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31.03.2008
What Hillary's Thinking

In this video clip from Fox, Time's Mark Halperin argues that Hillary Clinton honestly believes Obama can't be elected, in part for "sensitive" reasons she can't explicitly state--which I take to mean race--and that she is duty bound to "stop" him from getting the nomination. Halperin says this view is based on his conversations with Hillary and her advisors. 

Not a shocking theory but a more direct articulation than I'd heard previously. 

 

[Via TPM

--Michael Crowley 

Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:19 PM with 19 comment(s)

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kerouac9 said:

Mick--the clip is pretty obviously from FOX.

March 31, 2008 5:01 PM

jhildner said:

That's really rich.  She's the savior of the party, is she?  Well, I *believe* that she can't get elected for the "sensitive" reason that people hate her guts.

March 31, 2008 5:05 PM

alexharris said:

Why did Halperin takeHillary's statements "that this is what she truly believes" at face value?  Sure that is what she said she believes -- but that doesn't mean she actually believes it.  Just that she hopes to make the party believe it.

Furthermore, I think Hillary may be counting on the "Limbaugh brigades" to help fulfill her "prediction" of Obama's loss of white voters.  The significant spikes in Democratic primary vote registrations in the upcoming states are becoming very scary -- less a portent of big general election turnout for the Dems, than an indication of Republican trickery.  Potential repeats of TX and OH, where white Republicans, who fully intend to vote against her in the general election, made up Hillary's margins of victory.  We already see her collaborating with major figures of the "VRWC" to advance her primary agenda and destroy Obama.  If she crushes Obama in PA, IN, etc., the exit polls may not show the fraud, since, after OH, the faux-dems will likely lie to the exit pollers as well.

March 31, 2008 5:26 PM

Rhubarbs said:

kerouac9 -- but Hillary shill Ed Rendell called Fox the "fairest" and "most objective" cable news network. Doesn't the Hillary campaign's endorsement of Fox mean we have to take that network's reporting on her seriously? If a Fox correspondent says that Fox-friend Hillary and her advisers told him either that they are bigots, or that they believe the American people are bigots, why should we doubt his reporting?

March 31, 2008 5:27 PM

tomeg said:

Wow, how thoughtful and conscientious of her. Just the kind of narcissistic self-serving BS that confirms why as many people dislike her enough that they'd vote for McCain rather than suffer 4 years of her.

March 31, 2008 5:53 PM

tomeg said:

Mike, I appreciate that you remain as skeptical as befits a good journalist and resist the pull of the yay-sayers at TNR (among which I count myself).

March 31, 2008 5:57 PM

blackton said:

I would take her at her word if she then turned around and endorsed Al Gore instead acknowledging that she herself is unelectable (for her to claim she, as the partisan Democrat, who is not even able to win the Democratic parties nomination is more electable borders on just crazy).

Hillary's new campaign slogan, "sometimes coming in second is better than first." But something tells me if she is the second choice among Democrats, than she will certainly be second choice among all voters.

March 31, 2008 6:18 PM

roidubouloi said:

Take note that the Fox opinion polls consistently make Hillary look better relative to Obama than the rest of the polls.

This is called "fair and balance polling."  

Their bias is obvious if you just watch the relative positions of the polls for a while.  Hillary is happy to play Bush to try and change her fate.  She was never really a Democrat.

March 31, 2008 6:57 PM

The Ignorant Populist said:

She's bang out of order with that racist stuff now. "Too sensitive"! She's trying to stoke it. Maybe there is something to Chait's and Sullivan's argument.

Just drop out and lead the Senate. God, is that not enough power?

March 31, 2008 7:06 PM

Rhubarbs said:

"Hillary's new campaign slogan, 'sometimes coming in second is better than first.'"

That's good. Change it just a bit to, "Not Winning Is the Real Victory" and we have the inevitable end-state of our Iraq adventure. Perhaps Hillary really is in touch with the American mood after all with her strategy of losing her way to the nomination.

March 31, 2008 7:08 PM

Hungarian Great Bela Tarr said:

Although it's no longer surprising, it's still upsetting when one of the Clintons' boils pops and more of their racism comes hissing and gurgling out of the open wound.

"We should not nominate a black man because a black man cannot win the general election." Anybody -- even a Hillary supporter -- should be able to see this for what it is: a cowardly expression of racism. And it carries the usual stink of paternalism: it will be better for the negroes, too, if they just pipe down and stay in their place.

God, how I hate this woman and the rotten ideas she stands for.

March 31, 2008 7:41 PM

ironyroad said:

Kennedy's narrow defeat in 1960 proved beyond doubt that people wouldn't vote for a Catholic.  One should take note of that.  History is full of lessons.

Daley's garbage trucks notwithstanding.

March 31, 2008 8:25 PM

matthawk said:

When Hillary first entered this campaign she ran as a potential president, but ever since Super Tuesday she has been running to become the first woman president. She cries victimization at every turn and throws temper tantrums on the campaign trail. Obama, on the other hand, is not running to become the first African American president, although Hillary surrogates, like Ferraro, don't miss an opportunity to remind us that Obama is Black.

The Hillary campaign is Baby Boomer politics pure and simple -- it is grounded in the politics of identity and it wallows in self-pity. That type of campaign will not win against McCain in November. Democrats need the new breed of positive and progressive politics that Obama offers.

March 31, 2008 9:22 PM

WoodyBombay said:

I just watched the Seattle Mariners win the first game of what will be a World Series championship season (you read it here first!) and someone had a banner on the upper deck that said "Yes We Can!"

Look for a HRC-inspired banner at the next game: "Caucuses Are Unfair And Small States Don't Count!"

March 31, 2008 10:10 PM

psantillana said:

I don't think she believes Obama is unelectable, I think she just hopes other people believe it. I also don't think she's a racist, but she hopes other people are. Somehow, that's worse.

April 1, 2008 4:14 AM

arsonplus said:

Uuhhmmm ... why does anyone take Haleprin seriously on this subject, His book kind of lays out a case for an obvious pro Clinton Bias.

Gotta agree with meg and psan on this one.

April 1, 2008 10:55 AM

matthawk said:

The more I observe all of this, the clearer it becomes that Hillary is using a fascinating combination of swinging from both the left and the right.

Her left-wing strategy is based on the quintessentially Baby Boomer ethos of “entitlement.” She’s playing a heavy “gender card” and wants to be seen as being a victim of the “boy’s club,” which she claims is trying to force her from the race and is giving her unfair press coverage. In some ways this may appear to be 60’s style leftist politics, as it is based on the politics of identity.

But then there is the reactionary side of her campaign. She not-so-subtlety appeals to white workingclass resentment of blacks who are moving ahead (must be “affirmative action” don’t you know) and suspicions of “them there foreigners” with “funny sounding” last names.

The only commonality between these two strategies, designed to appeal to the political left and the political right, is that they are both based on resentment.

In contrast, Obama continues to run a positive campaign based on healing social wounds and bringing people together for a higher purpose. The contrast between the emotions that drive the two campaigns couldn’t be more striking.

April 1, 2008 1:57 PM

boxofrox said:

matthawk.

Clintons are divide and conquer people. That's what they do. As you have noted they also position themselves politically as to be able to appear as if they are in sympathy with whatever happens to be most advantageous at the time. Not exactly a profile in courage. They both read from the same play book. They  are in deed and fact a two-fer. I would be fine if they just went away.

April 1, 2008 2:35 PM

matthawk said:

Memo to Hillary Clinton: You of all people should know better than to run a campaign based on denying a people's hopes and dreams. The Clinton machine's strategy with the super delegates, which appears to be to suggest that Obama's "race" makes him unelectable, only serves as a provocation to those who are now determined to prove the Clintons wrong. And now, even if Hillary were to get the nomination, it is questionable as to whether or not the bad taste in the mouth will linger into the fall as potential supporters remember the Clintons' springtime message to African Americans: "You are not quite ready for prime time yet."

Clinton's behind-the-scenes suggestions that Obama's "race" makes him unelectable increases the likelihood that those who interpreted Bill Clinton's New Hampshire comment "Gimme a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've every seen," really had more to do with the idea of an African American making a successful run for the presidency than it did about Obama's withdrawal strategy for Iraq were actually on-the-money.

A Clinton nomination by the super delegates prior to this summer's convention could well mean that a lot of people will stay home in November and allow McCain to walk away with the election.

April 5, 2008 4:22 AM

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