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TODAY'S STORIES
18.02.2008
Does Any Candidate Not Plagiarize?

Mike and I spent the last half-hour on dueling Clinton-Obama conference calls, and the charge that Obama had plagiarized Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick came up on both of them. (See this Ben Smith item for the YouTube footage--it's their response to the complaint that they're all rhetoric, no substance.) Both Obama and Patrick point out that they're good friends who share a lot of ideas. I suspect that's sort of right--but that the more precise connection is David Axelrod, who had a hand in polishing both men's words.

Anyway, I find it a little strange that the Clinton campaign would be pushing this allegation. As I noted back in November, you can't listen to a Clinton speech without hearing multiple riffs she's filched from other candidates. Here is my list from back then; I suspect there've been more examples since:

She talked about goals "I hope will bring our country together," a la Barack Obama.

In response to a question about excessive partisanship, she talked about how she's not running to be president of the states that voted for Democrats, she's running to be president of the United States. This closely resembles Obama's "I don’t want to pit red America against blue America. I want to be the President of the United States of America."

She said she didn't want to be part of the first generation of Americans that didn't leave the country better off than when they inherited it, which recalls John Edwards's line about how we don't want to be the first generation of Americans whose children do worse in life than they did.

She talked about how, if video stores can keep track of their tapes and DVDs, surely we can keep track of people here on visas, many of whom overstay them and become illegal immigrants. I've heard Edwards make the same point, except he explicitly cites Blockbuster.

She argued that our young men and women in Iraq are doing everything we ask of them; it's the Bush administration and the Iraqi government who are letting them down. Edwards has argued that our soldiers have done everything we've asked of them; it's our government that's letting them down.

Finally, she made the point that opposing comprehensive immigration reform is tantamount to supporting amnesty, because it allows the present situation to continue. I've heard John McCain make the same point. (At least I think it was him--it's possible that it was some other non-Hillary candidate.)  

I'm tempted to say something about the danger of throwing stones from inside a glass house. But, as Demetri Martin reminds us, you actually should throw stones if you're trapped in a glass house. This may or may not be relevant here...

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:52 AM with 12 comment(s)

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The Stump said:

One more thing about that conference call I was just on : I could be mis-reading Obama campaign manager

February 18, 2008 12:17 PM

stgla said:

People who live in glass houses should get dressed in the basement.

February 18, 2008 12:17 PM

jdguida said:

The least original candidate in the field? Hillary. Not even close.

Most obviously: "Yes, we will!"

Oh, I get it. She changed "can" for the more "forceful" verb, "will." That little bit of magic must be part of her command of detail on all the issues of the day -- including grammar.

February 18, 2008 12:24 PM

jmkerr said:

Oh, please. The issue isn't plagiarism so much as it is the Obama "magic" is generated entirely by campaign managers and speechwriters regenerating old material they used in a similar campaign.

After all, no one thinks Obama stole the material. They know his speechwriters are recycling.That's much worse,because it makes him a puppet.

But nice flail, anyway.

February 18, 2008 12:35 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

They reek of desperation on this one - hoping any negative goop will stick.  Sad.

February 18, 2008 12:43 PM

The Plank said:

Mike and Noam have already done a great job explaining the ridiculousness of the Clinton campaign's

February 18, 2008 12:48 PM

Rhubarbs said:

Actually, that thing about being the first generation to leave their children worse off goes back to Dukakis '88. One of his central campaign themes, and something he hit in all of his big speeches -- and that Hillary has repeated in close enough terms that it would be plagiarism if this were a college course and not politics.

February 18, 2008 1:08 PM

The Plank said:

One more addition to the discussion of the glass-house-troubles Hillary Clinton could be running into

February 18, 2008 1:36 PM

skipper2379 said:

I'll begin to care once we expect our presidential candidates to produce original scholarship. Politicians are hacks. Sometimes they're sophisticated hacks who more or less maintain their dignity while trying to win over the public (aka, the mob, if one cares to be pejorative); Obama has done this, to my eye. Sometimes they're transparent hacks who reduce the essence of their personhood to the most digestible dollop of bland middlebrow sludge; Clinton is good at this. But they're both hacks. What matters is their ability to synthesize the best of other people's ideas and arguments in a manner that makes them good hacks, i.e. hacks who make what they advocate more popular.

February 18, 2008 2:33 PM

Ghost in the Machine said:

Sigh...The Clinton campaign tries to accuse Sen. Obama of plagiarism for echoing remarks by friend and Obama supporter Gov. Deval...

February 18, 2008 3:44 PM

The Plank said:

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February 19, 2008 11:28 AM

Ghost in the Machine said:

In case you missed it, debate No. 19, held in Austin, TX, came and went this evening. (Transcript.) My...

February 22, 2008 12:07 AM

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