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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
04.11.2008
Florida Ballots Go Into Duffle Bags

WASHINGTON, DC--The mass breakdown of voting machines in Florida has led to poll workers stuffing ballots into duffle bags and piling them on the floor in voting precincts, according to Jon Greenbaum, legal director with the watch group Election Protection. Greenbaum says his group has received reports of mechanical voting problems in 35 precincts across 15 Florida counties. The affected areas include Sarasota, Miami-Dade, Orange County, Polk County and Palm Beach.

This year Florida went back to using optical scan machines. Many of the machines weren't working when voters inserted their optical ballots, so poll workers tried to preserve the ballots by putting them into lockboxes. There were so many ballots that the lockboxes started to overflow. Hence the duffle bags.

Apparently, stuffing ballots into sacks is inconsistent with election law. Even in Florida.

--Dave Jamieson

Posted: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:45 PM with 10 comment(s)

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rozenson said:

Man, this really shouldn't be all that difficult.

November 4, 2008 4:53 PM

jet said:

So this is why Republican's like small government - the inability to keep voting machines running (or the inability to provide enough ballots as in Virgina).  Did they stop and think that it might affect their choices too?

November 4, 2008 4:58 PM

GSpinks said:

I wonder how the registrations break down in those counties? The paranoid voice in my head says they're heavily democratic; the reasonable voice in my head says they lean democratic; the pessimist voice in my head says the republicans learned in '00 that letting democrats vote was a bad idea if they wanted to win any seats.

November 4, 2008 5:12 PM

tnmats said:

What is it with that state?  They botched the election in 2000 so you'd think they would have figured it out by now.  We've been using optical scanner-based ballot systems in North Carolina for decades and I never hear of fiascoes like that here.  I went for early voting here in the Raleigh area and while the line was somewhat long (about 40 min. to get to the polling booth), the poll workers had an exceptionally well organized system and were moving people in a quick and orderly fashion.  Florida officials need to visit NC and get some lessons on how to run an election.

November 4, 2008 5:24 PM

dylanposer said:

miami, palm = heavily/mod. heavily dem

orange=lean dem

sarasota=lean mccain

polk=probably heavily mccain, but new influx of immigration could level things a little

November 4, 2008 5:29 PM

dylanposer said:

GSpinks,

I should add, Miami and Palm and Ornage are urban, so proportionally, they probably brought more new voters to the polls today.  That said, those are votes in duffle bags right now.

November 4, 2008 5:37 PM

ironyroad said:

What rozenson said.  I mean, how hard can it be:

Everything ready for tomorrow?

Sufficient ballots?  Check

Machines operating?  Check

Poll workers as well-trained as possible?  Check

And if something is wrong, do your best to fix it, fast.

Some of these stories may be exaggerated, but the idea that poll workers are clueless about procedure, voters are confronted with defective machinery, or (worse) the polling stations have not made sure they have sufficient ballots in store on Nov 4, as if nobody knew an election was coming, is once again disturbing.

November 4, 2008 5:41 PM

porkido said:

Thanks for the update on the new elections in Zimbabwe...um, Florida is in Zimbabwe, right?

November 4, 2008 6:17 PM

jfelliott said:

Is it too late to let the South retroactively secede?  They can't even un-fuck their eight year old fuck-ups!

November 4, 2008 6:27 PM

sgraser said:

If only they had some way of knowing how many voters there are in each district.  If only they had some way of knowing when election day is and some time to prepare for it.  This is really sad.  I'm starting to wonder if they really did fake those moon landings.

November 4, 2008 6:53 PM