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13.06.2008
McCain Rejects Obama's Semi-Stingy Joint-Forum Offer

People who know my views on the subject will understand why I was happy to receive this e-mail from the Obama campaign:

Statement on McCain’s Refusal of Joint Appearances Offer

June 13, 2008

“Barack Obama offered to meet John McCain at five joint appearances between now and Election Day—the three traditional debates plus a joint town hall on the economy in July and an in-depth debate on foreign policy in August.  That package of five engagements would have been the most of any Presidential campaign in the modern era—offering a broad range of formats—and representing a historic commitment to openness and transparency.

“It’s disappointing that Senator McCain and his campaign decided to decline this proposal. Apparently they would rather contrive a political issue than foster a genuine discussion about the future of our country.

“Senator Obama believes that the American people deserve an open and accessible debate as they choose between real change and four more years of failed Bush policies, and he welcomed McCain’s invitation to offer voters ‘the rare opportunity of witnessing candidates for the highest office in the land discuss civilly and extensively the great issues at stake in the election,’” said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe.

Did I mention I was happy about this?

Update: Uh, downgrade that from "semi-stingy" to "stingy." Ben Smith says the Obama people proposed doing the joint town-hall the weekend of July 4th--at which point there might actually be a larger TV audience in Canada than the United States.  

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:32 PM with 6 comment(s)

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primwallflow said:

After seeing the way McCain's NYC town hall was discredited for basically being a Potemkin gathering, I've changed my mind and now agree with Noam. Better to post up on McCain's strong side (town halls) and force him to dribble on his weak side (speeches).

I am still holding out hope, however, that the debates still cut out the insufferable networks.

June 13, 2008 2:15 PM

jhildner said:

I predicted this response:  Make a totally reasonable counter, including an economy-focused debate, with a similar Sorkinesque vibe, that everyone knew McCain wouldn't accept, just as McCain knew Obama wouldn't accept his absurd proposal.  Done and done.  Now, let's get on with the campaign over here in the real world....

June 13, 2008 3:31 PM

lymon1 said:

“Senator Obama believes that the American people deserve an open and accessible debate "

Yeah, those traditional debates are real open and accessible, as would be having a single town hall meeting on the 4th of July.  All hail the new kind of politics -- kind of appropriate this came the same day as the death of the only network pundit who had any teeth.

June 13, 2008 10:00 PM

sullydog said:

I think the July 4 date proposed by Obama is actually reasonable--and politically deft. The nation has a day off to celebrate Independence. What's more American--spending 7-4 getting plastered, or watching a debate between two candidates for President? Obama's campaign is all about bringing Americans back into politics. The July 4 debate fits that perfectly.

(And yes, before anybody pounces, I understand that this was all kabuki from the git-go. All the better that McCain is now in the position of turning down a 4th of July, Independence Day, star-spangled debate. Obama played this one well.)

June 14, 2008 3:24 AM

lymon1 said:

Why was this "kabuki"?  Many thought Obama should accept, not only because it would be good for the nation but because he might well outperform McCain (on substance or on the "new/vigorous vs. old/tired style points).  

At the very least, couldn't Obama have proposed, you know, five town hall meetings?  Maybe one being a "vitual" one on the internet, and open to International questions?  Instead Obama basically proposed the same wretched three traditional debates, added a fourth, and a single town hall meeting guaranteed to be watched only by shut-ins.  As I said, all hail the new politics.  

June 15, 2008 10:46 AM

GSpinks said:

I'm with sully on this one; I think it was a fairly beautiful counter offer.

1. America can only take so many debates: five is plenty for one general election in my book

2. 7/4 has potential to be the most widely viewed debate in history (the name Adrian Peterson keeps coming to mind), plenty of people do actually stay home until its time to go to the park and watch the fireworks, and Obama would mop the floor with McCain on The Economy

Hopefully, McCain will counter with something more reasonable than his first proposal.

June 16, 2008 9:33 PM