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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
05.10.2008
Today's Polls: Still Smooth Sailing for Obama

Barack Obama has risen to his highest-ever level in both our electoral college and popular vote projections, principally on the strength of his commanding lead in the national tracking polls. Gallup, Rasmussen and Hotline each have Obama ahead by 7 points, and Research 2000 has him up by 12 (Battleground, which has generally had the most conservative numbers for Obama, does not publish on the weekend). Whether or not the McCain campaign's new round of attacks will have a significant impact on Obama's numbers we shall see, but they're going to have to knock him off a fairly high pedestal.

There is state polling out today in Minnesota, Colorado and Ohio. In Minnesota, the Star Tribune has Obama ahead by 18, quite a contrast from SurveyUSA's contemporaneous poll which had McCain up by 1. Yesterday, I discussed the disparities between these two polls on the senate side, and it is not surprising that the presidential numbers have followed suit. Our model projects Obama to win Minnesota by 8-9 points, roughly in between the SurveyUSA and Star Tribune estimates.

In Colorado, Mason-Dixon -- polling for the Denver Post -- has the race tied at 44-44. Mason-Dixon's polls have had a statistically significantly Republican lean thus far this cycle, and so it's not terribly surprising to see their numbers a couple of points to the McCain side of other recent polling of the state. Nevertheless, there have now been a couple of different polls coming out in Colorado -- ARG, Ciruli, and last Monday's Rasmussen number -- suggesting that the race there may have tightened a bit.

Lastly, in Ohio, the Columbus Dispatch has Barack Obama ahead by 7. It's a good number for Obama, but not one that should be taken very seriously, as the Dispatch poll is conducted by mail and has not been very reliable in the past. Still, the notion that Ohio was somehow immune from Obama's recent bounce is rapidly losing credibility.

--Nate Silver

Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 6:03 PM with 9 comment(s)

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The Stump said:

Update 6:15pm : Consider this poll with Nate Silver's qualms in mind. It's Obama 49-42 over McCain

October 5, 2008 6:16 PM

mcorey.geo said:

My interpretation? The Palin choice has been an unmitigated disaster. It made choosing the seasoned and grizzled old Senate lion look RISKIER than the half-black community organizing firebrand.  It thoroughly turned the experience argument (always McCain's strongest hand) ON ITS HEAD. Man, what a dumb move.

October 5, 2008 6:48 PM

lsernoff said:

The bounce for Obama is due entirely to the economic crisis.  Mr. and Mrs. America have, to-date, blamed the entire mess on the Republicans.  If they continue to do so, Obama and the Democrats will win in a landslide.

Before the crisis, Mr. and Mrs. America were mad at Wall Street, Angelo Mozillo, his ilk and his minions, and ordinary people who lied about their finances and occupations to get houses they couldn't hope to afford.  Now, they are mainly mad at Wall Street.  Before the crisis, they were offended by class politics, the Black Caucus's self-obsession, and the "laisser-faire" wing of the Republican party.  Now, they are mainly mad at the "laisser-faire" Republicans.  Before, they were a little frightened by Obama's liberalism; now they are a little frightened by McCain's ostensible conservatism.  

Most important, Obama, inherently a critic of much that has happened in this country in the last quarter century, suddenly looks more like a calm optimist, and McCain, whose bedrock appeal has been to tradition and patriotism, looks more like an angry crank, trying to be both Taft and TR.  Optimists win; ask FDR, Reagan and...................Barry Goldwater.

Is this sudden shift in opinion entirely fair or entirely rational?  Of course not.  Will it last?  This Republican wouldn't bet on McCain figuring out the right way to reverse it.  

October 5, 2008 7:30 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

"The bounce for Obama is due entirely to the economic crisis.  Mr. and Mrs. America have, to-date, blamed the entire mess on the Republicans.  If they continue to do so, Obama and the..."

In one sense, OK.  This will be the right wing shtick, its just clearly not the whole truth or even the major truth.

McCain's numbers started freefalling once he picked Palin - facts are inconvenient things.  Despite the fact that the media is studiously trying to ignore this (which is getting funny), the vast majority of Americans are offended by this woman.  She's awful in ten ways and his is what started the downfall.

The Wall Street collapse speeded it up and will continue to - the failure of right wing ideology is obvious and complete. But Palin was the fuel to the fire and no amount of bullshi**ing will cover that up.

Once again:  I said from day 1 that McCain will rue the day that he ever layed eyes n her.  She's the personification of his selling his soul  - a walking ID.

October 5, 2008 8:09 PM

AlanSP said:

Wandrey, that's not actually true.  McCain's numbers went up after he picked Palin, with that and the convention vaulting him into a brief lead.  That bounce had faded a bit by the time the financial crisis took center stage, but the polls were very close at that point.   Palin might have compounded the problem by using the Couric interview to try to convince Americans that she was completely out of her depth, but the root issue moving the polls is the financial crisis.

October 5, 2008 8:37 PM

Crock1701 said:

Alan, Wandrey, I think in a way you're both right,  Palin gave McCain a convention bounce of conservatives coming home and people intrigued by her cultural populism.  However,  the financial crisis wiped out McCain's bounce.  Moreover, Palin contributed to the public perception of McCain's erratic behavior and overall lack of seriousness (espec. with the Couric interview).  Obama/Biden were serious, talked about real issues, and in short, looked and acted Presidential.  Palin, for all her expectation beating, lost the debate anyway because the American people, thanks to the crisis, got sober and are looking for serious answers.  That's why I think McCain's negative month won't work: Just because a bailout bill passed doesn't mean the Economy's rosy.  If McCain thinks he can pivot away from that to minutia, I think the average voter will laugh him out of the country:  These are serious times, and people get it.  So does the Obama campaign.  The only one that doesn't?  John McCain.

October 5, 2008 10:12 PM

JEFF FREY said:

"The bounce for Obama is due entirely to the economic crisis."

Not quite true. That was the trigger, of course, but you can't underestimate the damage McCain did to himself with his erratic behavior over the last couple of weeks. Swinging from "the fundamentals are sound" to we are in a crisis to I'm suspending my campaign to taking credit for the deal an hour before it was voted down. His behavior was bizarre and really does call into question his fitness for the office.

October 5, 2008 10:49 PM

teplukhin2you said:

OK, then it's 90% due to the financial mess. Out political class is inept and corrupt. Time to throw the bums out. Independent voters especially get this. Unless  a miracle happens and hiring, credit, home sales etc do a 180 in the next two weeks, this one's over. Won't be close.

October 6, 2008 1:23 AM

Political Animal said:

MONDAY'S CAMPAIGN ROUND-UP....Today's installment of campaign-related news items that wouldn't generate a post of their own, but may be of interest to political observers: * Joe Biden's mother-in-law, Bonny Jean Jacobs, died yesterday at the age of 78

October 6, 2008 12:01 PM