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23.12.2007
Obama Moving Up in New Hampshire

The Democratic half of that Globe poll I just mentioned shows Obama pulling ahead in New Hampshire--he edges Hillary 30 to 28. (He's up nine points and she's down seven since early November.) Two things jump out at me in the Globe's write-up. First, I suggested in my recent Obama piece that he could hold his own with blue-collar voters. The Globe finds evidence of this, too:

One of the major shifts in the Democratic race came in New Hampshire's biggest city, Manchester, which is home to many blue-collar voters. Last month, Clinton led Obama in the Manchester area by a wide margin, 50 percent to 18 percent. But in the new poll, Obama was narrowly ahead among Manchester voters, leading Clinton 33 percent to 31 percent.

The second thing that's interesting is the way the mandate/no mandate debate is playing out in New Hampshire. Reports the Globe:

One aspect of the healthcare debate that has divided Democratic candidates is whether individuals should be required to purchase coverage - Clinton and Edwards favor a mandate, while Obama does not. A slight majority of Democratic voters who were polled - including pluralities of Clinton and Edwards supporters - opposed such a requirement. 

I wondered a few weeks ago why the Clinton campaign was going negative on Obama's character instead of hitting the healthcare issue, which seemed less fraught and likely to pay dividends on both a policy level and a preparedness level. This poll hints at an explanation: Maybe it just wasn't very effective.

P.S. I don't have much to add to what others have said, but you really should read this excellent Mark Schmitt piece about Obama and his "theory of change."

Update: Mark Blumenthal examined the crosstabs and made this fascinating discovery:

Opposition to the notion of an individual health insurance mandate -- "should individuals be required to buy health insurance" -- is greatest among the less well-educated and downscale voters that are the core of Clinton's base in New Hampshire and elsewhere.

Whenever he gets asked about the mandate, Obama says the reason people don't buy health insurance isn't because they don't want it, but because they can't afford it. Whatever the policy merits of this claim--and I'm sympathetic to some of the criticism--it does look like it resonates with working-class people, who may worry about being forced to buy something they can't afford (or being fined if they don't buy it). 

I think it's hard to overstate the importance of this. Healthcare is, if not the most important issue of the campaign, then arguably most important issue on which the candidates have real differences. And, as Mark says, working class people are supposed to be Hillary's base. If Hillary's base prefers Obama's solution to what they see as their biggest problem... well, you get the idea.

Second Update: John Judis points out another interesting finding in the crosstabs: Obama went from down 43-21 in the $60,000-$74,000 per year income category to up 38-21. This seems a little too dramatic to be believed--I suspect the smallish sample size had something to do with it--but, even if there's only a kernel of truth to it, it's still pretty amazing. 

Also, Obama went from down 43-21 among voters with "some college" (people most pollsters consider working class) to down only 28-26. That's a pretty interesting development if true, too.

--Noam Scheiber

Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:09 AM with 6 comment(s)

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jhildner said:

The big issue that's not being dealt with sufficiently in the Manbate is that Obama's plan calls for automatic enrollment through your employer.  In other words, for many without health insurance -- the working poor or even working middle class -- the deafult rule will be coverage, which the individual would have to go to the trouble to opt out of.  The default rule usually makes a big difference when it comes to these kinds of things.  I haven't seen an honest or thorough discussion of how much difference it would make in this case among critics of the Obama approach.  Meanwhile, of course, mandatory coverage would still leave many without insurance -- making it mandatory doesn't magically lead to 100% coverage.  It just subjects those who opt out to some type of penalty which, unlike with kids where school provides an infrastructure, could only be enforced on a sporadic basis.  My hunch is that Obama actually does view his approach not only as politically palatable -- because it totally undercuts the fear of the government forcing something on you, which *will* be an issue in the general -- but also as preferable from a fairness perspective -- so long as it achieves the goals he and Krugamn and everyone want.  Obama has indicated that his fidelity to the goal is paramount.

December 24, 2007 4:02 PM

blackton said:

While I don't think anyone has a right not to have insurance given the fact that no hospital will turn away a gravely injured or sick person, essentially relying on gaming the system. I am still mystified by the whole Edwards/Clinton idea of mandates. Forcing poor people to buy something from an industry that is notorious for denying claims is not the way to go. Ensuring decent, reliable, and affordable insurance and providing the means for the uninsured to have access to it equals opportunity, and is thus far more attractive. Now if you can just show your posting to Jonathan Cohn maybe he can see the light as well.

December 24, 2007 10:24 PM

aeromonas said:

Don't ask why I'm up surfing the web at 6AM on Christmas Day, 8000 miles away from my own three kids.

Sorry to go OT, but at the new Talkback, sometimes you gotta try to open up your own discussion threads.  

Did anyone catch this referenced exposee by RFK Jr on irregularities in the 2004 Presidential Election in Ohio?  

www.rollingstone.com/.../was_the_2004_election_stolen

Looks to me like John Edwards was right to be pissed at Kerry for refusing to contest the result.  It makes me like him a little bit more and also leads me to wonder if this is part of where his newfound anti-Washington establishment fire has come from.

And TNR, why haven't YOU reported on this?  Yes, the story is 3 years old, and yes we're deep into another election, but if there's anything to this--and on the face of it it's hard to see how there isn't at least SOMETHING to it--it would seem to be highly relevant both to decisions as to which of the major parties best promotes and represents American democracy and to the practical matter of seeing to it that the Democrats don't get fucked out of the White House three times running.

December 25, 2007 6:47 AM

aarong said:

"If Hillary's base prefers Obama's solution..."

Opposition to "mandates" might reflect a preference for a system where health insurance is an option.  Or it might mean that the respondent doesn't want insurance companies involved at all.  Someone who believes in a singe-payer system would oppose both the Clinton and the Obama plans.  It seems to me that a rational "blue-collar" worker would prefer single-payer, especially if it's financed by a progressive tax.

December 26, 2007 10:13 AM

jhildner said:

aarong:  *I* prefer single-payer.  I prefer a lot of things.  And I think most the Dems would like to get there.  But you can't get there unless you take it a step at a time.  You can't move too fast and too far ahead of the electorate when you're talking about drastic changes.  It usually takes catastrophe for drastic changes to happen with little opposition -- see the Depression.  We're trying to do something big without a *major* catastrophe.  It's hard.  It's similar to gay marriage.  I would prefer legalizing gay marriage.  I don't know what the candidates think in their heart of hearts on this issue, but the fact that we're talking about civil unions -- all the concrete benefits of marriage -- while deferring to some extent, for the time being, to those who have strong objections to calling it marriage -- is a big step in the right direction.  Everyone hated "don't ask, don't tell," but the fact is, is that it was a step toward allowing it outright (even if the policy has had some bad effects).  Taking a humble approach that acknowledges and takes seriously the attitudes of the voters as you try to move forward isn't pandering or following -- it's smart leadership, and it's also what the democratic process is about.  Of all the candidates, I think Obama has the temperament and abilities to lead in that way -- to move in the right direction while taking a broad consensus with him.

December 26, 2007 3:14 PM

aarong said:

Jhildner:

I'm not talking about who would make a better President.  Any one of the top six Democrats would be fine by me, and these "policy" disagreements are the narcissism of small differences.  My point is that you shouldn't jump to the conclusion that anyone (outside the beltway) who says they're against mandates necessarily prefers Obama's plan to Hillary's.  The blue collar voters of Manchester, NH, may be unsophisiticated enough to prefer something else to either.

And since you brought it up, "Don't Ask Don't Tell" is a lousy model for leadership.  I doubt that homophobia was more virulent in the U.S. in 1993 than racism was in 1948.  The difference was that back then we had a leader as President.

December 26, 2007 3:48 PM