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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
28.10.2008
What About Bobby, Ctd.

Ross Douthat and Dave Weigel think I'm "completely" and "exactly" wrong, respectively, to write off Bobby Jindal's chances of winning the GOP presidential nomination in 2012. I very much hope they're right, though I remain skeptical. 

Douthat argues that I vastly underestimate

the way Obama's name, ancestry and skin color have dovetailed with other aspects of his background - from his liberation-theology church to the academic-lefty and urban-machine milieu in which he spent much of his early political career - that the GOP would have tried to play up against any Democratic candidate.

This seems to me not only convenient but largely wrong: Liberation theology has barely entered into the presidential season, and all the Muslim, terrorist pal, falsified birth certificate, not "the American president Americans are looking for" garbage of the cycle seems far more closely connected to Obama's "name, ancestry and skin color" than to his "academic-lefty and urban-machine milieu." ("Socialist" probably fits Douthat's explanation a bit better.) As a coverted Hindu whose legal name is still Piyush, whose parents arrived in the states not long before his birth and who attended an Ivy League university, Jindal would be open to many of the same kind of idiot smears directed at Obama, should any of his GOP opponents for the nomination care to make them.

Now it's certainly possible that the second half of Douthat's claim is the more important one, and Jindal's GOP opponents (assuming he runs) won't direct these kinds of smears toward him, which would represent progress of a sort, I suppose. (We only use racial innuendo against Democrats!) But I remain less than sanguine.

Weigel likewise argues that the "only downside" to a Jindal candidacy

is that glowing stories about Jindal's trips to rural Iowa will come along with stories about the oddball conspiracy theorists in his crowds who want to know about his birth certificate and whether he's a member of al Qaeda and whether there's a tape of his wife railing about "whitey" being responsible for the Amritsar massacre.

Again, if such talk truly is limited to "oddball conspiracy theorists," Jindal may have a shot. But if anyone else in the GOP--to pick a name at random, say, Sarah Palin--decides that there's a percentage in quietly cultivating such sentiments, that could pose problems.

At base, I guess I just don't really believe the GOP--and especially what's likely to be left of it if next week's losses are as bad as anticipated--is ready to put an Indian-American at the top of its presidential ticket. (The veep slot is an entirely different story; I think Jindal would be an utter no-brainer.) But I would be absolutely delighted to be proven wrong.

--Christopher Orr

RELATED: Click here for Orr's followup post on Jindal.

Posted: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:52 PM with 7 comment(s)

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jfelliott said:

Oh, I hope Jindal runs.  Two words: Involuntary exorcism.

A presidential candidate who not only believes in demons but believes he has cast them out?  Fuck yeah, I'm all aboard for hijacking that crazy train.

October 28, 2008 4:24 PM

janus said:

Hear, hear on the exorcism train!

I'd recommend taking the time to perfect those arguments for 2016, though. Aside from the knowledge that Palin would be fine taking the racist tack against him, Jindal's aware of his own youth. Why run against a popular incumbent at 41 when you can run in an open Presidential race (anyone think Biden can run at 73 after eight years of gaffes?) at 45 and still be the candidate of youth and vigor?

October 28, 2008 4:38 PM

Androscoggin said:

Again, I really can't imagine this as a serious issue.

My sense is that Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Weekly Standard, National Review, etc., would try to nip any racist conspiracy theorizing about Jindal in the bud. They want an authentic conservative -- Reagan Redux -- and they want to win; and Jindal is ideologically orthodox and looks to me like a winner. Palin may do magical things for Rich Lowery's erogenous zones, but at the moment she seems to be politically toxic among moderates / independents. Jindal is just as conservative, a lot more competent, and about a hundred and fifty times as articulate.

Without Fox News or Rush, I'm not really sure how this stuff would get traction. There are only so many people who read Stormfront. I can't imagine what popular, semi-respectable organs would start spreading racist rumors about Jindal's "shady Indian connections" the way the mainstream right has misled voters about Obama.  And it's hard to imagine a rival Republican like Palin trading in this sort of nonsense (even indirectly) without getting trashed by a number of leading conservative pundits -- and not just David Brooks, George Will, and Ross Douthat.

The only other possible source of rumors would be the activist left. But while I'm 100% sure a Jindal candidacy would spur some idiotic ethnicity-related comments from leftist bloggers and activists, I don't think they'd be all that interested in spreading rumors about him being a "secret Hindu." They'd be much more likely to go after him for being an ultra-conservative and a close ally of the Christian right on social / cultural issues -- which indeed he is.

In short, I'm skeptical how far any of this kind of stuff could get without Fox News and Rush Limbaugh flogging it every day -- and I don't think they would unless they somehow became convinced that Jindal is bad for the GOP. And right now he looks pretty damn good.

October 28, 2008 5:20 PM

kenshap said:

Correct my memory.   Before September,  didn't a few non-right commentators believe Sarah Palin would make a great choice as VP?  Who knows how Jindal will look on the campaign trail.

October 28, 2008 5:47 PM

blackton said:

kenshap, that would be lymon who thought so.

I am not too sure how that exorcism thing will play out, most likely as some kind of drunken frat boy game so I wouldn't get my hopes too high on that one.

October 28, 2008 6:24 PM

dbhuff said:

Jindal and many others (that McCain could have picked) would have been infinitely better for the country than Palin. I think it is very likely that the "Palin was a blithering idiot" stories will come hard and fast after the election. That story about her debate prep was priceless.  Still, to a significant idealogical (socially anyway) contingent of the GOP, competence doesnt' matter, only unsullied belief in a Unites States of God. What we've seen in the last few weeks is several thought leaders for the GOP, member in good standing, ostrasized for coming out and saying the Emporer has no clothes (I wish!) If the GOP continues to purge these elitists and Palinize the party, then it will be doomed to an even worse showing. Somebody somewhere will either provide adult supervision or start a third party of formerly disaffected Republicans. I'm pretty certain that many of the big money men don't really like Palin's theocratic ambitions. I'm in agreement that Jindal's backgroudn won't get nearly the airing that Obama's did, primarily because we just don't have enough bigoted racists on our side.

Anyway, the schism that's developing COULD be mended by Jindal, but not by Palin. This is where he could shine, since the party blind-faithful are hanging on.

October 28, 2008 8:40 PM

The Plank said:

A few last thoughts (promise!) on Bobby Jindal's 2012 prospects and the role race may or may not

October 29, 2008 12:09 PM