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TODAY'S STORIES
13.05.2008
WV Is Bill Country

Among other things, Hillary benefited tonight from an affinity West Virginia seems to have for Bill Clinton. Thirty-seven percent of WV voters say that Bill Clinton's campaigning was "very important" to them, and 84 percent of them voted for Hillary.

That said, the results so far suggest Bill probably shouldn't have talked about winning 80 percent of the vote. 

--Michael Crowley

Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:33 PM with 4 comment(s)

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vanwurs said:

Hillary and Bill Clinton turned West Virginia, which admittedly was already primed, in a perfect storm of Know Nothingism.  I know hilbillies, I come from Kentucky hill people.  They have all the cultural and racial attitudes of Southerners without the leavening effect of black people.

May 14, 2008 12:05 AM

liberal reformer said:

Vanwurs: Boy, we are getting a lot of the Democratic equivalent of country club Republicans tonight on these threads. If these voters were going to Obama, I bet that most of the Obamamaniacs at this site would be praising these "simple folk". Prejudice cuts both ways, people.

May 14, 2008 1:57 AM

vanwurs said:

liberal reformer,

Did you listen to these people as they were interviewed at Clinton rallies and outside the polls yesterday?  They exemplified every stereotype of a racist, close minded, nativist know nothing I've ever heard of.  The Clintons have been cultivating this vote since Ohio and Texas with every tribal and cultural and racial dog whistle ( and worse..."hard working americans, white americans..") in that deep bag of tricks our political history has given them.  West Virginia and Kentucky are the only two states where Barack does not get the under-thirty demographic.  That's how deeply anti-Obama (and this was a cultivated anti-Obama vote) these places are.  We are barely a generation removed from lynchings in this country, and there is a latent sentiment, particularly strong in some places (and I would put appalacia in that catagory for the reasons I suggested above...) that can be tapped and used if a politician is unscrupulous enough and heedless enough of the consequenses to do so.  Hillary and Bill are those very politictians.  Anything that works to get them past this election.  They are becoming increasingly vile and the campaign they are running, and the political sentiments they are provoking, encouraging and exploiting, is worse then vile.  It is dangerous.  We still lynch folks in this country.  The last time a politician (George Wallace) went around the country, massaging those particular nerves, Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy were killed.  They are playing with fire for the most selfish short term gain.

May 14, 2008 9:02 AM

The Plank said:

First, there was West Virginia. Michael Crowley parsed Hillary's thinking going into the primary

May 16, 2008 8:01 PM