WTF?

Did Judas have a goatee?

Bill'll probably have to shave it before he takes his cabinet post (unless it's the new Secretary of Hip-Hop).

I like it when your funny Marty. Thanks for the laugh. I note that I also think calling Hill a shrew is a sexist remark. I don't hear you calling Donald Rumsfeld a shrew. Oy. Now there will be a scandal about your words--into the freak show as they say. Well, it won't be the first time, but sexist sh*t doesn't gain you any more readers. Though again, I must say your comments are funny, true, and shrewd.

Marty, like your fellow Obamaphiles:  it's like you've lived in California for 20 years. (Capote says you deduct a point of IQ for each year.)

No, Carville was not comparing Hillary to Jesus, and YOU KNOW IT.  You're just being an infantile smartass.  I suppose, if Carville had used Benedict Arnold you'd have said he was comparing Hillary to George Washington.

Why don't you grow up?

jm_rice - Carville made the analogy.  If he doesn't like the way people carry it to its logical conclusion, he shouldn't have said it.

epackard-02, c'mon, Judas is just a metaphor for betrayer.  That doesn't imply that Hillary is Jesus, except to an adolescent.  One can engage in anti-Hillary polemic,, but let's not be silly about it.

If he had said Benedict Arnold and not Judas, Marty would be complaining that Carville had likened Richardson to Ward Churchill or somesuch.  

And, Marty, you would be Caiaphas.  

Judas or Arnold, the specific analogy is irrelevant.  Carville came out and called Richardson a traitor for endorsing Obama.  That in itself is revolting, regardless of his choice of metaphor.

Does this mean Bill's mother is the virgin Mary?  And who, by the way, would Pontius Pilate be?  Who is the man or woman who'll finally order the hit on Hillary?  And shouldn't this person really be considered a saint?

Jim:  Unless of course we're referring to Obama's campaign calling Clinton a McCarthyite.  Now that's going too far.  Because everybody knows that Clinton's not really McCarthy.   Please, your bias is showing in a big way.  Unlike mine--which I keep so well hidden.  (cue laughter.)

Obama's campaign didn't call Clinton a McCarthyite.  Retired Air Force General Merril McPeak said the following "I was going to college when Joe McCarthy accused good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it."

If people would simply look at the context of remarks such as this, instead of serving them up triumphantly as deracinated soundbites, it would quickly be apparent that there is absolutely no substance to the assertion that Obama's campaign referred to Clinton as a McCarthyite.  What McPeak was trying to do was to draw attention to the fact that baseless insinuations concerning the patriotism of others is as ugly as McCarthyism.  As Samuel Johnson put it, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."  Clinton's snide statements about proud Americanism were a prime example.

why is everyone calling it a metaphor? a form of expression (not using `like' or `as')in which a quality or characteristic is given to a person or thing by using a name, image, adjective etc normally used of something else which has similar qualities etc

Example: `He's a tiger when he's angry' is an example of (a) metaphor.

What I would love is for Obama to take Richardson as his VP, and then watch Carville squirm. How can he endorse a ticket with Judas on it? Carville knows if Obama is elected he will be done, not a member of the in Dem. crowd anymore, nor considering his age will ever be.

blackton - you're right.  Carville would be done.  And that's not a bad thing.  His and Mary Matilin's Odd Couple shtick has worn quite thin.

Hillary is Brian. "She's not the messiah; she's a VERY NAUGHTY girl..."

Bill is Jesus,. Hillary is Mary Magdelene.

Only the most nonsensical Carville verbal pop off since 2006 when, a few days after the elections in which Democrats regained majorities in the House, the Senate and several state legislatures for the first time since 1994, he demanded the resignation of DNC Chair Howard Dean.

You remember those good old days after the 1994 elections.  The Clintons were in the White House.  Newt Gingrich was just starting his reign as Speaker.  Trent Lott was Majority Leader.  Democratic Governors and state legislators were being considered for inclusion on the endangered species list.  And, James Carville was a highly paid consultant to the Democratic National Committee.

Oh, if we could just put James back to work, the party would be just . . . . oh, nevermind.

Carville is trying to hold the latino vote as is. Hence the imagery. He has come to allow as to a certain pride in his originality and validity. He's rather happy with his salvo and I have to admit from a purely tactical POV the sound and fury did conceal the intended delivery.

By the way, I don't like Carville and never have. I don't believe there is a principle he wouldn't happily betray if it fit with his designs of whatever political intent or desired outcome.

I have loved this journal for years - in DC and now overseas, but gosh, it would appear from this distance that (almost) all TNR's critical faculties have been suspended for the duration of this primary campaign. "Authoritarian shrew"? *this* is incisive analysis?