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09.12.2008
Blagojevich Busted (cont'd, cont'd)

Apologies for the serial posts, but this thing just keeps getting juicier. Here's a portion beginning with an intercepted November 10 conference call Blago held with his advisors to discuss the vacant Senate seat.

ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “motherfucker [the President-elect] his senator. Fuck him. For nothing? Fuck him.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH states that he will put “[Senate Candidate 4]” in the Senate “before I just give fucking [Senate Candidate 1] a fucking Senate seat and I don’t get anything.” (Senate Candidate 4 is a Deputy Governor of the State of Illinois). ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated that he needs to find a way to take the “financial stress” off of his family and that his wife is as qualified or more qualified than another specifically named individual to sit on corporate boards. According to ROD BLAGOJEVICH, “the immediate challenge [is] how do we take some of the financial pressure off of our family.” Later in the phone call, ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated that absent getting something back, ROD BLAGOJEVICH will not pick Senate Candidate 1. HARRIS re-stated ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s thoughts that they should ask the President-elect for something for ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s financial security as well as maintain his political viability. HARRIS said they could work out a three-way deal with SEIU and the Presidentelect where SEIU could help the President-elect with ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s appointment of Senate Candidate 1 to the vacant Senate seat, ROD BLAGOJEVICH would obtain a position as the National Director of the Change to Win campaign, and SEIU would get something favorable from the President-elect in the future.

[snip]

Later on November 10, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH and Advisor A discussed the open Senate seat. Among other things, ROD BLAGOJEVICH raised the issue of whether the President-elect could help get ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife on “paid corporate boards right now.” Advisor A responded that he “think[s] they could” and that a “Presidentelect . . . can do almost anything he sets his mind to.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH states that he will appoint “[Senate Candidate 1] . . . but if they feel like they can do this and not fucking give me anything . . . then I’ll fucking go [Senate Candidate 5].” (Senate Candidate 5 is publicly reported to be interested in the open Senate seat). ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated that if his wife could get on some corporate boards and “picks up another 150 grand a year or whatever” it would help ROD BLAGOJEVICH get through the next several years as Governor.

[snip]

On November 11, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with JOHN HARRIS about the Senate seat. ROD BLAGOJEVICH suggested starting a 501(c)(4) organization (a non-profit organization that may engage in political activity and lobbying) and getting “his (believed to be the President-elect’s) friend Warren Buffett or some of those guys to help us on something like that.” HARRIS asked, “what, for you?” ROD BLAGOJEVICH replied, “yeah.” Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated that if he appoints Senate Candidate 4 to the Senate seat and, thereafter, it appears that ROD BLAGOJEVICH might get impeached, he could “count on [Senate Candidate 4], if things got hot, to give [the Senate seat] up and let me parachute over there.” HARRIS said, “you can count on [Senate Candidate 4] to do that.” Later in the conversation, ROD BLAGOJEVICH said he knows that the President-elect wants Senate Candidate 1 for the Senate seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”

Who's Senate Candidate 1? Valerie Jarrett? Does all this explain the final bit of Jodi Kantor's Jarrett profile:

After the election, speculation that Ms. Jarrett might seek Mr. Obama’s Senate seat coursed through Chicago. After a career of helping formidable men, she could finally “be the sun,” as Marilyn Katz, a friend, put it. But the Obamas saw her place in Washington.

“I told her,” Mrs. Obama said, “that I wanted her there, in that position, that it would give me a sense of comfort to know that he had somebody like her there by his side.”

After several long conversations with Mr. Obama, Ms. Jarrett took herself out of the running for the Senate seat. Or, rather, Mr. Obama did: she let him make the call.

“He knows the Senate, he knows me, and he knows what he was looking for in the White House,” she said. “I trusted him to make the decision.”

The incredible thing about all this is, what if Obama had played ball with Blagojevich? The feds would have had the president-elect dead to rights.

Update: I see in TalkBack that people are all pissed off at me, as if I was suggesting that Obama was implicated in Blagojovich's slime. I wasn't. As the Blogo quotes I excerpt up top show, Obama's clean in all this (i.e. Blogo: "I don’t get anything.") But it's not casting aspersions on Obama to marvel at just how big a bullet he dodged here. I mean, Blagojovich was clearly trying to entice Obama into some shady stuff while the FBI was listening into Blago's scheming. That's what's so remarkable about this situation. In other words, if Obama had gone for it (and, I know, I know, he didn't), the FBI would have known and Obama would have been nailed. I can't think of (m)any other instances where an FBI investigation has crept this close to a president-elect. Which makes this hypothetical very different than the one icarusr poses in TalkBack about Hillary Clinton killing Vince Foster with her bare hands. 

Later Update: Ben Smith has smart thoughts about all this:

[T]he key question is whether the transition was talking to prosecutors, whether Obama and Valerie Jarrett knew that Blagojevich had offered her the Senate seat in exchange for a labor job, and how she, the transition, or SEIU handled the solicitation of a bribe. (The existence of a transcript suggests that the SEIU official -- Andy Stern, the president, had met with Blagojevich just before the election on the subject, though nobody is identified in the complaint -- was wearing a wire.)

One piece of speculation: Jarrett's abrupt withdrawal from consideration for the Senate seat suggests Obama's circle aware of the investigation.

It is clear from the complaint that Obama refused to offer Blagojevich anything for appointing Jarrett.

 --Jason Zengerle

Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:43 AM with 14 comment(s)

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poortomsacold said:

zengerle,

the point is, the president-elect did not play ball with this corrupt scumbag idiot.  which just reconfirms my confidence that we elected the right guy to clean this whole f***ing mess up.  get them out, each and every one of them.  democrat, republican, blue with pink polka dots, i don't care.  you have just officially been put on alert, each and every one of you involved in shady dealings which are deep, pervasive and systemic.  i love the smell of change in the morning.

December 9, 2008 11:03 AM

icarusr said:

"what if Obama had played ball with Blagojevich?"

What if Hillary Clinton had actually killed Vince Foster with her bare hands?  She could have been indicted for murder.

Of all the improbable, assinine, stupid, idiotic things you could have drawn out of this story, this hypothetical tops them all.  

“they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them.”

This is Obama's extent of "playing ball".  What if, indeed.

December 9, 2008 11:05 AM

GSpinks said:

The thing that strikes me most about this story line is what many of Obama's detractors were arguing about him during the general election: that he was just another corrupt Chicago politician who had his hand in people's cookie jars and could never be trusted. The irony of exposing Obama as entirely the opposite of that which he was accused repeatedly is absolutely delicious.

December 9, 2008 11:09 AM

kgrant1054 said:

Mr. Zengerle

Piss off.  

You trying out for Drudge with your foolish knavery?  Fox News come calling yet?  Did TNR get sold to Murdoch when I wasn't looking?  

Cretin.

December 9, 2008 11:20 AM

icarusr said:

The FBI has not "crept close" to a President-elect.  Blogo is speculating about the President-elect and was caught on tape.  I could be speculating about bribing Obama and, if caught on tape and charged, it would not mean that the investigation would have "crept close" to the President-elect.

You "creep close" to someone when they are the TARGET, not when they, themselves, are the subject matter of what might well be attempted extortion, or subversion of public office.  Did Obama know of the investigation?  You don't know that.  You are assuming that because Jarrett's name was pulled, Obama must have known about it.  In fact, it would be HIGHLY improper for Obama to be told of such an investigation - if you know anything at all about wiretaps and criminal investigations, you should know that no one, especially no political officials who are close to the events or who are named in the wiretaps, is ever told about them.  So, if Jarrett's name was pulled, it was not because Obama knew of the investigation, but likely because he was not going to play ball.  

In this respect, the continued assertion that he "dodged a bullet" remains assinine.

December 9, 2008 12:09 PM

liberal reformer said:

Icarabusr: What if Eliot Spitzer were to be tricked out having sex with a prostitute? Wait a minute, that already happened earlier this year. True, it would be out of character for Obama to engage in corrupt dealings but then, wasn't it "out of character" for Spitzer to tap a call girl? With his horrible temper, one could envision him having someone wacked but this raging moralist (true, aimed at the financial set but still) putting himself out there for a little erotic gratification and risking his entire career? Mr. i:  a shock is by definition a shock. Mr. Zengerle was by no means beyond the pale in his comments. Or maybe, only so for those with a cramped imagination and a lack of knowledge of history.

December 9, 2008 12:23 PM

GSpinks said:

libref, I'd just like to point out that your parallel with Idiot Spritzer came off perpendicular.

December 9, 2008 12:45 PM

tnr1.com said:

actually, icarusr, i was speculating that obama pulled jarrett's name b/c he realized the kind of slimy stuff blago expected from him in order for her to get the seat. as for the "crept close" description, i think you're wrong. if you're the target of an investigation, as blago was, the investigation is already pretty damn close to you. how much closer could the FBI have gotten to blago, considering they already were listening in on his phone calls. the fact is, blago was trying to entice obama into some shady dealings that the FBI was investigating; i'd say that meant the investigation crept close to obama. the fact that the investigation wound up vindicating obama doesn't mean it didn't come close to him.

December 9, 2008 1:18 PM

icarusr said:

Thanks G.

Lib: Craig, Hyde and Gingrich were all moralistic assholes who were caught with their pants down.  So what?  Pay attention to the point I am making before launching into one of your Baroque ad hominems.  What is ON DISPLAY here clearly suggests that Obama did not want to have anything to do with this.  On the basis that Obama did not want to have anything to do with this, JZ suggests that Obama "dodged a bullet".  To dodge a bullet, in English metaphor, is either 1)  do a bad thing and not get caught; or 2) be on the verge of doing a bad thing and pull out just before the cops arrive.  An innocent party in a bribery scandal does not dodge a bullet when the alleged bribe giver is arrested.

This is on the basis of the information set out above.  Is it possible that Obama is corrupt?  Everything is possible, but that does not come across in the excerpts mentioned here.

Now, do you have to be so aggressively stupid, or does it happen involuntarily?

December 9, 2008 1:34 PM

icarusr said:

JZ: this is getting into a terminological dispute.  I've done criminal investigations - admittedly not for long, but enough - and that is not how a criminal investigator or a prosecutor would characterise "crept close" ... I mean, with the specific connotation that term has.  In a conspiracy investigation, one "creeps close" to the co-conspirators, but not to potential, alleged or actual victims.

Still - at least now, the point of departure is clear.

As for Obama's pulling Jarett's name - "Jarrett's abrupt withdrawal from consideration for the Senate seat suggests Obama's circle aware of the investigation." - I merged your and Politico's point together - my bad.

December 9, 2008 1:42 PM

liberal reformer said:

Icar: Rococo ad hominems, please. You are a self-parody. You get so exercised about Republican corruption (of which there has been a huge amount in recent years, no question) and so not exercised if it is a Democrat. It reminds me of Michelle Malkin gleefully citing Patrick Appel's dissent from Andrew Sullivan's fixation with Sarah Palin's last pregnancy (Appel is Sullivan's intern). Appel said today that he doubts if Malkin's blog would tolerate similar dissent. I highly doubt it. Double standards are ubiquitous.

December 9, 2008 2:18 PM

icarusr said:

"It reminds me of Michelle Malkin gleefully citing Patrick Appel's dissent from Andrew Sullivan's fixation with Sarah Palin's last pregnancy (Appel is Sullivan's intern)."

He he, talk about self-parody.

There are few things in life that exercise me, corruption among politicians of either stripe is not one of them.  If you had bothered to read my posts, I said nothing positive about Democrats or Republicans, or even about Obama.  As I put it in capitals (and only you would miss it), the question was whether IN THIS REPORT there was anything linking Obama to Blago or to the investigation, OTHER THAN THAT HIS NAME WAS MENTIONED.  There wasn't.  Is it possible that Obama is also corrupt?  Of course, but not based on the silliness above.

Now, do you make an effort to be so aggressively stupid, or does it come to you naturally?

December 9, 2008 2:40 PM

jhildner said:

Obama comes out of this smelling great.  Blago is pissed that all Obama is offering is his "appreciation" so fuck that fucker.  Seems like a boy scout nowhere close to playing Blago-style ball.

December 9, 2008 5:57 PM

The Plank said:

Today was not a good day for Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. Here's a round-up of posts we did

December 9, 2008 6:08 PM