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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
18.07.2008
The ICC and Darfur

The self-styled "world community"--a combine of supercilious diplomats, self-righteous NGOs, and unrealistic journalists--has for years been lethargically searching for a solution to the problem of genocide in Darfur. And now this alliance of the high-minded has been let off the hook. The prosecutor at the international court in The Hague is seeking an indictment of the president of Sudan. Now, such an indictment is well-deserved. But it is not justice, as Nuremberg was justice.  Moreover, the real powers on the African continent (the Arab states to the north and post-apartheid South Africa) are against this move. How can you indict Omar Al Bashir without the approval of Qadhafi?

 

In any case, true justice is not a long and long-delayed proceeding against one person who has been the political front for the orgy of murder. I prefer in such cases the quick dispatch of Mussolini to his father in heaven. The end of the Sudanese genocide requires force and nothing less than force. But, actually, not all that much force. And if Barack Obama and John McCain were to jointly appeal to President Bush for a deployment of force such force would be deployed. The combination of Obama and McCain would be irresistible, and it would be morally exemplary: the first action by the West to stop the killing of African blacks. America would not be alone: I have once or twice before listed those democratic countries that would join us in the effort.

 

Which is just what Nicholas Kristof is against. In his last column, he latches on to The Hague proceedings as a substitute for practical action, writing "[W]e should be applauding. The prosecution for genocide is a historic step that also creates an opportunity in Sudan."  But this substitute will not stop the killing. Only arms, Western arms, and Western personnel (plus perhaps Japanese and South Koreans) can do that.  And that is taboo to Kristof. What are not taboo for Kristof are moral slights at Israel, even in this piece in which it has no place whatever.

 

In an editorial a few days ago, The Wall Street Journal explains why the international court is a particularly obtuse way of dealing with genocide: "[T]he indictment is of a piece with the same toothless moral posturing that has already prolonged Darfur's misery for more than four years." Please read it.

Posted: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:33 PM with 12 comment(s)

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jacobt1 said:

Marty,

You continue to be silent about most important issue, Iraq war. Now,  do you understand leftists who refused to criticize  USSR for anything?

July 18, 2008 2:05 PM

boneill said:

Jacob, m'boy- stay on topic.  You're hyper-ventilating.   Relax.  

Marty, do you really think we could intervene in Darfur?   Could we?  How, exactly, would that work?  It is one thing to demand force, another thing to actually have a plan.   How would ivading another Muslim country hurt our broader efforts in the GWoT?  

(Yes, I know that the victims are also Muslims.  But this isn't how it is portrayed.  And in this war, perception matters, unfortunately).  

Listen, I think we should use some muscle here, too.  But don't dismiss the ICC becuase it seems effette to you.   Remember the ills of plunging in just to show how tumescent you are.  

July 18, 2008 2:57 PM

jacobt1 said:

boneill  said:

"Jacob, m'boy- stay on topic.  You're hyper-ventilating.   Relax."

We still live in a free country. We still can laugh at the presidents and ask any questions. Let's enjoy our freedom while it lasts.

July 18, 2008 4:02 PM

boneill said:

Oh, is it going away?   Yes obama take it away.  

My point, jacob, is that no matter what the topic is you monomanically try to steer it toward Obama.  There are other things is the world.  Try joining in a topic that has to do with something else.  You might even have fun.  

OK- "fun" and "genocide" shouldn't go in the same sentence.  But you know what I mean.

And, while we are on the topic, or back on- Marty, do you object to Bashir being indicted?  Absent any intervention, which doesn't look likely, isn't that at least a postive thing? Even a guy like Bashir cares a bit about his legacy.  Being indicted makes him even more toxic and lowers his chances of leaving this world in the comfort of exile.   I know it isn't going to stop the genocide, but is it such a bad thing?

July 18, 2008 4:41 PM

derekcatsam said:

boneill --

I too cannot quite get at Marty's empty hyperventilating about Darfur. His argument seems to be: force or nothing. And so he criticizes those who do something that is not the use of force. Like you (from what I can tell) I would advocate force and have for years now, but at the same time, it's easy to advocatye force in the abstract, hard to implement it in the concrete. And so it would seem to me that half measures are better than none, and if an ICC indictment is but a half-measure it's at least something.

Marty goes after the most bizarre sources -- kristof, eg. -- who fundamentally want the horrors in Darfur stopped simply because they do not have his exact solution in mind. And yet once we recognize that there are no easy solutions, why the vitriol? Perplexing.

dcat

July 18, 2008 4:55 PM

jacobt1 said:

boneill  said:

"Oh, is it going away?   Yes obama take it away."

Yes, he can. I don't think it will be like North Korea, however the cult personality is quite embarrassing already.  

July 18, 2008 5:36 PM

jhw4 said:

Marty, Stopping the genocide in Darfur requires force AND political moves that enable Darfuris to meet without Khartoum present in order to form an interim regional govenment and take Sudan toward a treu federalism.  We've been working on such a plan for two years, improving it and testing it with Darfuris and with American mliitary and civilian experts. Your old Tutor in the Social Studies Program, his former student and fellow Bosnia and Darfur activist Elviir Camdzic, and the Canadians they've been working with, would be happy to have you check out our ideas at www.weaversofthewind.org.

John Weiss

July 18, 2008 5:42 PM

The Spine said:

As you may have noted from my Darfur Spine this morning, I am not optimistic about the lame efforts being

July 18, 2008 5:42 PM

boneill said:

Thanks, dcat- good to have an expert in Africa back up my ramblings.    John Weiss, thanks for the link; I will check it out.   I didn't think how the indictment will make it harder for Khartoum to be around when decisions are being made, helping to avoid the hideous concessions made to Milosevic at Dayton ("you can keep everything that killing got you- but not an inch more.  That is your punishment).

OK, jake, I'm sold.  I am now mortally terrified of his "cult personality".  Now- can we talk about Darfur?  Any thoughts?  

July 18, 2008 5:59 PM

jacobt1 said:

boneill  said,

"Now- can we talk about Darfur?  Any thoughts?  "

No need for any thoughts. The One will tell us what to think.

July 18, 2008 7:03 PM

teplukhin2you said:

derek - welcome back. On topic, what do you recommend? Any links are appreciated.

Thanks,

t

July 18, 2008 11:03 PM

derekcatsam said:

boneil/T2 --

My Africa work tends to be more Sub-Saharan and I come to Darfur the way many Africanists do -- because it is a hot spot and because I've been asked to write about it. I am far from an expert on Sudan or Darfur (as I learned at this year's Sudan Studies Association conference!).

If you want to read more about Sudan from those who do know their stuff, the first two places I would go would be to Alex de Waal's work and to Gerard Prunier's. For primers, de Waal and Julie Flint wrote "Darfur: A Short History of a Long War," which has just been re-released with a different title in a longer format. Prunier's "Darfur: The Ambiguous Genocide" is every bit as good. As advocacy goes, Eric Reeves' work is pretty good, though experts like de Waal tend not to think all that highly of him.

As for what to do, there are no easy solutions, and there are fewer now than there may have been three years ago. The bulk of the killing, after all, is already done. And in light of American involvement in Iraq, we're not sending US troops in. The UN has been feckless -- no surprise -- but the United States has pretty much abdicated leadership in the global community as well, so while we tsk tsk Turtle Island we've no position to be righteous.

One thing I would make clear, though, is that humanitarian aid, support, observers, and what have you will get through. The first time they are stopped will be the last, and the next convoy will go through with the support of real soldiers with real bullets with real permission to shoot. That would be a clear mission, and, Iraq notwithstanding, I'm still pretty confident that the presence of US soldiers would scatter the janjaweed and their nefarious allies and would also cause the various rebel groups to back off. This would be coupled with heightened aid, sanctions where necessary toward Khartoum, and, yes, if the ICC decides do go after al bashir, well, I'll weep no tears.

But my ideal solution involves a time machine, will that never was there to begin with, and a blind naivete that somehow without Iraq we would care about Darfur -- and not only Darfur, but the larger chaos in Sudan almost all of which is fomented  by the murderous regime in Khartoum.

dcat

July 19, 2008 1:11 PM

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