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30.04.2008
They're Not Dead Yet!

I know it seems abundantly obvious to anyone who doesn't live on Jupiter that the long primary and the Wrightmare are damaging the Democrats, but it's worth noting that Rasmussen's general election presidential tracker has seen both Obama and Hillary move up with respect to McCain over the last week, and McCain's support vis-a-vis both of them yesterday was the lowest it's been since mid-March.

--Eve Fairbanks

Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:11 AM with 6 comment(s)

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virginiacentrist said:

McCain's a joke. When the Iraq war blows up (mandatory god forbid inserted) and the economy continues to tank, he'll lose on every single issue. Sure, the GOP will get milleage out of cultural silliness (Wright, Ayers, etc), but they'll still have a brand ID problem, a change problem, and a crazy old man on their ticket.

The visual contrast between Obama and McCain is going to be GOLDEN. Mark my words.

April 30, 2008 11:33 AM

lriungu said:

What if Jeremiah Wright just saved Obama's campaign? By acting crazy on national TV, he would remove any doubts that Obama and he share the same ideology. Gives Barack the best opportunity to make a credible clean break!

April 30, 2008 11:45 AM

Rhubarbs said:

If Hillary's only hope to overturn the will of Democratic voters and take the nomination was to attack Obama so hard that he became unelectable, doesn't this (along with other polls with similar results) demonstrate that Hillary has failed? And if that was her last hope to win the nomination, what's next for her?

April 30, 2008 12:46 PM

Tammy said:

Rhubarbs.  How can you claim that Hillary has overturned the will of the voters?  By all scorecards, she has about 50% of the popular vote.  Obama has 1% more votes than her?  This may change with the upcoming contests-- see April 28 Survey USA polls in NC and IN.  I find this claim of yours ridiculous.  

But TNR is correct that the good news for the Dems iss that both are doing better against McSame.  Actually, Hillary does a tad better than Obama.

What is next for her, if she doesn't get the nomination, is finishing her term in the Senate- something she has been clear about all along.  She likes that job and does it well.  And she'll campaign for Obama.  I'm sure of that.

April 30, 2008 12:53 PM

roidubouloi said:

tammy,

With all due respect, I take it you are in Delaware.  As a local Democratic party leader in New York, I have yet to figure out anything what Hillary Clinton has done in the senate other than primp for president.  I don't know whether she likes her job, but to say she does it well is rather odd.  That's just the Hillarista talking pint.  I'm not clear that she does it at all.  What I do know is that she doesn't do the part of the job that consists of helping local Democrats succeed in electing Democrats to local office.

April 30, 2008 2:11 PM

Tammy said:

Roid.  Well that position of yours gives you unique insights.  I, on the other hand, just review the policies and senate votes, other actions.  And there is all the reading and volunteering I do as well.  Perhaps that explains the difference in our perspectives.  I trust you don't mean to imply that somehow you know better than me about things.  

But even using your own standard, wouldn't you agree that Obama is somewhat guilty of the same?  Hasn't he been primping for the Oval office since he arrived in the senate?  In fact, seems he's been preparing for it most of his life.  

Is there anything wrong with both of them doing that?  The question seems tricky given everything that political campaigns require these days.  Truth be told, Roid, sometimes it is useful for people to step outside of their worlds and see things from other people's perspectives.  In  my line of work, we call this "taking the role of the other."  Since the TNR blogs are filled with Obama supporters, I think it's useful to consider how the other side (Hillary's 49.1% of the vote) sees things.  We don't see her the way you do.  I've never read anything nice about her in your prose, not even anything respectful.  

If we ever meet at a Starbucks, I'l tell you stories about Sir Obama from my volunteer experiences.  And I'll listen to yours as well.  Maybe you'll convince me she's the devil you say she is.  In the mean time, I shall vote for Obama and campaign hard on his behalf if he gets the nomination.   I have heard Hillary say the same and I TRUST that.  Call me "stupid" but there you have it.

April 30, 2008 2:50 PM