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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
19.06.2008
Gates As Obama SecDef?

Joe Klein has a nice column this week, built around this interesting thought:

Obama has said he admires Doris Kearns Goodwin's wonderful Lincoln biography, Team of Rivals. "He talks about it all the time," says a top aide. He is particularly intrigued by the notion that Lincoln assembled all the Republicans who had run against him for President in his war Cabinet, some of whom disagreed with him vehemently and persistently. "The lesson is to not let your ego or grudges get in the way of hiring absolutely the best people," Obama told me. "I don't think the American people are fundamentally ideological. They're pragmatic ... and so I have an interest in casting a wide net, seeking out people with a wide range of expertise, including Republicans," for the highest positions in his government.

But what does that mean? It has become something of a tradition for a President to claim bipartisanship by appointing stray members of the opposing party who either have a similar outlook or are tucked into the most obscure Cabinet positions; even George W. Bush hired Norman Mineta—remember him?—as Secretary of Transportation. Obama seems intent on going beyond that. "I don't want to have people who just agree with me," he said. "I want people who are continually pushing me out of my comfort zone." Obama said he'd be particularly interested in having high-ranking Republicans advising him on defense and national security. "I really admire the way the elder Bush negotiated the end of the cold war—with discipline, tough diplomacy and restraint ... and I'd be very interested in having those sorts of Republicans in my Administration, especially people who can expedite a responsible and orderly conclusion to the Iraq war—and who know how to keep the hammer down on al-Qaeda."

When I asked him specifically if he would want to retain Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense, Obama said, "I'm not going to let you pin me down ... but I'd certainly be interested in the sort of people who served in the first Bush Administration." Gates was George H.W. Bush's cia director—and he has been a superb Secretary of Defense, as good in that post as his predecessor, Donald Rumsfeld, was awful.

No doubt, partisan Democrats who equate bipartisan government with namby-pamby policymaking are horrified by the thought that Republicans might keep control of the Pentagon. But Gates has been neither ideological nor namby-pamby. ...

No question that there would be some irate liberals if Obama went this route. But it would send a powerful message at the outset of his administration. In particular, it would buy him some real political cover for withdrawing from Iraq, however he decided to execute that. (Conversely, keeping Gates on while deferring withdrawal indefinitely could be an absolute disaster politically.)

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:11 PM with 13 comment(s)

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Rhubarbs said:

Gates has been the best SecDef in a long time. Keeping a nominal Republican in the Pentagon to oversee the withdrawal is probably a good idea politically, and if so, Gates is the guy.

Then again, I'm a bit leery of continuing the Democratic tradition of appointing Republicans to run the Defense Department, which only reinforces the stupid "Democrats are weak on defense" myth. Find a green Republican to run Interior, for example, or a moderate GOP governor to run Education. But Democrats need to start staking out a record in the Pentagon.

(Plus, the whole deal with "Team of Rivals" was that Lincoln appointed to his cabinet his fiercest rivals within his own party. He didn't surround himself with Democrats or Buchanan administration holdovers; he gave top jobs to the 1861 equivalents of Hillary, John Edwards, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, and the like.)

June 19, 2008 3:17 PM

WoodyBombay said:

There are enough smart, able Dems who can run the Pentagon, State Department, etc. that Obama doesn't have to defer on national security to the GOP, no matter if it's a relatively successful guy like Gates or an abject failure like, oh, all the rest of them. And God knows there's enough diversity of thought among Dems that he can fulfill the "Team of Rivals" thing and still stay on the right side of the fence. The last thing he should do is bring a Big Daddy Republican in to keep this nation safe.

The "Democrats = Weak on National Security" is a bogus meme that is propagated by 1) GOP lying and smears, and 2) Democratic capitulation to those lying and smears through unnecessary, weak self-flagellation. If Dems wanted to go that route they would have nominated Harold Ford Jr.

June 19, 2008 3:21 PM

ratnerstar said:

Yes, do it.  

That is all.

June 19, 2008 3:24 PM

alexmparker said:

One problem with the "Team of Rivals" theory--if you're not Abraham Lincoln, it can really, really, REALLY backfire.

And Obama's not the first to use Team of Rivals as a governing manual:

"One of Clinton's favorite books is 'Team of Rivals,' Doris Kearns Goodwin's account of Abraham Lincoln's Cabinet, and she assembled her own team of advisers knowing their mutual enmity in the belief that good ideas come from vigorous discussion. But while many campaigns are beset by backbiting and power struggles, dozens of interviews indicate that the internal problems endured by the Clinton team have been especially corrosive."

www.washingtonpost.com/.../AR2008030503621_pf.html

June 19, 2008 3:48 PM

geoffgraham said:

I agree with Woody and Rhubarbs that sending a message "I don't trust those lily-livered Democrats on national security any more than you do, so I've picked this guy who doesn't have a problem loving America to be my SecDef" is a bad message and meta-message. There's only one reason to keep Gates at Defense - to continue the task of undoing the tremendous damage Rumsfeld did to the military. Like Rumsfeld, I'm not an expert on the military, so I don't know how much damage he did (my impression is he did quite a lot), how much progress Gates is making in undoing the damage (apparently quite a lot), and whether a new guy/gal can come in and continue with the best of Gates' reforms without losing too much momentum (no opinion on this). Handled right, a pro-Gates/anti-Rumsfeld message would give Obama lots of cred with the military, both rank and file and senior officers.

June 19, 2008 4:11 PM

jet said:

I'll second Rhubarbs thoughts above and suggest that Gates, if kept on, can bring up a couple tough Democrats as Assistant Sec Defs, one of which could be promoted at Gates recommendation; that's one possible way in which Democrats could get back in to the Pentagon.

June 19, 2008 4:19 PM

Rhubarbs said:

Procedural question: If Obama simply does not accept Gates' pro forma resignation and also simply fails to nominate a replacement SecDef, then Gates could continue in office without a new Senate confirmation, yes?

If so, then perhaps Obama could say, "I look forward to nominating my own secretary of defense, but right now, Secretary Gates is engaged in critical work rebuilding our overstrained defenses, and I have asked him to stay on a bit to see this work through. And I've told his family they can have him back soon." Then keep Gates long enough to oversee the difficult part of the withdrawal -- the quick move down to 40k to 60k troops by the end of 2009 that's going to happen no matter who is president -- so as to put a Republican face on the instrumentalities of the drawdown.

Buy a little cover for the inevitable rightwing nutter "stab in the back" carping about Iraq and how if we deployed our fantasy brigades for just another few months we'd have won and transformed the Arab world. Let Gates be the guy who tells Congress that no, there are no more brigades ready to replace the ones we're pulling out, and that was a decision he and President Bush made when they implemented the surge by holding brigades in Iraq and speeding up the deployment of new ones to Iraq in 2007 -- thereby putting a "hole" in the brigade rotation schedule that would not allow troop levels to be maintained through 2009.

Then, around May 2010, let Gates move on, give him a medal, and name a Democrat to the Pentagon.  Downside: Confirmation hearings in mid-2010 set up a midterm theater for Iraq blame by Republicans.

June 19, 2008 5:21 PM

butchie b said:

Gates is the best SecDef since Bill Perry, and would be an excellent choice to stay on.  Seems to me there are plenty of hawkish Dems (Ike Skelton, call your service) who would do just fine.

June 19, 2008 5:25 PM

teplukhin2you said:

?? Here are the key officials from GHW Bush's defense and f-p team:

Secretary of Defense: Richard B. Cheney

Under secretary of Defense for Policy: Paul Wolfowitz

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: Colin L. Powell

Secretary of State: James Baker

National Security Adviser: Brent Scowcroft

Man oh man, we're watching Obama morph into MoveOn's next public enemy #1, before our very eyes.

June 19, 2008 6:22 PM

dubyadoubte said:

butchie b:

Concur.  Gates is an outstanding SECDEF.  Since he took over, American casualties in Iraq have dropped drastically due to the surge, he's taken strong action on Walter Reed Hospital and kicking butt over at the Dept. of the Air Force.  And he's not an arrogant, clueless dolt like his predecessor whose reaction to problems was:

a) Stuff Happens

b) I'm an old man, what can I do

c) You have the Army you have, not the Army you wish you had

d) Blame the Press

e) Blame Clinton

f) Blame Private Jones and Sergeant Smith

e) All of the above

June 20, 2008 9:01 AM

choward said:

Yes, keeping Gates on is a good idea; not the only good idea, but still a good idea. Anyway, it need not be for four years; a year or 18 months would do. Name a Dem as assistant and move him/her up when Gates retires.

June 20, 2008 11:01 AM

The Stump said:

Matt Yglesias lays out the problem with keeping Gates on as Secretary of Defense: The problem with retaining

June 20, 2008 2:16 PM

BrotherFromAnotherPlanet said:

OK I'll give you a Republican at the DofD  if you give me Kucinich in the Treasury, Barbara Lee at Education and McKinney to head up the Dep of the Environment.

What? You prefer Republicans to elected Democrats? Why am I not surprised.Hypocritical triangulators.

June 23, 2008 8:48 AM