Somebody please leak some stories about Bill cheating so we can be rid of these clowns.... Please....

Of course she is indispensable: who else would constantly challenge the rules, move the goal-posts, thrown Kitchen sink at the leading candidate, make stupid populist comments - all to "test" and "vet" the front-runner and "prepre him" for the Republican attack dogs?  I think we should keep Hillary running even after the Convention, as a sort of vaccination against Republicans.

Ach.

The Terminator never goes away.

Here's hoping this one works as well as the "inevitability" argument!

I can't see Obama picking Hillary. The spirit of party unity might dictate that but ticket balancing sure doesn't. Is this country ready for both a woman and an (half) African - American on the same slate? I would like to think so but I just don't know.

Why would Obama pick Bill mk 2 when he himself wants to be Bill mk 2 and JFK mk 2 rolled into one?

It's over now, right?

About as indispensable as Ralph Nader.  

Oregon, Oregon, Oregon. That is a state too. Hillary didn't even mention it, typical. If it doesn't look like she can win it, it doesn't exist, but you can be damn sure the people there noticed. Oregon has the more delegates than Kentucky, 65 to 60. And of the remaining contests has the most of all. P.R. has 63. Yet Hillary, and TNR pretend it doesn't exist. What kind of proof is it if Obama wins bigger in Oregon than she does in Kentucky?

Unity ticket?!? A four-star fantasy. Would you want Hillary and Bill in your corner in a rough fight?

"Is this country ready for both a woman and an (half) African - American on the same slate?"

According to Carville and others, Hillary has "cajones" and "testicular fortitude". So it may be a half-black half she-man ticket, which would really break barriers.

virginiacentrist,  according carville, Obama is missing his "cojones", so I guess that would make the ticket half-black, but all she-man.

On a more serious note, I'm not sure that beating Obama in Kentucky and West Virginia would show indispensability.  Instead, she should concede, and endorse him.  If that gives Obama the 30 point bounce needed for him to win Kentucky and West Virginia that might be evidence for indispensability.  Otherwise, it's just evidence that people in Kentucky and West Virginia don't like Obama.

tep, if you stop by this thread, here's my ticket (and my hope): Obama/Biden.

What say ye?

p.s. Lawrence O'Donnell was on MSNBC sometime in the wee hours, with this tidbit; there will be a unity ticket, the Veep all but decided. And s(he) is, tah dah...

Wesley Clark

(Do I hear a sucking sound?)

One possible rationale for her apparently insane, protracted run.  Already a large number of Clinton supporters have declared that they will not vote for Obama. She knows that the longer she runs, the more she fires up her base with resentment, the more likely this risks becoming a reality. So that's her plan: to blackmail him into making some major concession (the VP spot, perhaps?) by using the anger of her supporters as leverage.

Hillary is still running because she still believes she can win and should win  You don't come as far as she has without absolute blind faith.

As for VP candidate, it has to be an established pubic figure with strength in military matters.  Wesley Clark is probably the best -- and a bow to the Hillary people.

Petebeck - Wesley Clark is an American hero - and also the worlds lousiest candidate ever.  It would be hard to find someone more ill at ease on the stump and more excruciating to watch.

Obama does not need to bow to anything to do with Hillary.  He's the front runner and has been for months.  

If Hillary people really don't want to vote for Obama, if they really just cannot handle it all - and think their egos are more important than denying a third Bush term, then they shouldn't and good riddance.  

There will be a line around the block of Republicans and independents ready and willing to vote for him, just as there always has been.  

"it's just evidence that people in Kentucky and West Virginia don't like Obama" - Come on, just say it out loud.  These states are two of those pockets of red-neck whiteness that wouldn't vote for JC himself if he were brown.  There's enough African-Americans there to make it interesting, and keep Billery from scoring anything but a percentage of the delegates.  It's over.

Hillary is becoming a sideshow.

Hillary Clinton - Our next Jeremiah Wright.

Are all those angry Hillary supporters really going to jump ship to vote for a guy who's promising a Supreme Court judge committed to reversing Roe v Wade?

Hillary has every reason to stay in the race, other than pissing off TNR readers - oh, hell, that's a good reason, too. She has technically, practically and virtually lost to Obama, but not absolutely, not yet. Given her role as the fighter underdog, what would it say about her if she pleads "no mas" sitting on her stool. She's a champion and needs to act like one. Imagine how her supporters would feel.? Totally utterly let down and abandoned.

Besides, putting up the good fight will make Obama's imminent victory much more satisfying. And Republicans won't jeer 'cut and run" from the bleachers. How embarrassing that would be for all concerned.

Ditto Wandreycer1, wonderfully put.

"Indispensable."

If Hillary Clinton didn't exist, we would have had to invent her.

The sheep like braying of Obama supporters is music to the ears of McCain who knows that the ignorant half of the democratic party will be mincemeat in the fall. The absolute lack of historical knowledge, the adolescent hostility against the Clintons and those who support them is embarrassing while the ability to hear what one wants to despite the words actually used, so reminiscent of conservatives, only demonstrates how thoroughly the years of dumbing down have worked.

Hint: whatever the line pushed by the majority of the SCLM (so-called liberal media), including TNR, is invariably the opposite of the truth. Think back to the massive media support for the Iraq War and Matthews and his ilk frothing with delight at Bush's mission accomplished PR event, the 2000 meme about Bush the compassionate conservative and Washington outsider who would get rid of bi-partisan politics because he was so decent, down-to-earth and likeable, as admirable as that straight-talking maverick John McCain and so much cooler than that uptight, boring geek Al Bore...get it?

Oh yeah and my favorite Obama oxymoron - "I play clean, she's just mean."

A better theory (if I thought she was actually capable of this) is that everyone inlcuding Obama knows that she'll win easily in WV.  He probably will only do token campaigning.  Then OR and KY will be a split with him probably making up any loss in WV.  Since Hillary's not favored in MN and SD, she can go out after a couple of wins and a bigger state win by Barack.  The remaining contests in June will be seen as playing out the string, she wins in PR, and he finishes with wins in MN and SD.

It's a way for her to bow out graciously (if that's possible), while he comes out a winner on the final day.

I expect the superdelagates to pick up for Obama after OR, when there's nothing left Clinton.

Plus one minus one = zero.

Instead of being more than the sum of their parts, combining them on a ticket may well negate the not very reciprochal attractions or each.

If Obama were smart, he'd pick a white woman with no negatives and lots of actual experience:  Diane Feinstein.

If Hillary can raise the money, let her keep running.  (She can always use her own if she wants it that badly.)

What do you guys care?  She'll either lose fair and square and unequivocally (no stabbed in the back theory).  Or, she'll pull off a miraculous win when some other Far Lefty bud of Obama leaps out of the closet.

By the way, a story out today has major movie crowd backer, Harvey Weinstein wanting to put up the money for re-votes in MI and FL.

That's likely to be the next focus of contention.

Top entertainment clear through August!

No.  HRC is  loser.  She would bring Barack down, not up!

Barack is a winner and can find another, more compatible, winner for his Veep.

DanNYC is a winner and James Lee Clark is a loser.