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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
14.10.2008
Jesse Jackson is Doing His Darndest to Defeat Barack Obama

Yes, I understand that Barack Obama has eviscerated Jesse Jackson's racket. Whether he becomes president or not, and he will become president. Obama has also eviscerated Al Sharpton's racket. And that of the other African American parasites who know how to make a speech. This is now serious time for blacks in the United States because there will sit in the White House and increasingly in Congress people who, however cosmopolitan, are also from and of their world, people who are not cynical about it but will bring the best will and the best attention to its problems.

The problems are gargantuan, and they have not become smaller just because the country is now worried about whether its bankers need to earn two million dollars a year or whether one million dollars will do. The problems are also multiple. Every serious citizen and certainly every serious black citizen (and Hispanic citizen, too) has an issue on which he would want the public and the public till to focus.

I have mine: I believe that the transformatory demographic absent in the minority world is a solid layer of scientists, engineers, mathematicians, and computer experts. There are only two or three handfuls above none among African Americans who fit this characterization. OK, I'm exaggerating: there are five or six.  A paltry number when what is required (for the United States and for blacks) is a vast cohort of such men women trained in the various sciences, abstract and concrete, so that new world not be closed to these citizens and that the upward mobility that flows from these disciplines also be open to them and the coming generations. I've been pushing this idea for more than 40 years with only a bit of success.  Maybe I will try to push it on Barack Obama.

It is not something that ever interested Jesse Jackson, for sure not. But what would he ever have done with it? Perhaps mention it in a speech--that is after all his vocation, a paid speechmaker--maybe in the French lakeside village of Evian where he was last week. Doing what? Delivering a speech, of course. The very reliable Amir Taheri, the author of The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution, has written a column which I saw in today's New York Post.  So what did Jackson say to his international audience? That Zionist time was up. The justice has not been given to the Palestinians, as if this were a one-way exchange and the only acceptable compromise was for Israel to give up all. And then the usual clap-trap of the demagogues: "Zionists...have controlled American policy for decades."  The most important change would occur in the Middle East where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end. So now Jackson is a foreign policy realist, like that odd couple, Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer. It's too bad that both Obama and Biden have declared themselves Zionists.

Jackson apparently considers himself "family" to Obama, although there is nothing in either of the candidate's autobiographies to suggest that. Still, there is on the record that offhand remark of Jackson's about smashing Obama's gonads. So maybe he does think of himself as a father of sorts, a very envious father who...well, you can parse out the testicles metaphor yourself.

What is certain is that Obama was never in Jackson's shadow and never under Jackson's tent. Obama is too savvy for that...and too careful with the meaning of words to allow himself to be submerged in Jackson's demagoguery.

As it happens, Jackson was not for Obama during the primaries. It was his son--also a very different personage from good ol' dad--who endorsed Obama and worked for him. So what do we make of Jesse trying the game of the putting on of hands? In his heart of hearts, I think he wants to destroy the candidate.

As I think Bill Clinton also does.

They won't.


Posted: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:22 PM with 19 comment(s)

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blackton said:

Some family member, wanting to castrate Obama. I didn't read the post, anything with Jesse Jackson in the lede is just a big waste of time, and I suspect more and more Americans feel the same way. His time (if you can call it that) is past, and Obama essentially obliterates him to irrelevance.

October 14, 2008 7:28 PM

selish70 said:

"Yes, I understand that Barack Obama has eviscerated Jesse Jackson's racket. Whether he becomes president or not..."

Incorrect.  He needs to win, period.  Should he lose - and you must admit at least the theoretical possibility that he will - it will be blamed on pure racism by a good many people, and Sharpton and Jackson certainly know how to work that angle.  In fact, they'll likely be stronger.

October 14, 2008 8:15 PM

noga1 said:

A few days ago it was Farrakhan adulating Obama as the next messiah (not just metaphorically, but religiously). Now Jesse Jackson. Obama remains a mystery, mainly due to his devotees. He has distanced himself as clearly as words can make it so, yet they continue to speak for him. Why are they now offended by his cold shouldering them? Why do they assert such support for him even when he loudly declares that his positions are the very opposite to theirs?  Why are Gazans working to promote his election? Why are they so sure that he is merely dissimulating, doing what he has to do in order to get elected...?

October 14, 2008 8:23 PM

blackton said:

Noga1, pretty easy answer,

Because these people are stupid. Gazans see the Hussein in his middle name so dupe themselves over that. Farrakhan is an idiot who only sees the color of Obama, and Jackson wants to ruin Obama's chances. Jackson said he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off. As much as I might loathe Palin (and I do) I would never want to cut off any of her body parts. And certainly less so than McCain, who is a deep disappointment but who I still harbor some affection for (deep down), he did make me laugh too many times on the Daily Show to forever resent him. So obviously Jackson is playing some bizarre game.

Beyond that McCain has more than his share of genuine kooks, prominant ones but kooks nonetheless. Unfortunately, he has chosen one as his VP, and others as his advisers.

If McCain had run as the McCain of 2000, then I wouldn't care at all what kook supported him since I would have known they would not have affected his judgment. That is no longer true for him. I see no reason why it is not true for Obama.

October 14, 2008 8:49 PM

noga1 said:

So is it safe to say, then, that  it's Obama's most devoted adulators who are the most racist among the voters? To whom can they be compared on the McCain side?

October 14, 2008 9:58 PM

jacksondyer said:

w w w . h a a r e t z . c o m

Last update - 00:09 15/10/2008

“Jesse Jackson: Obama will rid United States of 'Zionist' control”

By Haaretz service

“The New York Post reported Tuesday that the Rev. Jesse Jackson said the United States will rid itself of years of "Zionist" control under an administration headed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

The daily quoted the veteran civil rights leader on Tuesday as having said that although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they will lose a much of their clout when Obama enters the White House.

Speaking at the first World Policy Forum event in Evian, France, Jackson promised "fundamental changes" in U.S. foreign policy. He said the most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end.

Jackson said that Obama "wants an aggressive and dynamic diplomacy." He went on to criticize the Bush administration's handling of Middle East diplomacy, telling the Post, "Bush was so afraid of a snafu and of upsetting Israel that he gave the whole thing a miss. Barack will change that," because, as long as the Palestinians haven't seen justice, the Middle East will "remain a source of danger to us all."

Jackson has not always been such a strong Obama supporter. In July, he apologized to the Illinois senator for "crude and hurtful" remarks he had made about him after an interview with a Fox News correspondent.

Speaking to a fellow interviewee without realizing his microphone was on, Jackson said, "See, Barack's been talking down to black people.... I want to cut his nuts off."

"It was very private," Jackson said, adding that if "any hurt or harm has been caused to [Obama's] campaign, I apologize." “

www.haaretz.com/.../1028665.html

October 15, 2008 12:05 AM

bkaplovitz said:

"African and African-American children have a different way of learning."

--From Jeremiah Wright's Speech To NAACP, April 2008

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If this nifty bit of racialism (see below) becomes the "meta-narrative" informing an Obama Administration's policy for public school education, especially for urban public schools, will Liberal Democrats such as Mr.  Peretz, especially afer voting for Obama in three weeks time, openly take proud ownership of this “meta-narrative” and its many (unintended or not) effects?

This speech (see below) was much more revealing about Reverend Wright’s real

beliefs--and potentially much more damaging to Barack Obama--than Wright’s National

Press Club speech and Q&A the following day. When ditching Wright, Obama did

an especially effective job of directing the MSM's attention (and therefore,

the public's) towards  Wright’s National Press Club appearance and away from

Wright's incendiary NAACP speech. Only Victor Davis Hanson caught the dangerous

import of Wright's NAACP remarks.

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" . . . Is Dr. Hale here tonight? We owe her a debt of gratitude. Dr. Hale showed

us that in comparing African-American children and European-American children in

the field of education, we were comparing apples and rocks.

"And in so doing, we kept coming up with meaningless labels like EMH, educable

mentally handicapped, TMH, trainable mentally handicapped, ADD, attention deficit

disorder.

"And we were coming up with more meaningless solutions like reading, writing

and Ritalin. Dr. Hale's research led her to stop comparing African-American

children with European-American children and she started comparing the pedagogical

methodologies of African-American children to African children and European-American

children to European children. And bingo, she discovered that the two different

worlds have two different ways of learning. European and European-American children

have a left brained cognitive object oriented learning style and the entire educational

learning system in the United States of America. Back in the early '70s, when

Dr. Hale did her research was based on left brained cognitive object oriented learning

style. Let me help you with fifty cent words.

"Left brain is logical and analytical. Object oriented means the student learns

from an object. From the solitude of the cradle with objects being hung over his

or her head to help them determine colors and shape to the solitude in a carol in

a PhD program stuffed off somewhere in a corner in absolute quietness to absorb

from the object. From a block to a book, an object. That is one way of learning,

but it is only one way of learning.

"African and African-American children have a different way of learning.

"They are right brained, subject oriented in their learning style. Right brain

that means creative and intuitive. Subject oriented means they learn from a subject,

not an object. They learn from a person. Some of you are old enough, I see your

hair color, to remember when the NAACP won that tremendous desegregation case back

in 1954 and when the schools were desegregated. They were never integrated. When

they were desegregated in Philadelphia, several of the white teachers in my school

freaked out. Why? Because black kids wouldn't stay in their place. Over there

behind the desk, black kids climbed up all on them.

"Because they learn from a subject, not from an object. Tell me a story. They

have a different way of learning. Those same children who have difficulty reading

from an object and who are labeled EMH, DMH and ADD. Those children can say every

word from every song on every hip hop radio station half of who's words the

average adult here tonight cannot understand. Why? Because they come from a right-brained

creative oral culture like the (greos) in Africa who can go for two or three days

as oral repositories of a people's history and like the oral tradition which

passed down the first five book in our Jewish bible, our Christian Bible, our Hebrew

bible long before there was a written Hebrew script or alphabet. And repeat incredulously

long passages like Psalm 119 using mnemonic devices using eight line stanzas. Each

stanza starting with a different letter of the alphabet. That is a different way

of learning. It's not deficient, it is just different. . . . "

--From Jeremiah Wright's Speech To NAACP, April 2008

================================

CNN.com

April 28, 2008

Comp;ete Transcript Of Jeremiah Wright's Speech To NAACP

edition.cnn.com/.../index.html

© 2008 Cable News Network. A Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.

October 15, 2008 1:36 AM

blackton said:

noga, you are joking right? There are far more racists voting for McCain than the reverse. Blacks have traditionally voted 90% plus for the Democrat regardless of color. The only difference this time for blacks is that they will come out in larger numbers to vote, but I simply don't think people exercising their duty to vote should be cast as a negative.

I personally know many people who won't vote for Obama because he is black, and only because he is black, and these are people who normally vote Democratic. They are all elderly relatives so there really is no use arguing with them, so please don't pretend it doesn't exist.

October 15, 2008 10:21 AM

maya90 said:

Jesse Jackson is a HUGE JERK, who has become totally irrelevant to liberal politics..  no -- make that irrelevant to EVERYTHING..  nobody cares anymore what he has to say, and one wonders why he's still bothering to open his mouth at all, since NO ONE IS LISTENING...

Apart from all this, his attempt at sabotaging Obama reeks of nothing less than a huge amount of RESENTMENT at the emergence of this new, much more vibrant, pragmatic, brilliant, intellectual, knowledgeable -- and RELEVANT -- African American leader than Jackson ever was -- and who, moreover, is a leader for ALL, not just one segment of the population like Jackson was -- or pretended to be.

Jackson should crawl right back to the hole where he emerged from the other day to spout this drivel clearly intended to derail Obama's campaign..   this clearly demonstrates that Jackson never cared much for the advancement of African Americans, only about HIS OWN advancement, which of course stopped A LONG TIME AGO due to nothing else but Jackson's glaring MEDIOCRITY -- intellectual and otherwise, and his demagoguery.

October 15, 2008 10:31 AM

blackton said:

bkaplovitz, sorry but I have zero interest in the ravings of some minister. Is it really so hard to see that Obama, having grown up in a white family and married a black woman, sought a way to fit into (and understand) the black community and simply picked the wrong church? And having done so, having made friends and found faith and fellowship was reluctant to leave.

Even Catholics who have been molested by priests many have remained in their parish, still attending church, finding a way to seperate the good from the bad. Would you condemn these people as well?

October 15, 2008 10:32 AM

ironyroad said:

bkaplovitz, your post -- if I understand your argument -- is nonsensical.  Why would Obama, who clearly has no time for the conspiracy thinking and race theories of Jeremiah Wright, seek to enact his "meta-narrative" in an Obama education policy?  In case you weren't watching last March/April, that kind of screed is exactly what brought about the split between Wright and Obama.

October 15, 2008 11:22 AM

arsonplus said:

Noga1

Two things. First, the term "racism" when properly deployed describes a social structure. To engage in productive discourse on the subject of "race" we must therefore distinguish it from "bigotry" the proper descriptor for an individual's race based personal beliefs.  

Second. If you'll take a minute to do a little research on Obama's base of support, you'll find that it's always been strongest in what Richard Florida dubbed the creative class. During the primary season Obama won every metro area at the top of his index by a 3 to 1 margin - back when the folks  you're talking about supported Clinton.

October 15, 2008 11:26 AM

singlespeed said:

bkaplovitz...

So let me get this straight. A Dr. Hale does cognitive research to determine how children learn and discovers that AA children learn better by learning a subject from someone, i.e. hands on with a teacher versus simply giving them a book to read and taking tests. Reverend Wright then says that it's amazing that for so long AA children have been labeled 'this or that learning disabled' because many may not naturally take to left-brained teaching and recognizing that different teaching techniques need to be used to ensure that children, especially AA children have been disadvantaged by teaching methods that don't work for them. Lots of students benefit from different teaching techniques beyond simply rot memorization of books or direct teaching.

You then conflate this to being 1) racist and 2) automatic that Obama will use his new found position as POTUS to push a black-centric teaching environment. I hate to bust your bubble but Obama's history would show otherwise. When he became president of the Harvard Law Review, his progressive friends, including a majority of the black law students, assumed he would affirmatively advance the 'black' cause by promoting black law students to a majority of the editor positions. Obama did the opposite and assigned editorships to the progressive and conservative law students which didn't exactly sit well with either side.

Re-hashing the old "He sat there for 20 years listening to Wright" meme doesn't go anywhere because by in-large there are equally questionable "judgment" skeletons in McCain's closet. A man that has embraced with warm bear hugs the 'agents of intolerance' he so vehemently dressed down in 2000.

October 15, 2008 11:43 AM

arsonplus said:

O' and by the way, its worth remembering that folks like Jackson and Sharpton have hated folks like Obama for years ... They said the same "cut off his balls" things about Cory Booker.

October 15, 2008 11:44 AM

noga1 said:

Ben Cohen from Z-word blog:

"Given that we are less than a month from the Presidential election, it’s not surprising that much of the media coverage of Jackson’s statement has focused on why he apparently thinks speaking out like this is a help to the Obama campaign. For those of us taking a longer view, what stands out is the persistence of the theme - common on the left, but pushed most aggressively by conservative academics like John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt - that, in Jackson’s words, “Zionists control” US policy, or, as Pat Buchanan put it in 1990, that “Capitol Hill is Israeli-occupied territory.”

It’s a position that reeks of antisemitism (the old “Jewish power” theme) and of the emotion which frequently accompanies it - bitterness, because advocates of a US strategic shift away from Israel have consistently failed to make their case. What the “Zionist lobby” obsessives refuse to understand is well-put by the American Jewish Committee statement condemning Jackson: “It is this commonality of shared values and shared interests, and not Jackson’s conspiratorial notions of power, that unite Israel and America.”

blog.z-word.com/.../jesse-jackson-falls-off-the-wagon

October 15, 2008 12:45 PM

jwl2672 said:

You people are deluding yourself if you think Obama being president is going to mean the end to racism.  When he loses in 2012 or steps down in 2016, chances are pretty damned high that a white person is going to be running the show then.  And blacks are then going to revert back to the usual trope about discrimination and what not.  Ask New York or Detroit or Newark or any city with a black mayor whether they think discrimination exists in the city or not.  Racism is a state of the mind - grievance mongers will always find something to scream about.

October 15, 2008 1:41 PM

ironyroad said:

jwl2672:  "You people are deluding yourself if you think Obama being president is going to mean the end to racism."

Who on earth are you talking to?  I can't recall a single poster ever making a claim like that on these boards.  What various people have said -- speculatively -- is that Obama's success indicates that the grip that "racial" thinking has had on white American voters has weakened considerably.

October 15, 2008 3:11 PM

DawnCandace said:

Wow jwl12672, thanks for enlightening my feeble AA mind! Racism is just a state of mind! That is so wonderful to know! Please inform my father of this discovery. The other day he informed me that while getting out of his car (which now displays an Obama sticker) a fellow Marylander of the Caucasian persuasion leaned out of his car window as he drove by and screamed "Nigger" at him. But, perhaps my father was just in the grip of a fearsome delusion and was hearing voices and seeing things.

Please! I have rarely come across such ignorant rubbish during the past year of my frequenting this site save from the few delusional trolls that are often called out by other commenters.  If only racism were merely a state of mind held by those who claim to suffer from it. In addition to this nation's long history of racism of various stripes and varieties, the current rancor of some of the more outspoken followers of the McCain campaign show that people are not just imagining racism. While this campaign has also highlighted how far our country has progressed when it comes to racism, When people sell Obama waffles, waive around stuffed monkeys they name after Obama and unabashedly tell NYT reporters that they won't vote for Obama because he is black or even because he is bi-racial and they feel interracial relationships are a sin, I don't think we can argue racism is just a delusion held by minorities.  it also has shown that racism and racial prejudice is still very much alive.

I don't' think any rational person would argue that Obama's election would erase racism. However, I do think to many it is a sign of the progress of our nation and hope for the future. Do I expect the president's following him to be minorities? Not necessarily. However, I am now no longer so clearly convinced that such an occurrence is impossible.

(I hope I just misread your comment, but upon rereading it I am still convinced it is utter tripe.)

October 15, 2008 4:06 PM

noga1 said:

Is Jackson really so far off with his predictions? Is this a taste of things to come?

"A second meeting participant speaking on condition on anonymity said he was stunned to learn that Awad and Bray had been invited to an event where Obama representatives would be present. The participant said Awad and Bray are considered politically “radioactive.” He said that some in the Obama group knew ahead of time that top CAIR officials would be in attendance—an allegation the Obama campaign disputes.

“Yes, when I knew they were coming it made me uncomfortable,” the attendee said. “There was some hope it wouldn’t get out” into the media, the attendee added. “There was some concern within the Obama camp that some of these people coming may be a political liability.”

littlegreenfootballs.com/.../31530_Obama_Campaign_Met_with_Hamas_and_Hezbollah_Supporters

October 15, 2008 7:34 PM

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