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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
17.10.2008
Today's Polls: Holding Pattern

In Chuck Todd we trust; all others must bring data. And right now, we're in something of a holding pattern waiting to see the next turn in the race. Obama's momentum has possibly stalled out, but probably has not yet begun to reverse itself. It's also possible that Obama's momentum was on the verge of reversing itself before Wednesday night's debate, but that the debate was enough to hold McCain off or perhaps even shift things further in Obama's direction. Furthermore, it's possible that the numbers will simply flatline until November 4 as Obama runs out McCain's clock (with no more major events on the campaign calendar, this may in fact be the most likely possibility). We will probably know a lot more about this race by Sunday or Monday, once the impacts of the debate are fully accounted for.



At the state level, we have some interesting numbers on both sides. SurveyUSA is the first pollster in a couple weeks to give McCain in Florida; they have him ahead there 49-47. On the other hand, SurveyUSA has yet to show Obama with a lead in Florida all year, so this may not be as newsworthy as it seems at first glance.

Obama, meanwhile, had a very good day in the Rasmussen polling in Colorado, Nevada and particularly Missouri. As Chuck Todd said on MSNBC a moment ago, Obama may have something of a firewall in Colorado and perhaps Nevada between his strength among Hispanics and the fact that this is probably the weakest region of the country for McCain's ground game. Missouri, meanwhile, has been working itself up the tipping point state list, as Obama's numbers has been improving recently in what we call the "Highlands" region spanning the Ozarks and Appalachians. At a gut level, I think Missouri is one of Obama's tougher states, but remember that Claire McCaskill closed strongly there in 2006, and that Obama closed strongly there on Super Tuesday.

Oh -- and another poll shows a dead heat in North Dakota. Our model remains a bit skeptical as Obama has not gained particularly much ground elsewhere in the Prairie region, but it's probably time for both the public pollsters and the campaigns to get out in the field and take the state's temperature.

--Nate Silver

Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:51 PM with 9 comment(s)

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tomeg said:

Stalled. Not so good. If Obama's momentum does reverse itself (or has reversed as Nate suggests is a possibility) there are still two plus more weeks with no where to go but down nationally, and state by state who knows? McCain may not have enough money now to blanket ads in key places, but if it looks feasible (or even if it doesn't) untold millions will find their way into his campaign's hands, or the Repubs hands, somebody's hands, which could make for another nail biter. I hate nail biters, and I was starting to feel a little comfy that this time wouldn't be one. Obama campaign mailings to me recently have struck a different tone than previously, they're doubling up on pretty please and don't lose hope. A sign?? ugh.

October 17, 2008 8:04 PM

dbhuff said:

As Nate will himself tell you, these always tighten as the race comes closer.

October 17, 2008 8:28 PM

tomeg said:

Reality check (in my own mind) turnout, the effectiveness of an army of Obama volunteers - the campaign has been pumping online and in mailings for supporters to recruit 100,000 new volunteers this week, ending today - hardball street by street organization brainiacs such as Plouffe working 27 hour days until Nov. 4; all will be needed, and a lick of luck. This is how it should be really. Obama remains a gamble for a great many voters who still don't know him well enough to ensure their votes. Many news cycles await, what will they bring?

October 17, 2008 8:57 PM

tomeg said:

Colin Powell is rumored to be ready to endorse Obama on Sunday's Meet the Press. I seriously discount the possibility. He likes to remain above the fray, and he certainly doesn't to endorse if he isn't sure it's a winning bet. Let's say, however, he does endorse Obama. Will that change the game any? I don't think so. Something, some crucial question voters will take into the voting booths, and what might that question be. Interestingly it might be a question of faith, faith that Obama can really be what he wants us to believe he is and will be. After all, he will be the most liberal of Democrats to run in a generation. Already his confidence grows such that he reveals his true thoughts about critical issues such as abortion. I hope he is not being overconfident. We all know what that can deliver a candidate in the way of surprise.

October 17, 2008 9:05 PM

bhunziker said:

With Powell likely endorsing on Sunday on Meet the Press, Obama will regain some momentum, probably enough for a few points.

October 17, 2008 9:17 PM

blackton said:

Tomeg, stalled is fine, you don't believe there is a ceiling for Obama? He is sitting on a seven point lead with a few hundred million to blow through, McCain is grasping for air since he doesn't have much of the 84 million left, the RNCC has to defend tons of Senate and Congressional seats as well so they will be scrapped for cash. Early voting has begun, Obama is racking up huge margins already, which will feed on itself. Republicans are getting desperate so they have to throw the most outrageous libels just to get free media, but Palin saying she is happy to visit pro-American parts of the country (red states) ain't going to play well in the blue. Obama already has one red state locked up in Iowa (McCain is hated there, Palin only brings in the fundies)

Anyway, Obama is not the most liberal to run in a generation. They said the same about Kerry, about Gore, about Dukakis, they even said it about Clinton. Same old tired song. The most liberal to run in the primary season was Kuchinich. Obama is a pragmatist, you know it and I know it.

October 17, 2008 9:43 PM

wkwami said:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com:

So a canvasser goes to a woman's door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she's planning to vote for. She isn't sure, has to ask her husband who she's voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, "We're votin' for the n***er!"

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: "We're voting for the n***er."

In this economy, racism is officially a luxury. How is John McCain going to win if he can't win those voters? John Murtha's "racist" western Pennsylvania district, where this story takes place, is some of the roughest turf in the nation. But Barack Obama is on the ground and making inroads due to unusually strong organizing leadership...

October 17, 2008 10:22 PM

psantillana said:

St. Louis, my friends!

October 18, 2008 2:17 PM

psantillana said:

October 18, 2008 3:46 PM