

June 20, 2008 3:09 PM

teplukhin2you said:

This is the best and shrewdest analysis i've seen of the Obama phenom. If Noam is correct in his analysis then my image of Obama is greatly improved. Eager to see more evidence on this.

June 20, 2008 3:26 PM

sleepyavl said:

Obama is a regular politician. The existence of a big distinction between what the man actually does  -the "mechanical" part, as Scheiber wonderfully calls it- and the lofty words he puts forward is the best defining sign of a demagogue.

I was raised to look at someone does, not at what he says. This down-to-earth remark serves perfectly for Obama too - a ruthless and pretty nasty politician with a gift for gab and truckload of self-love. This narcissistic man wrote two books - about himself!

June 20, 2008 4:27 PM

sleepyavl said:

AMVHuck, David Brooks isn't running for president. Obama is.

I would welcome that kind of scrutiny on Brooks if he ran for office. He isn't. Obama is.

Therefore calling his cynicism and wheeling and dealing s exactly appropriate. Mr. Lofty Obama is a pol from Chicago, so there's no reason whatsoever to not look at his baggage.

June 20, 2008 4:30 PM

fougasseu said:

I like Brooks some of the time, but too often he does this sad, older Fredric March bit, so wise and bemused, so gentle, so.... Brooks is a partisan Republican who loved the Bush machine when it was in vogue, and now, with the GOP on the elevator heading down, he's slyly slouching towards the middle. Nope. Doesn't work. You wanna talk about cynicism? Take a second look at David Brooks and his affable personality, then take another look at his columns from '02/'03. It just doesn't wash.

June 20, 2008 4:42 PM

teplukhin2you said:

fou - great New Yorker cartoon this week: two grumpy old man CEO-types sitting in their leather armchairs at the club, one turning up from his newspaper and saying, "That David Brooks sure reads a lot of books, doesn't he?"

June 20, 2008 4:53 PM

sleepyavl said:

Brooks is bad, but he isn't running for President. Obama is. He should get all this scrutiny - and more.

June 20, 2008 5:12 PM

jeffMaine said:

AMVHuck is right to note that the characterization of Bill Clinton during the 1992 campaign as "presiding over the execution of a mentally retarded man to prove he's tough on crime" is completely misleading.  

As AMVHuck notes, Ricky Ray Rector was of normal intelligence when he committed the crimes for which he was sentenced to death --a crucial distinction.  

Now, I consider the death penalty to be unethical, but is it legitimate to distinguish as more unethical the execution of a mentally deficient man who was of normal intelligence when he committed his crimes?  Rector said he'd likely vote for Clinton just days before his death, suggesting he was unaware of his fate.  I think his reduced mental capacity actually caused him to suffer less-- so what is the logical argument to suggest that executing a mentally deficient man who was of normal intelligence at the time of the crime is any worse?

Over 75% of U.S. citizens favored the death penalty in 1992, so Clinton would have been seriously weakened as a candidate had he acted differently in Rector's case.  As he noted in the classic interview by Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! in 2000, he would have been seen as shirking his responsibility as governor.    

Given Obama's declarations of support for the death penalty, it's risible to suggest that Obama would act differently given the same circumstances.  Still, both men likely only claim to support such a heinous policy because it's necessary strategy to win the White House.  After all, law school friends of Clinton claim he admitted to being against it entirely, in American Prospect, for example.  Likely evidence of Obama's opposition will emerge soon.      

June 22, 2008 7:26 PM