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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
16.05.2008
The Obama Response to Bush

I thought it was generally shrewd and well-executed. It's important in these situations not to whine at length about the cheap shot you've taken, but to swing back aggressively. Obama pretty much did that. He noted the egregiousness of Bush's breach of protocol, and McCain's hypocrisy in embracing the Knesset attack after all his civility-speak. But he pivoted pretty quickly to the greatest hits of Bush's foreign policy failures, which don't exactly evoke thoughts of safety and security.  

Obama also seized the opportunity to tie McCain to Bush, which may be the biggest problem these periodic flare-ups pose for McCain. And he sounded pretty forceful--there wasn't a thing about his presentation that evoked Dukakis. My only gripe is that he was a little halting in spots and stepped on some choice lines as a result. But I doubt it'll take him long to get fluent with this new, more detailed foreign-policy indictment.

On a slightly more substantive note, I thought it was interesting that Obama hit Bush for the elections that brought Hamas to power. He's clearly right on this--it was the height of stupidity to hold elections in a place that's neither liberal nor democratic and to expect them to magically produce a liberal democracy. It's still boggles the mind that the administration didn't anticipate the Hamas victory.

Politically, this tack has the virtue of making Bush look like the Hamas-appeaser and getting Obama slightly to his right. The only complication is that, rhetorically, it's slightly awkward to come out against elections. But, again, I think that's something Obama will smooth out over time.

Update: Ben Smith has McCain's reaction.

Update II: Video below.

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:28 PM with 15 comment(s)

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liberal reformer said:

Barack Obama's response was better than I thought that it might have been, Noam.  I just wonder how he will handle the pounding that he is going to get on a sustained basis.

May 16, 2008 1:45 PM

GSpinks said:

Not to thumb my nose at the doubters, but I did use the words "bare knuckle". He tied Bush and McCain together seamlessly, and proceeded to pummel them like a punching bag.

www.youtube.com/watch

And all without getting nasty, or hyperbole, or scurrilous insinuations. So far, so good, IMNSHO.

May 16, 2008 1:50 PM

WoodyBombay said:

I'm not sure where the hand-wringing over Obama's ability to fight back is coming from, at least in this instance. Yesterday the campaign immediately responded with a sharp jab and follow up today with this pummeling. A fair judge would give the round to Obama. (To pound the boxing metaphor to death.)

May 16, 2008 2:12 PM

icarusr said:

"I'm not sure where the hand-wringing over Obama's ability to fight back is coming fromI'm not sure where the hand-wringing over Obama's ability to fight back is coming from."

Woody: by people who think that fighting a tough fight means lying and cheating and race-baiting and screaming "shame on you" like a schoomarm - by people who have swollen Maureen Down's "Obambi" shtick - by people who have no idea, none whatever, where Obama get's his drive from - by people who manage to juxtapose two contradictory views (Obama as dirty Chicago politics operative, Obama as effete latte liberal) of the man in their crania.

In short, by people who are driven more by the reflexive "let me at 'em" approach to politics of Foghorn Leghorn's nephew, and who have forgotten that this election cycle is really, really, different from others.

Um, just ask Hillary.

May 16, 2008 2:37 PM

icarusr said:

LR: "But it's not going to work. Not this time, not this year."

May 16, 2008 2:38 PM

GSpinks said:

McCain's reaction is a little dull; the initial hyperbole steals the weight from the rest of that statement.

Then again, maybe they were trying to conceal the reality of their statement with hyperbole...

"Senator Obama has pledged to unconditionally meet with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- who [is a bad person who rattles his sabres and calls names]. What would Senator Obama talk about with such a man?"

Obama could challenge Mr AtDinnerJacket to a pissing contest, or compare the sizes of their ICBMs, for starters. Seriously though, this just brings two words to mind: Cold War. I seem to recall something about talks between Ronny and Gorbi, maybe my mind is just playing tricks on me.

Anyway, I have a feeling there is going to be more punches coming out of BO corner in round 2.

May 16, 2008 3:10 PM

The Plank said:

While it was a bit choppy , I'd have to say Obama's speech today was an epochal stride towards

May 16, 2008 3:28 PM

Gavriel Meir-Levi said:

Obama's performance was wonderful and this is indeed the right approach, but this is just the beginning and while the Obama team handled the issues beautifully, Bush's remark may have been just the "Shot Across The Hull" indicating the start of a full-fledged battle.

The challenge is if this becomes the dominant narrative of the election then get ready for the Republican Swift Boaters for a Strong Israel to attack in full force.  That will be a difficult counter-narrative to derail.  

May 16, 2008 5:34 PM

kevincollins said:

Something for your proofreader to take notice of:

"It's still boggles the mind that the administration didn't anticipate the Hamas victory."

"It's" should be "It"

May 16, 2008 6:43 PM

gennitydo said:

It boggles the mind that the administration didn't anticipate the Hamas victory?  Does it really?  The same administration that thought our troops would be showered with flowers when they entered Baghdad?

It just shows that the very best campaign asset for the Dems is the one sitting in the White House.  Gotta love the fact that the Saudis gave him the bird on upping production too.

We can only hope he is front and center often in the next 6 months.

May 16, 2008 11:36 PM

strabka said:

It's a little choppy because he's having to refer to his notes, lots of points to make.  The point that the Iraq war has strengthened Iran's position is a good one to keep getting out there.

I like the way he got off his high horse as he ended, the bit about having to get this "off my chest, guys".  It sounded genuine and connected to the audience as teammates, and showed that his righteous anger didn't upset his equilibrium, or make him take himself too seriously. Nothing effete or elitist about his rapport with this group that looked like they just might be members of the white working class.

May 17, 2008 12:09 AM

ironyroad said:

I think it's more than possible that people will get to really like the way he occasionally pauses to check notes, to reformulate a thought, to make sure that what he wants to say makes coherent sense at least.

A change we could do with.

May 17, 2008 12:25 AM

fwslusser said:

The line about Bush and McCain demanding democratic elections does seem out of place. The crowd didn't appear to understood the problem.  A lot more explanation would be needed to tell why this was wrong, and the speech would have been stronger if he just didn't include that line, even if it's true.

May 17, 2008 2:30 AM

lesserliz said:

This guy is no Dukakis in a tank and he is no Kerry taking two weeks to respond to swiftboating. I just hope to God that after his election he will not pull a Nixon and expand the war and spend more years and thousands more American lives getting out like Nixon did-only when forced by a virtual revolution at home and among the troops. Call me a pessimist but deep down I find no difference between the two major parties.

May 17, 2008 8:39 AM

ramboorider said:

Regarding Obama's ability to handle a sustained GE pounding, I think he'll do better than he did in the primaries, where he seems to have done pretty well overall. If the Republicans come up with something really substantive on his character - ie, something HE DID as opposed to some loose associations, it could be a problem. But for the most part, he can hit back against almost anything with substance on issues, which almost all favor him over McCain. He didn't have that rather ENORMOUS arrow in his quiver against Hillary. It was all character stuff, most of it pretty worthless, and he couldn't really attack her on that (what with being black and all - anyone notice he's black?). The only substantive stuff he could go after her on were the war, the minor difference over healthcare, and, finally, the gas tax holiday. He shot his wad pretty early on the war, the health care difference was pretty small, and the gas tax was a remarkable gift that Hillary laid at his feet when he needed it most - another horrible mis-calculation on her part that gave him the chance to get back on substance and refocus the attack on her on both substance and character (pandering and whatnot).

Against McCain, there are big substantive differences almost everywhere. This is a huge advantage to Obama. If he gets hit on the issues, he hits back just as hard. If he gets hit on Wright or Ayers, he hits back hard on the issues, reminding voters that the Republicans are only bringing this crap up because they can't win on substance. And his ads ought to pound away on McCain's flip flops on everything from Hamas to tax cuts to Iraq and HIS associations with the likes of Hagee, Falwell, etc. I'd have let the 527s handle that, but Obama clearly is shutting them down and wants to handle the whole message internally. And he appears to be a much stronger and more skilled candidate than either Gore or Kerry. And with much stronger fundamentals in his favor.

I personally think taking on the Clintons in a primary fight in which there were very few substantive differences was a MUCH bigger lift than the general election should be. I've been wrong about this type of stuff pretty often, but even if I'm the proverbial stopped clock, this should be one of the two times a day I'm right. The biggest challenge is his race, and its time to find out just how deep of a problem that still is in America. 20 years ago a black man couldn't have been elected. In another 20 it will be damn close to a non-issue. Right now, I'm not sure. It could go either way, but he's earned the right to find out.

May 17, 2008 9:16 AM