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26.11.2007
Roger Cohen vs. Bernard Lewis

There was an inadvertent debate this morning between two op-ed pieces: one in the New York Times by Roger Cohen (he, of the priestly caste among the Jews); the other in the Wall Street Journal by Bernard Lewis (a scholar of titanic stature but a Jew as ordinary as the rest of us Israelites).  The two essays of roughly a thousand words each appear to be addressed to the outcome of tomorrow's conference at Annapolis.  They are not.  They are different ways of reading history...or, of one of them, not reading history at all.

Cohen's article is plainly titled, "Bush's Best Hope." But it is nowhere as prosaic as that.  He gives over most of his words to what Salaam Fayyad, "the can-do face of the Palestinian movement" and its relatively fresh prime minister, says.  This is bad news for Mohammed Abbas, the man in whom we were supposed to invest our hopes.   Abbas's already designated successor is civilized, presumably well-educated at the University of Texas and experienced in high economics from the work he did at the St. Louis Federal Reserve, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund as its representative to the Palestinian Authority. 

What does Fayyad want?  Cohen endorses his interlocutor's formula: "Fayyad is right.  A return to the 1967 lines, plus or minus agreed swaps, is the only basis for a two-state accord." "Convince Israel that its long-tern security lies in compromise."  "Bush must tell Israel it's strong enough to bet on Fayyad's vision of co-existence."  This last line is the most preposterous in the entire article.  Israel must bet on Fayyad's vision of co-existence?  And what if that bet turns out bad?  Doesn't Israel's prior dealings with the Palestinians indicate that this bet might actually be folly? Bet?  Is Cohen nuts?  Does he really want Israel to give up the West Bank on the wager that rockets will not be aimed at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as they are -- daily -- from Gaza onto Sderot? 

Cohen cites Fayyad In a non-sequitur:  "Last year more than 50,000 Palestinians emigrated.  How is that consistent with ending the occupation?"   I don't whether it is consistent or inconsistent.  But I suspect that most of these Palestinians migrated out because they were sick of living under the brutal delusions of the Palestinian movement.  Yes, "the Palestinians are desperate because they are at a dead end."  But the dead end is down the road their leaders took them and where they went with delirium.

"Israel's desperation is quieter," Cohen writes. "The economy has blossomed, but not the Israeli soul."  That damned Israeli soul that so many of Israel's friends worry about.  Actually, my observation is that the Israeli soul is in quite good shape, given the surrounding circumstances.  The Israelis have built a society that is democratic, open, scientifically rich, artistically perhaps even richer, a light unto its neighbors if they would only look.  But the Israelis don't especially desire to be a light unto the nations or their neighbors.

Now comes the grievance from the Jews whom Israel has not consoled or conciliated.  Judt, Boyarin, Steiner...et al.  "Jewish precariousness persists," whines Cohen, as if this is due to Israel or to Zionism.  Myself, I don't believe that the Jewish situation is so perilous. 

And then, Cohen comes with the coup de grace.  "The diaspora Jews did not go to Zion to build the Jew among the nations." This pretense of tragic wisdom borders on the simply stupid.  Does Roger Cohen, a high priest among the Israelites, really not know that fully half of the Jews in the world now live in Zion?  That half of the Jews in the world speak Hebrew as their mother tongue?  Who were those who went other than Jews of the Diaspora?  These achievements -- and perhaps especially the revival and remaking of an ancient tongue into both the lingua franca of a people and the carrier of its poetry and high arts -- are either a miracle or the one truly successful revolution in modern times.  As I wrote  fully a decade ago, "The God that Did Not Fail." 

"Israel is powerful, but Palestinian humiliation is an Israeli and Jewish nightmare.  I feel it; many American Jews feel it.  This is not what David Ben Gurion had in mind..." There you have the personal agony and the attempt to make it collective.  Cohen links himself to Ben Gurion but he has not even peeked into Ben Gurion's writings.  BG was no Pollyanna.  His Zionism was like that of Herzl who fought for the time when all Jews could be assured of dying in their own beds.  That is what is not yet fulfilled.  And it is not the fault of the Zionists.

So we come to the WSJ and its little essay by Bernard Lewis, "On the Jewish Question,"  a not so subtle but ironic allusion to Marx.  "The first question (one might think it is obvious but apparently not) is 'What is the conflict about?'  There are basically two possibilities: that it is about the size of Israel, or about its existence."  The syllogism is not all that complicated.  Here it is in two paragraphs:

If the issue is about the size of Israel, then we have a straightforward border problem, like Alsace-Lorraine or Texas. That is to say, not easy, but possible to solve in the long run, and to live with in the meantime.

If, on the other hand, the issue is the existence of Israel, then clearly it is insoluble by negotiation. There is no compromise position between existing and not existing, and no conceivable government of Israel is going to negotiate on whether that country should or should not exist....

Without genuine acceptance of Israel's right to exist as a Jewish State, as the more than 20 members of the Arab League exist as Arab States, or the much larger number of members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference exist as Islamic states, peace cannot be negotiated.

Don't bet that you can.

Posted: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:40 PM with 11 comment(s)

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achester99 said:

Marty, I agree with most of this post, but I wish you wouldn't be so partisan.

"Yes, "the Palestinians are desperate because they are at a dead end."  But the dead end is down the road their leaders took them and where they went with delirium."

This is partisan hackery, no better or worse than a Palestinian advocate who says the Palestinians are in a dead end because of Israel.  The Palestinians are indeed in a dead end and that blame can be spread widely, to the Palestinians, Israel, and many others.  Blame is not a one-way street in Israel/Palestine.

Later you say, "Myself, I don't believe that the Jewish situation is so perilous."  I'd be interested to your response to the Samuels piece in the Jewish Press that Isaac just posted about.

As to your concluding reference to Lewis, I agree, but let's be careful about quoting Lewis.  Yes, he is a respected scholar.  But much of that respect has been lost over the last decade, as he has crawled into bed with the neocons and given them cover for their disastrous policies throughout the Middle East.

November 27, 2007 1:04 AM

teplukhin2you said:

Re Lewis and neocons: Lewis always strenuously argued against US-sponsored democratic revolution in the muslim world, saying that only the muslims themselves can create democracy, if they so choose. And if that choice is for the likes of Hamas, then muslim democracy's even worse than the status quo.  

November 27, 2007 1:43 AM

r-ennis said:

Lewis states the obvious that "there is no compromise postion between existing and not existing". The fact that he is considered an ally of the hated "neocons" does not change the truth of what he says in the article Marty quoted. Also, Teplukhin is correct to state that Lewis does not hold with the neocons who, perhaps wrongly, convinced Bush to wage war with Sudden's Iraq in the hope of creating a democratic stronghold in the Muslim Middle East. I say "perhaps wrongly" because I believe that Iraq may yet, in fact, democratize. It will ceriainly be more democratic than it was under Suddein.

Regarding Cohen, I believe that the great majority of Israeli and diaspora Jews agree that a return to the 1967 borders, plus or minus, with some required adjustments would be acceptable. But the Arabs insist on a one way Right of Return, which is a deal killer.

If there were genuine good will on the part of the Arabs, perhaps a mutual Right of Return could be worked out whereby Palestinians choosing to live in Israel retain Palestinian citizenship and Israelis choosing to live in the newly created Palestinian state would retain Israeli citizenship. This would eliminate Israel's principal problem - demographics.

However, there is no genuine good will there. I was not there in 1948, but I do know that Israel is an open society and a more accurate picture of the events there have been written about by Israelis themselves indicating that Israel was not entirely guiltless. As a result, the majority of Israelis feel some responsibility and wish for a settlement they can live with. On the other hand, the Palestinian Arabs accept absolutely no responsibility for the predicament they find themselves in. Until they do so, there is no hope for a settlement. That is the truth and not "partisan hackery".

November 27, 2007 9:28 AM

JackR said:

Interesting post and terrific discussion.  Under the new format, I've become almost a lurker, so I want to poke my head up and say how much I appreciate  all of of you sharing your knowledge and insight.  I learn a lot, and, in this case, I also appreciate the respectful tone of the discussion.

November 27, 2007 10:44 AM

benberger said:

The whole question of Israel's existence as a Jewish state is actually quite complicated, as anyone with a passing familiarity of internal Israeli politics well knows.  Indeed, it's quite accurate to say that many Jews did not go to Israel to build the Jew amongst the nations - take the case of the haredim, the fastest growing community in Israel. The haredim don't pay taxes, don't serve in the military, and spit on the flag of their own country.  Or what about all those new Ukrainian "Jews"?  The Palestinians know Hebrew better than they do!  

November 27, 2007 12:43 PM

blackton said:

yes, this was one of Marty's better posts, I can't find much if anything I disagree with. Swedes can have Sweden, Germans can have Germany (and Austria too) so to should Jews have Israel (and Florida).

I am sick to death of hearing about Palestinian "humiliation" Mexico was humiliated by the US time and again with over half of their country (California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, etc. ) taken from them. You don't hear Mexicans whining all the time about it. Years ago China tried to govern itself under Mao using the policy of resentment and we all know how that worked out, eventually the Chinese figured out bitching ain't going to feed themselves. Transfer the residents of Shanghai to the Gaza strip and in six months it will be a boom town.

I also agree this conference is a joke. many pictures will be taken, politicos and diplomats will have some nice meals and nothing, hell less than nothing, will be accomplished.

November 27, 2007 1:54 PM

ndmackenzie said:

Daniel Levy joins the Annapolis debate and concludes:

"That does not change the basic equation that for the vast number of Palestinians, Hamas included, this is about addressing a real grievance and not about destroying Israel or America. An America that accurately connects the dots in the region will likely pursue a more inclusive and comprehensive process and do so with the conviction that this is a vital American interest."

www.prospectsforpeace.com/.../thoughts_on_annapolis.html

November 27, 2007 2:38 PM

sabaka said:

Rodger Cohen - what a pernicious idiot.

Consider:

"fundamental error [Bush] made in allowing war-on-terror rhetoric to discredit the Palestinian national movement".  

RIght, if not for Bush's misguided rhetoric, we'd all be still in love with Pals suicide bombers.

"Fayyad, 55, is the can-do face of the Palestinian movement"

And what exactly has he done so far?

"Like his people, he’s long been in the wilderness"

World Bank wilderness?

"He must offset [Palestinian] weakness by standing with the Palestinians on core demands. He must insist on Israeli sacrifice — territorial and ideological — in the name of U.S.-guaranteed security. "

The most core is Pals demand  of  the "right of return" to Israel.  Must Bush really insist on that?  How'd that be compatible with "U.S.-guaranteed security"?

Fayyad on Hamas: "The Palestinian state will be in the West Bank and Gaza, so the current situation is a big problem for implementation. But we’re not there yet. We are talking about a binding agreement with the state of Israel. Our domestic situation will be sorted out by then.”

Translation: give us what we want in a year's time and trust us to take care of Hamas and the rest.

Fayyad again: " I feel no less strongly than these Hamas people talking about resistance. But ...in 1993, we renounced violence and recognized Israel. We must stick with that.”

Then says Cohen: "Bush must tell Israel it’s strong enough to bet on Fayyad’s vision of coexistence."

How reassuring.  Esp. when  seen from NY or Paris.

November 27, 2007 2:39 PM

Bulbman1066 said:

The Palestinians don't have the slightest intention of coexisting with Israel.  Their goal is genocide, pure and simple.    People who send their children off to commit murder suicide are outside of our moral universe.  As one of their leaders said, "The Jews love life and we love death.  That is the difference."

November 27, 2007 9:26 PM

JackR said:

A resident of Haifa,circa 1986, said: "You Americans have a bias: you think that all problems have a solution.  This one doesn't."  This has stuck with me all these years and has so far turned out to be prophetic.  Apparently, the US receives credit for going throught the motions, supporting the pretense that there might possibly be a solution despite all the evidence to the contrary.  Of course the Conference is a futile gesture.  We get some credit for "trying" and kick the can a bit down the road, until such time as the next big wave of disillusion sets in and violence once again escalates.

I really dislike being so cynical and pessimistic.  I would have bet against the North Irish getting their act together and was blessedly wrong.  But I see not the slightest glimmer of hope here.  Anyone see this differently?

November 28, 2007 3:43 PM

CRS9TNR said:

Bernard Lewis' piece in the WSJ was pretty good.  Short and to the point.  

Why can't other Newspapers provide that type of insight?

November 28, 2007 9:15 PM

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