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13.06.2008
Tim Russert's Hidden Genius

Tim Russert obituary

Like a lot of opinion journalists, I've been known to lament Tim Russert's central place in the media cosmos. Russert elevated the gotcha question into an occasionally tedious art form, then forced us to admire his handiwork. Those of us who believe a public official can be more than the sum of his inconsistencies--or, for that matter, less than the sum of his consistencies--sometimes had trouble forgiving him this.

But you have to give Russert his due. While just about every other mass-market news organ has suffered an absolute bloodletting these last two decades, the fortunes of "Meet the Press" have moved in the opposite direction. 

The program was averaging well under 3 million viewers per week when Russert took over in 1991, versus 3.5 million for the reigning colossus of the genre, ABC's "This Week." By the late '90s, however, even as competitors like Fox News materialized and broadcast-TV ratings declined overall, Russert was well above 4 million. And though his numbers sagged during the dog days of the Bush administration in 2006 and 2007, they never dipped below "This Week"'s high-water mark. More importantly, even before the viewership jolt that was this year's primary season (nearly 4.5 million viewers some Sundays), "Meet the Press" remained enormously influential in setting the weekly agenda for newspapers, magazines, and cable.

How on earth did Russert pull it off? Unlike the nightly broadcasts, which have become irrelevant in a world of ever-present headlines, and unlike cable chatter, which can be less illuminating than the lunchtime din at a moderately-selective prep school, "Meet the Press" consistently made news, a rare and precious accomplishment for an interview program--for all of television news, in fact.

Of course, the real trick is figuring out Russert's secret news-making sauce, which is slightly more complicated. A show like "Meet the Press" hinges on a delicate equilibrium: Prominent guests show up to impress its important viewers. But the important people only watch if the guests say semi-interesting things. Without the opportunity to impress all those viewers, the guests wouldn't show (at least not with the same frequency). Without the chance at some drama, the viewers wouldn't tune in (at least not in the same numbers).

Russert's ingenious solution to this problem: The gotcha. The delicious possibility of seeing a secretary of state or joint chiefs chairman get that shifty-eyed, busted-for-filching-the-homeroom-Jolly-Rancher-stash look when they contradicted an earlier pronouncement kept us watching week after week. But the questioning was rarely so probing or aggressive or unpredictable that a reasonably agile guest couldn't study his way to a passing grade. 

The gotcha may have been a wearying journalistic device. But, as a strategy for getting big names in front of big audiences on a regular basis, and driving the political news cycle in a way that no other TV program could, it was a stunning success. For that, Russert deserves real credit.

Update: David Remnick has a somewhat similar take--though his is far more elegantly written.

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:48 PM with 18 comment(s)

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mmathog said:

He certainly got a lot of ratings, and a lot of people liked him.

Although I am not one of these people, I understand that today is not the day for criticism. My condolences to his friends and family.

June 13, 2008 8:01 PM

johnalthousecohen said:

Faint praise...

How 'bout getting someone who actually appreciated the show to write something?

June 13, 2008 9:26 PM

fougasseu said:

He was the best mainstream journalist of our generation. Period. Who else put Cheney on the hot seat?

Who else challenged Perot? The list of memorable confrontations is endless.

Who else gave network  time to real journalists like David Broder and real historians? In an age of speed-talking, know-nothing pundits, laughing at their own jokes, Russert was special. And what a contrast to the show put on by Stephanopoulos. Prayers for him and his family.

June 13, 2008 9:45 PM

basman said:

Stinting and pissy: not the day for it; and also what Fougasseau said so graciously.

June 14, 2008 12:05 AM

raylward said:

Russert was the most popular tv journalist because he was the most likeable.  As with politicians, Americans appreciate and trust those who seem genuine, "down to earth" a frequent description.  His ever present smile, his boyish enthusiasm, his love for family, and, especially, his modesty, those were traits that identified Russert.  And while the gotcha question may have captured the  attention of the chattering class (because it is they, not most Americans, who wish to see a politician squirm), it had little if anything to do with his popularity.  

June 14, 2008 7:22 AM

wagonjak said:

For a more measured look at Russert, check out Pam's House Blend blog on his passing and the comments below it...he was an engaging interviewer, and seemed like a nice man, but his "probing gotcha" interviewers barely scratched the surface of the corruption and rot just below the surface of this society.

And his focus for weeks before and after the publishing of his books on Big Russ and dads on his show and all his appearances made me aware of what a salesnewsperson he really was. He, like Matthews, became part of the chummy beltway gang who enabled this corrupt administration and it's crimes.

RIP Little Russ...

June 14, 2008 1:05 PM

basman said:

n.s. I also reject your stinting and reductive analysis--posed as if you had discovered some recondite mystery--of Russert's success. "Gotcha" is either wrong or begs a question--a conclusion posing as a premise. Russert surely had his faults--say his sentimentality--but so does America have hers. His faults seem picayune set aginst his magnitude now so sadly framed and illuminated by his untimely death. It is obtuse to fault Russert for what he was not. He was the mainstream heavyweight champ. And not to recognize that, implicitly to reject that, is is to turn, say, on any given day to realclearpoltics--say today with all the praise and tributes so evident there--and reject virtually all of what presents itself there. He utilized contradiction, dare I say, dialectically with his guests to try and get at the truth. He did not do it to say "gotcha" and so to appease a sadistic audience 's delight in seeing big wigs squirm. Rather, he pressed their past statements against their seemingly contradictory more present pronouncements to take their measure, and always giving them a chance to explain, and leaving his viewers to draw their own conclusions. "Tough but fair" is the near universal characterization of his interviewing. And he knew his brief--no one has anything to feel superior to on that score. Not for nothing did he rise so far so quickly with such eminences as Moynihan and Cuomo and then on broadcast television. Let us have a little humility here. Let us not be so disdainful of mainstream and of working class values and discernment. Let us not get too complacent in our own self satisfaction, smugness, sanctimony, superior knowledge and insights, intellectual hipness, knowing depths, and sophistication. Russert was great and had a great common touch, nay a great common embrace, them fusing in him, as attested to by the outpourings of love and heart break from the cream of American journalism  to mainstream and working class and  high and low and middlebrow folks such as myself , who have shed more than a few tears over the last about 24 hours at the loss of this expansive, open hearted, high spririted and generous man who loved his family, his work, his country, his God and life itself, open and exuberant and optimistic and sentimental and tough minded, just like the best of America itself.

June 14, 2008 4:08 PM

BrotherFromAnotherPlanet said:

Basman, when did cherry-picking facts, lying to your audience and being a leading player in the destruction of serious journalism become working class values? The idea that he was either tough or fair is a fantasy. I'm very sorry for his family but please control yourself when beatifying celebrities.

Noam, when did commercial success become the goal of great journalism? Am I to assume you eat at McDonalds out of deference to their success, type on a Dell because they're so popular and listen to the latest chart topper, because you know the cream always rises...

June 14, 2008 5:50 PM

basman said:

Brother, say what you feel. You and I will have to agree to disagree. Success is not a necessary condition for greatness, to be sure, but ,for me, Tim russert was one great and successful guy.

June 14, 2008 6:50 PM

basman said:

Brother: one more thing though we are no doubt doomed to disagree. Here is Hitchens in brief memoriam to Russert, which makes Scheiber in this instance look even more petite. I could not have come close to saying this 1/100th  as well:

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It’s almost unbearable to think of Tim Russert dying so soon after celebrating the graduation of his beloved son, Luke, and one’s first thought must be for the young man and for his mother, our dear colleague Maureen Orth, as well as for Tim’s all-important father and three sisters. Everything about this premature death is simply awful, with the conceivable exception of one salient detail: Tim was taken from us while working his usual arduous end-of-week stint for Meet The Press. That, one can be reasonably sure, is the way he would have wished it.

That old phrase “solid citizen” pops straight into my mind when I think of Tim. First of all, it describes his face and frame: quite the exception in a profession so devoted to lissomeness in its anchorpersons. It also helps sum him up as a family man and warm friend, who never forgot his deep roots in the Buffalo working class. More importantly, though, it describes a person who thinks it is a clear responsibility to be well informed about the affairs of the republic, and to share this information and analysis with others. The highest office in a democracy, it has been said, is that of the citizen. Very well: in that case Tim was a good one.

Not very long ago I was sitting opposite him in the studio during a break, and wanted to check some abstruse detail about the campaign. Out flashed his Blackberry and before the music came on for the next segment he had the relevant information for me and was asking someone to help print it out. I was impressed, not so much by his digital mastery, but by the amazing speed with which he could “access” anything that was germane to politics. Hard work was his secret: hard work and a certain commitment to honesty.

The broad and genial openness of his features, surmounted as they were by those perpetually-arched eyebrows, could at first give the impression of an innocent. This impression would not long survive an encounter. I remember having the extraordinary experience of finding that I was being given more time than I actually wanted, on Meet The Press during the impeachment crisis in 1999. And the questions were very searching and penetrating ones, proceeding logically from one another and from my answers, and leaving one very little room for mere rhetoric.

On the other hand, and especially with his own one-on-two interview program, The Tim Russert Show, he could be extremely generous and essentially get out of your way while eliciting your opinions. I most particularly remember him doing this for Newsweek’s Jon Meacham and myself, who had published competing books on the role of religion last year. Tim was much more than a “practicing” Catholic: he was a devout and highly serious one who attended church every day. It was very handsome of him, I thought, to offer a whole hour of more or less free publicity to one atheist and one Episcopalian. And he relished the discussion and the disagreements, on the set and off it, for their own sake.

The journalistic profession sometimes makes itself look slightly absurd when one of its “stars” dies, printing and screening slightly too many tributes and making it seem as if an irreparable gap has been left. But in more than a quarter-century in Washington I haven’t seen or felt anything to equal the shocked sense of loss that’s been inflicted by the death of Timothy John Russert Jr. Professional respect of this kind has to be earned, and earn it he did. Affection of this quality has to be earned as well, and he managed that by his infectious humor and by an unmatched reputation for small kindnesses and courtesies. Tim had a really big heart, though it now hurts to say that.

June 14, 2008 7:37 PM

aeromonas said:

"Faint praise...

How 'bout getting someone who actually appreciated the show to write something?"

Well, faint praise is better than rank hypocrisy.  The commentators here at TNR have been bitching about Russert and comparing him unfavorably to Chris Matthews throughout the primary season.  It isn't nice to speak ill of the dead, but all the encomiums to the man's "genius" emanating from a publication that had few kind words for him while he was alive are, to say the least, dissonant.

June 14, 2008 7:59 PM

BrotherFromAnotherPlanet said:

Basman, I appreciate your conviviality, I'm sorry if I was tetchy. Yes Hitchens is very eloquent (as usual) especially about the pain of an unexpected and far too early passing, but IMHO, wrong (as usual). Check out Somerby's archives on Russert. www.google.com/custom

June 14, 2008 8:10 PM

newdex said:

Tell it, Brother

June 14, 2008 8:24 PM

AaronBBrown said:

Tim Russert Was No Walter Cronkite

themoderatevoice.com/.../tim-russert-was-no-walter-cronkite

[But Russert was a bigger part of the problem than the solution, and if he was an exemplar of the best the news business has to offer then it indeed has fallen far.]

June 16, 2008 8:05 AM

AaronBBrown said:

One Angry Man

Is Keith Olbermann changing TV news?

www.newyorker.com/.../080623fa_fact_boyer

June 16, 2008 8:36 AM

AaronBBrown said:

Goodbye to a Standup Brother

By Gwen Ifill

www.theroot.com/.../46872

For the record, I respect Gwen more than any other journalist/editor in the broadcast news business today. She would be my first choice to take over the anchor position on Meet the Press.

June 16, 2008 10:20 AM

basman said:

Aaron your comments and links are fair to a point but I have to disagree with this as too either or:...But Russert was a bigger part of the problem than the solution... The statement takes me back to the sixties when I fellow travelled with guys on the hard left. I don't agree, in a nutshell , that a mainstream guy who embodies mainstream, majoritarian values is simply by that (ipso facto, as they say in certain circles)  "part of the problem." As I say, that is for me way too binary. As for Gwen Ifill the editorial she wrote during the Imus thing was eloquent to the point of inducing tears. And I don't like Olbermann hardly at all, though if he could get over himself, and be more disinterested, he could be pretty good.

June 16, 2008 4:33 PM

basman said:

p.s. Gwen Ifill's piece on Russert --the link for which I thank you--had me welling up some too.

June 16, 2008 5:11 PM