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29.05.2008
Another Semi-Defense of Chris Matthews

Like Jason, I pretty much agree with every word of Hendrick Hertzberg's recent defense of Matthews. I think Matthews is as earnest, well-informed, and well-intentioned as Hertzberg gives him credit for, which is why I tune into him much more often than any other tele-pundit.

The only thing I'd add is that even some of Matthews outsize flaws speak well of him, relatively speaking. Hertzberg writes that:

The profile that ran in the New York Times Magazine a few weeks ago captured some of Chris (the insecurity, the self-promotion), but some is not all. The insecurity without the huge appetite for life, the self-promotion without the empathic social conscience that lurks somewhere behind all that love of the political game—these give a distorted impression.

True enough. But I've always appreciated how transparent Matthews is with his insecurities and ambitions--there's no pretense to him whatsoever. Compare that with a guy like Tim Russert, who's every bit as self-absorbed and status-obsessed but would have you believe he spends his days on some mountaintop doing the brutally unrewarding work of handing down judgments. 

Watching the two of them interact during MSNBC's primary-night coverage is always a treat, with Matthews panting like an over-eager labrador retriever and Russert doing his best Edward R. Murrow impression. My favorite moment came after the Cleveland debate in February, when Matthews kept nudging Russert to admit he'd hooked a "marlin" by getting Hillary to say she regretted her war vote. Every muscle on Russert's face screamed self-congratulation, but he knew it wouldn't be dignified to officially take a bow, and so he just sat there and beamed. Had the roles been reversed, Matthews would have yapped about it all night long--he practically did that anyway. And I, for one, would have preferred it. I'll take Matthews's honesty about who he is and what he's doing over Russert's absurd self-righteousness any day of the week.

--Noam Scheiber 

P.S. For what it's worth, not only am I not a Matthews friend like Hertzberg, I'm not even an especially disinterested observer like Jason. I wrote a piece about Matthews and Bill O'Reilly and their fellow Catholic populist-pundits back in 2001 (no longer online), for which I interviewed Matthews at his home in Chevy Chase. (I cringed when I read Mark Leibovich's Times magazine profile because it made me realize how much more I could have gotten out of that material if I'd known what I was doing back then.) The piece wasn't especially negative--more anthropological than polemical--but I later heard through various not-so-back-channels--like TNR colleagues who appeared on "Hardball"--that Matthews took it pretty badly. Which, with the benefit of hindsight, is what you'd expect. Frankly, I'd like him less if he'd done a better job repressing his reaction.

Update: Here's that old Matthews piece.

Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:03 PM with 14 comment(s)

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liberal reformer said:

I remember your piece well, Noam. I think I have that issue around here somewhere, still.. Rick Hertzberg's take on Matthews is elegant, indeed. Hertzberg is such a talented scribe. I consoled myself after the 2004 election debacle with his Politics. The one thing about Matthews that puts me off is his motor-mouth.

May 29, 2008 7:32 PM

mmathog said:

Matthews is a tad different than his other 100% corporate drone PR clowns (Russert, Williams, Gibson, Blitzer, etc...). Those guys are all a complete joke, completely ignorant pretty boys.

Matthews is deeply sexist, drunk, and has an insane hatred of the Clintons; that said, he does have the heart of a Democrat (not that that's necessary, but it does set him apart) and when a warmonger appears on his show, watch out.

Also, unlike all the others, he probably doesn't favor privatizing social security and cutting taxes on the rich.

May 29, 2008 8:36 PM

scire said:

I love Chris Matthews. I too watch him more often than the other tele-pundits. He's a real guy, and lets his warts hang out there. I like his attempts to have integrity, even as he sometimes betrays himself, I love his passion for what he thinks is right, and I love his love for this country. He drives me crazy sometimes when he tries to stir up non-issues into issues, or when he interrupts somebody whose point of view I really want to hear, when he artlessly calls women he finds attractive "beautiful" to their faces, but it's worth it, 'cause he's real and he tries to get at the truth honestly and it's not all about ambition for him. I love his earnestness. I hope the rumours about him being let go are not true. I'll stop watching MSNBC if that happens. Olbermann has become unbearable, Abrams is embarrassingly youthful (hard for me to believe he's in his early 40s), and David Gregory is too nakedly ambitious.

Tim Russert is pompous and full of himself.

May 29, 2008 8:43 PM

mpatrickhendri said:

Matthews is a blowhard, nothing more. He and Bill O are not even in same league. Bill spent an entire interview with the president talking about himself - even W seemed blown away.

Matthews seems pretty clever and not particularly insecure. He's just a regular dude, with all the hangups we all have from worrying about women. We really are a sad bunch. Damn penis.

May 29, 2008 8:54 PM

mjaneo said:

Yes, sometimes I am really annoyed when Chris tries to make non issues into issues and when he interrupts  some of his very thoughtful guests before they complete the POINT . . .

About his really hating their Clintons . . . maybe it's just that he sees them for what they really are: the self-centered, egotistical, politicians who will say and do anything to gain and retain power.

We already know how they failed the Country and their Party and their VP over the Lewinsky affair by clinging to The Presidency instead of resigning for the sake of something larger than themselves. Yes, that behavior was hateful!

May 29, 2008 10:07 PM

huntlib said:

The MSM is a bunch of wimps. Whether they're worried about stepping on conservatives' delicate little toes, or bending over backwards to prove that they're not too soft on Obama, they will do whatever the most aggressive candidate tells them to do:

www.variety.com/.../VR1117986594.html

"But a review of primary coverage conducted by the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism and the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard U. found that during the height of the primary season, 'The dominant personal narratives in the media about Obama and Clinton were almost identical in tone.'"

"If anything, Obama appears to have gotten roughed up in the media more than Clinton, at least in recent months."

"'The trajectory of the coverage began to turn against Obama, and did so well before questions surfaced about his pastor Jeremiah Wright,' according to the researchers. 'Shortly after Clinton criticized the media for being soft on Obama during a debate, the narrative about him began to turn more skeptical -- and indeed became more negative than the coverage of Clinton herself.'"

"'Analysis suggests that both Obama and McCain are heading into the general election battle with less control over their personal messages than they might like. In many ways, the coverage of the campaign has been dominated by a series of small storylines or boomlets of coverage that so far have raised unresolved questions but not yet framed an overall storyline -- Obama's friendships and core ideology, the meaning of his promise of change; McCain's core ideology, his relationship with lobbyists and a looming battle, largely quiet during the primaries, over the direction of the conduct of the war in Iraq.'"

May 29, 2008 10:29 PM

AMVHuck said:

Sorry, but I'm amazed that anyone can find Matthews palatable. No pretence? Rather, a complete phony. All of these professional Catholic school boys give Episcopalians like me a pain. Getting slapped around by Sister Mary Ignatius doesn't make you an expert on the human condition.

May 29, 2008 10:30 PM

psantillana said:

I do not agree with Matthews on many a thing. Possibly including his philosophy of life - I nodded assent to Jon Stewart's verdict that Chris' self-help book was a self-hurt book, a recipe for sadness. But I, too, love him. He reminds me of my cat, Buddy. Buddy's agenda is always crystal clear, his enthusiasm for life unbounded, and while he does things that make me wince, I am also in awe. I feel exactly what Noam is saying.

May 30, 2008 12:59 AM

ironyroad said:

"Getting slapped around by Sister Mary Ignatius doesn't make you an expert on the human condition."

No, not an expert.  But it gets you closer to it.

May 30, 2008 2:16 AM

Wandreycer1 said:

Hurt me Sister Mary!

May 30, 2008 9:21 AM

mbt62 said:

Chris Matthews, Bill O'Reilly? No wonder I watch Sports Center.

May 30, 2008 9:45 AM

vverma said:

Olberman is the only one I like; Matthews and Russert are blowhards

May 30, 2008 9:50 AM

mbt62 said:

Exactly, he came from ESPN.

May 30, 2008 10:11 AM

The Stump said:

Here's a link to that Matthews piece I mentioned yesterday--the superheroes at TNR Online just unearthed

May 30, 2008 11:24 AM