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26.09.2008
When Pat Buchanan Thinks You've Been Mean...

CNN's Pat Buchanan just suggested John McCain may have come off as "mean." Ouch. That's a little like Bill Kristol accusing somebody of elitism. Oh wait...

For the record, Buchanan still thought McCain won the debate. Pundit consensus, and what network polling I've seen, seems to be leaning in the other direction--although virtually everybody seems to think neither candidate delivered a crushing blow.

Personally, I have no idea who won. I'm not even sure I know what "won" means.

What I do know is this: On domestic policy, the area I know best, the debate gave viewers a pretty clear sense of where the two candidates stand.

McCain thinks he can fix the economy by eliminating earmarks, which are a tiny portion of the federal budget and have, at best, a tiny impact on middle class living standards. He also wants to implement a tax reform that will run up tons of red ink, mostly for the sake of giving a windfall to very wealthy people who have already pocketed the benefits of the Bush tax cuts.  

Obama thinks it will take a lot more than that to alleviate economic insecurity: He thinks it takes investments in education, health care, and clean energy. And he'll pay for that--or at least part of that--by raising taxes on the wealthtiest Americans, while giving tax relief to the poor and middle class.

About the only other thing that seemed to come across was temperament. McCain is more emotional, Obama more cerebral--in each case, for better and for worse.

But that fact, like the two candidates' policy positions, hardly qualify as news to anybody who's followed this campaign.

--Jonathan Cohn 

Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:48 PM with 8 comment(s)

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mcgumbleton said:

Keith Olberman is the first person I've seen highlight the fact that Pakistan is not actually a "failed state" like McCain said - and he got the leader of Pakistan wrong - That's a HUGE mistake and nobody pointed it out.

September 26, 2008 11:05 PM

liberal reformer said:

Barack is more cerebral but the question is what type of cerebral. There are those who cogitate as a prelude to action and those who cogitate as a precusor to negotiation based on some elusive high-mindedness. John McCain is too prickly and Obama is too "cool". McCain on points.

September 26, 2008 11:05 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

McCain's sneering makes him look immature not mean, its beyond distracting to his cause.  Minus that, he'd have at least tied Obama.  Sneering petulance is an awful quality in a President!  

But he is a Republican and they do seem to love that quality these days, so what do I know.  I also don't know how they can stand to listen to someone mention a dead President over and over again as their savior, like he's still alive sitting in the audience.  Its creepy. It's 2008!

September 26, 2008 11:31 PM

Nippers said:

And, lib reb,  there are those who pontificate as a prelude to obfuscating, and those who obfuscate as a prelude to extemporizing, and those who extemporize as a prelude to expectorating, and those who expectorate as a prelude to defecation, and there are those who defecate. Often. On multiple threads.

This debate was a Rorschach test. I liked Obama because I like Obama. But McCain didn't make a total ass of himself like his running mate has. So I guess if  you set the bar Palin-low, it was for McCain a triumph. If you make the bar presidentially high, a draw at best, though I'd give it to Obama. I mean remember, he's supposed to be the newcomer, the risky guy, all that. He held his own, and then some.

September 26, 2008 11:38 PM

liberal reformer said:

If you set the bar Nippers-high, Obama won in a crawl.

September 27, 2008 12:22 AM

Nippers said:

NO! Lib Ref! Don't do that! Don't set the bar Nippers-high! As fun as a Nippers-high sounds!  (Like a contact high with nibbles and bites.) Why not? Because Nippers knows that the Nippers bar is a low one. Why else would he be spending his Friday night responding to Lib Ref? Quoth:

"Nippers, the second on my list, was a whiskered, sallow, and, upon the whole, rather piratical-looking young man. . . . I always deemed him the victim of two evil powers—ambition and indigestion. The ambition was evinced by a certain impatience of the duties of a mere copyist, an unwarrantable usurpation of strictly professional affairs, such as the original drawing up of legal documents. The indigestion seemed betokened in an occasional nervous testiness and grinning irritability, causing the teeth to audibly grind together over mistakes committed in copying; unnecessary maledictions, hissed, rather than spoken, in the heat of business; and especially by a continual discontent with the height of the table where he worked. Though of a very ingenious mechanical turn, Nippers could never get this table to suit him. He put chips under it, blocks of various sorts, bits of pasteboard, and at last went so far as to attempt an exquisite adjustment by final pieces of folded blotting-paper. But no invention would answer. If, for the sake of easing his back, he brought the table lid at a sharp angle well up towards his chin, and wrote there like a man using the steep roof of a Dutch house for his desk:—then he declared that it stopped the circulation in his arms. If now he lowered the table to his waistbands, and stooped over it in writing, then there was a sore aching in his back. In short, the truth of the matter was, Nippers knew not what he wanted."

September 27, 2008 12:44 AM

blackton said:

Nippers, brilliant. what is that quote from?

I am with Wandrey, I used to like McCain but a few times yelled asshole at him. Bush in 2000 did a much better job.

September 27, 2008 2:28 PM

fougasseu said:

Was that salty John channeling Nathan "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" Jessep?

What a martinet. I thought Curtis LeMay was dead. Oh well, I guess America had to finally see what every Democrat has known for a very long time. This schoolyard bully is temperamentally unfit to be President.

Stop mincing and parsing, Mr. Brooks and Mr. Will, get it over with and declare what you know in your heart of hearts. The McCain of 2000 is long gone, McCain '08 is a different critter, a close-to-crazy muzzle-loader who needs to exit, immediately.

Time for a Change.

September 27, 2008 4:45 PM