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26.09.2008
Has the McCain Campaign Broken Sarah Palin?

Ezra Klein (and pretty much anyone else who's watched the Palin-Couric interviews) asks, "What's happened to Sarah Palin?"

The fact that Palin's responses to questions are becoming increasingly incoherent rather than rapidly more polished is interesting. Rote memorization should have all but eliminated the overlay of nonsense in her answers by now.

I don't pretend to have any first- (or second- or third-) hand knowledge of why it is that Palin's performance in the Katie Couric interviews was so much worse than her performance with Charlie Gibson just a couple of weeks ago. But I've been wondering for a while now just how Palin would hold up under what amounts to a constant, emphatic vote of no confidence from the McCain campaign.

Put yourself in her shoes for a moment. She was an ambitious, confident young pol with some impressive political accomplishments in her home state who, one can guess, had aspirations for taking her brand national at some point but not for at least a few more years. Though versed in the issues facing Alaska, she'd spent vanishingly little time considering the issues facing the rest of the country. (And, as someone who's been to Alaska a few times and even co-owned land there for a while, I think I can say that issue terrain is very different.)

She's unexpectedly plucked from obscurity by the McCain campaign and, after a couple of rough days of media vetting, she gives a speech at the GOP convention--the first speech she's ever given with anything approaching this level of prominence--and is universally declared to have hit it out of the park. She is anointed a "political superstar" by every talking head who can get to a microphone.

Now, I don't know Sarah Palin (obviously), but at this point I suspect she envisioned the next several weeks as a continuation of her coming-out-party/victory-tour. She'd do packed events before cheering members of the GOP base (something she has in fact done), but she'd be a superstar in all the other typical ways, too. She'd be ubiquitous on the tube, doing the "Tonight Show" and "Good Morning America," and, who knows, maybe even the political shows. She'd be so forthright and funny and charming and genuine that the whole country would fall in love with her. She'd be followed by a media throng that hung on her every word.

Instead, she hasn't been allowed to give them a word to hang on: no press conferences (until one yesterday that hardly merited the term), a couple of scripted, softbally interviews, and an ongoing effort by the McCain campaign to have her vice presidential debate postponed indefinitely. The obvious implicit message her preppers and coddlers and protectors in the campaign are giving her is: You're not ready. We don't trust you. You have no idea what you're talking about. Don't ever open your mouth unless you've cleared it with us or you might destroy the whole campaign. These are not pleasant things to hear, and Palin has presumably been hearing them (again, by implication) every day for weeks now.

When I compare Palin's performance with Gibson to her performance with Couric, the biggest difference I see is confidence. With Gibson, she obviously lacked the knowledge one expects at this level, but she seemed to have a glib faith that she could bluff her way through. She may not have answered many of his questions directly, but her evasions were, for the most part, perfectly articulate and comprehensible. In the Couric interviews, by contrast, she often seemed to be stringing along buzz words and sentence fragments that even she recognized to be gibberish. With Gibson, she was tap dancing; with Couric she was drowning.

I'm reminded of the situation you see every now and then in sports, when a talented athlete--which, conveniently enough, Palin was--gets a taste of heavy duty coaching and, rather than being built up, is broken down, losing confidence in his game, becoming tentative, second-guessing himself even to the point of paralysis. I don't know whether that's what's happened to Sarah Palin. But from where I sit, it sure looks like it.

-- Christopher Orr

Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:48 AM with 36 comment(s)

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thetraytiger said:

I think you've nailed it, Chris. It's what you get when you think through the logical consequences of treating your running mate like a "delicate flower who might wilt at any moment."

September 26, 2008 11:15 AM

icarusr said:

Or, she's just an airhead and the more she reads and is told, the more she forgets.  I've seen that in young counsel who overreach, who have no sense of their own capacity, who bristle at the thought that they are not ready, who then, before a court appearance, cram information in the place of insight, and then, BAM, the appearance becomes a disaster.

I don't think Palin even understands that she is not doing well.  Her "I don't know, uh, reporters." was classic.  And, of course, it is a lot easier for a trollop like her to charm men; faced with a strong, sceptical woman, of course her charm, "Charlie, Charlie, Charlie" breaks down.  Yeah, sure, Zardari gets a hard-on seeing her; she could have had him giving him the nukes (and then going back home and being assassinated the day after); but Katie?  That's where the breakdown was, not any show of lack of confidence by the McCainiacs.

September 26, 2008 11:26 AM

tomeg said:

Vice Presidents don't matter.

September 26, 2008 11:28 AM

eateneye said:

I definitely agree.  I was watching a clip of her talking about the bailout package and it looked like she was ready to cry. You could also tell by the tone of Couric's questioning that she seemed to feel kind of bad for Palin.  Compare this to the Gibson interview where Palin was able to keep up her smile and confidence even when Gibson caught her on the Bush Doctrine. Of course, I would feel more sympathy for Palin if she hadn't been so arrogant and condescending at every possible moment about how easy it is to be Vice President and how you don't really need any experience except to spend time in relative proximity to foreign nations.  I'm hoping to see McCain get his comeuppance as well in these upcoming debates.  Hopefully the constant pressure of being asked about the lies he's been spouting will make him crack, too.

September 26, 2008 11:32 AM

nathang said:

Unless they become presidents, which they often do in a crisis.

September 26, 2008 11:46 AM

drdannyu said:

Even my office's token conservative, who just a couple of weeks ago was goading me with Palin's popularity, had conceded that she is clearly not ready to be VP.  This guy voted for W. twice.

September 26, 2008 11:46 AM

woland said:

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO Orr!!!!  

What the hell is the matter with you people making up excuses for Palin like this?  No, it is not the McCain campaign's fault that Palin is a gibbering idiot, it is HER!  They tried their level best to turn this idiot into a proper parrot but it couldn't be done because she is too dumb.

Look at her record people!  Who the hell who does not have financial/personal difficulties takes 5 or 6 years going to like 4 or 5 different schools to graduate with their BA in sports journalism?  And is it that much of a surprise that a high functioning moron (thanks Paul Begala for that phrase) like Palin could be elected mayor of the tiny Alaskan town she grew up in and then governor of Alaska?  

She was a damn state beauty queen and state basketball hero with personal magnatism and an awesome husband in a tiny town she grew up in so there should be no surprise about her assent there to mayor.

She failed in her lieutenant governor bid and then got a post as head of the state oil and gas commission as a door prize.  According to one person who knew about her time there whose account I read, Palin hated doing all the work required there and basically quit on the EXCUSE that a government official she was working with was corrupt.  It turns out her allegations were correct and she reaps the benefit of being one of the few REPUBLICAN corruption crusaders in a redder than red state rife with corruption.  Palin then rides this anti-corruption wave into the governor's chair.

As governor she is absentee most of the time, works from home, and her husband is intimately involved in helping her out running the state.  Palin benefits from energy profits and uses the money derived to send big fat rebate checks to Alaskans.  Red state Alaska loves her.  John McCain meets her for like an hour and picks her as his VP.

As VP, her signature act is a speech that she, a former T.V. sports broadcaster mind you, after several days of practice mind you, reads off a teleprompter that has the appropriate words underlined for emphasis and moments for dramatic pauses laid in.  Delegates with hockey mom signs stand poised to errupt on cue when the famous lipstick line is delievered.   She is hailed by conservative talking heads as the next Ronald Reagan and liberal talking heads and the Obama campaign have no counter because no one knows who the hell she is yet.  All hail Palin!

Given this backstory, is it any surprise to anyone that Palin was possibly a high functioning moron?  Before she opened her mouth for interviews I had a strong suspcion but no proof.  Just read and listen to her answers to Couric and Gibson.  These are not the answers of an intelligent person who is simply nervous or afraid of saying the wrong thing.  After all, from the time of her beauty queen days she has loved being the center of everyone's attention no doubt.  What these interviews told me was that Palin cannont think on her feet.  That she cannot formulate coherrent thoughts in her head on subjects she is not intimately familar with or on subjects she is not properly coached to answer.  That she actually doesn't understand that the whole Alaska proximity to Russia foreign policy experience point was a talking point sop to stupid people and not a serious point to argue seriously in an interview.  Wake up Orr!  Wake up you apologists!  When I was in high school I could have given more coherent answers to Gibson's and Couric's questions.  Palin is an out and out dumb dumb.

September 26, 2008 12:05 PM

blackton said:

The way she condescendingly said, Hey, Alaska is next to Russia, as though Couric and America needed a lesson in Geography, shows she is still a high school cheerleader at heart who has been surrounded by sycophants for a long time. Has she exhibited a sense of humour about herself once? I honestly can't feel remotely sorry for her. I think the reason McCain has kept her under wraps because his people probably got to know her and realize she really is in over her head.  Legally blonde might make a cute comedy, but legally Palin is a horror movie.

September 26, 2008 12:06 PM

grandtheory said:

Tomeg, in the past, presidential candidates haven't mattered that much in electing the top of the ticket. However, the role of the VP has changed dramatically in the last decade. Not only did Al Gore go on to become the most prominent environmental spokesperson in the world, which I believed raise that status of the VP position, but let's not forget the principal force behind the Bush Administration: Dick Chaney. I don't have any hard numbers to prove this, but I think Americans have a raised level of expectations regarding VP White House activity as a result of these actors. This, coupled with McCain's age and Palin's lack of exposure, has really put a spotlight on the vice presidency this election season. Joe Biden's gaffs just don't stick because Obama is not dependent or easily crippled by him. This is not the case for McCain/Palin.

September 26, 2008 12:16 PM

raylward said:

icarusr makes a very good point.  I too have observed many over-confident youg lawyers come crashing down to earth when faced with the reality of law practice.  It's an over-confidence, arrogance really, not matched with knowledge or experience that Palin revealed in the interviews, something shared by the young MBAs on Wall Street whose inadequacies were, unfortunately, revealed only after all the damage had been done.  Now we know about Palin before she is elected to a position in which she too can inflict catastropic damage, so the fault will be ours if we let her do it.

September 26, 2008 12:31 PM

The Ignorant Populist said:

Great post Chris. I was thinking the exact same thing today.

September 26, 2008 12:32 PM

The Stump said:

Chris , I have a different theory about why Sarah Palin has gotten more, not less, rattled in the spotlight

September 26, 2008 12:35 PM

michael said:

Confidence (security, motivation) can be the necessary edge. But the absence of skill, experience, preparation and execution will reveal how shallow courage is...Nope, when one can only rely on emotions or will to win and a great attitude, they are a disaster waiting to happen.

When "talented" (the individual or a team) is assigned before we have a quantitative measure that "talent" exists? Sure, we blame the failure on anything but the candidate or athlete who is in over their head.

I agree that younger people need to rely upon emotion because they are still developing and proving to themselves they possess the tools which or have yet to refine and perfect that which will carry them through a bad spell. Every pro has spell which is longer and more of a confidence breaker than the past week of Palin's melt. I mean severe injury, serious losing streaks, a long slump and the worst coaches don't bring down hard a earned will to win. The last two teams in the Super Bowl were run by certified pricks, bullies and confidence wreckers but for the "talent" of the players. Neither the Pats or Giants tolerated fuck-ups.

A soldier, professional athlete and VP candidate should be tested and proved durable because confidence is a result of learning from and trusting previous 'tests'. That which might destroy a novice is the reason why we use terms like battle hardened or tested by adversity. A national candidate who can be shaken or shattered by a few interviews where her answers were wrong, naive or mumbo-jumbo can't blame anyone for ruining her confidence. Her confidence was misplaced and her attitude allowed her to go where "talent" would have said, "Nope, I know better. I'm in too deep and need to shut up."

September 26, 2008 12:45 PM

dmend said:

maybe she is just the reincarnation of miss south carolina

September 26, 2008 1:03 PM

thejauntyboulevardier said:

what, no inane jacobtl non sequitur in response?

September 26, 2008 2:01 PM

ironyroad said:

Maybe jacob's busy trying to iron the cat.  Let me try:

"A national candidate who can be shaken or shattered by a few interviews where her answers were wrong, naive or mumbo-jumbo can't blame anyone for ruining her confidence" says michael.

Obama who can be shaken shattered by a few answers how about blaming naive or mumbo-jumbo anyone ruining confidence!

September 26, 2008 2:18 PM

woland said:

Michael, good point about realizing you are in too deep.  Intelligent inexperienced people realize when they are getting in too deep and don't jump in.  Idiots like Palin are oblivious to this.

To cut her a little bit of slack though, what also encouraged Palin to make this jump is the whole anti-intellectualism of conservatives over the last decade.  You know, the philosophy that says any Tom, Dick, Harry, or Jane with "good old fashion commonsense" can handle the most powerful and resposibility-laden job in the world.  This anti-intellectualism no doubt made an ignoramous like Palin believe she could be Vice President.  The best thing that can come out of the twin disasters of the high functioning morons of Bush and Palin is that conservatives might just be finally cured of this.  

September 26, 2008 2:50 PM

blackton said:

irony, brilliant.

September 26, 2008 3:00 PM

JosephCuomo said:

Chris Orr-

You write: "When I compare Palin's performance with Gibson to her performance with Couric, the biggest difference I see is confidence. . . . With Gibson, she was tap dancing; with Couric she was drowning. I'm reminded of. . .a talented athlete. . .[who] gets a taste of heavy duty coaching and, rather than being built up, is broken down, losing confidence in his game. . ."

The explanation for Palin's implosion with Couric may be much simpler than this, Chris. It may not have much to do with the quality of coaching she's received from McCain's handlers. It may simply be that Gibson is (and is widely perceived to be) a goofy, professorial, faux-intellectual man. Couric, on the other hand, is not (and is not widely perceived to be) an intellectual, or a snob, or an elitist, or even an exceptionally gifted, or exceptionally competent, political journalist.

My guess is that Palin knows (or at least thinks she knows) how to handle a snarky, overconfident man, especially one who underestimates her. Ergo: SP's apparent confidence in the interview with Gibson.

On the other hand, SP can't employ her standard bag of tricks against a woman interviewer, especially a woman who is not perceived to be any brighter than Palin herself. In fact, if there's a postive quality one can attribute to Couric, it would probably be that she is down to earth, accessible, the amiable girl next door. So when Couric asks a very basic question--ie, can you back up your assertion with an example-- she (Couric) doesn't appear condescending or patronizing or superior; she appears to be asking a reasonable question.

And when Palin was asked a reasonable question by a reasonable, amiable, female interviewer about a subject one would expect SP--as the VP nominee--to know, she may have felt compelled to hunt for an answer, even though she didn't have one. She may have felt, instinctively, that she couldn't simply play the question off as offensive or presumptuous or snide. In other words, she couldn't make the personality of the interviewer (revealed in his disrespectful questions) the subject of the interview.

And this might have been what truly threw her off her game.

September 26, 2008 3:07 PM

tembrach said:

I thought  Palins interview with Couric last night was pretty good.  She stood by Israel and against Iran.  She spoke of the need to suport a surge in Afghanistan. Both had a bit more substance to them than anything uttered by, say, Chris Dodd antyime this week.

She is smart, and articulate and still confident. Don't count her out. I have a feeling she will school Biden in the debates.

September 26, 2008 3:35 PM

psantillana said:

What woland said with the NO NO NO, and everything else. Also what J.Cuomo said, and I'm suprised they let her do that, but then they probably underestimated Couric - HAH!

Look, she's just plain BAD. Alaska is third rate, I'm sorry.  I first started to realize this when I took their bar exam and it was riddled with typos and grammatical errors.  It's just . . . challenged. The fact that she rose to such status there is a horrible reflection on the state, and now a horrible reflection on the GOP.

September 26, 2008 4:29 PM

janus said:

Whatever tembrach is smoking, I want some.

September 26, 2008 4:38 PM

woland said:

Tembrach you should not be allowed to vote if you weren't pulling an icarusr.

Jack Cafferty on CNN just backed me up!  

Cafferty: Did you get that? If John McCain wins this woman will be one 72-year old' heartbeat away from the presidency. AND IF THAT DOESN'T SCARE THE HELL OUT OF YOU, IT SHOULD...[turning to WOLF] I'm 65 and have been covering politics for a long time - that's one of the most pathetic pieces of tape I have ever seen from someone aspiring to one of the highest offices in the country. That's all I have to say.

Wolf: She's been cramming a lot of information --

Cafferty: [interrupting] There is NO excuse for that, she's supposed to know a little bit of this. Don't make excuses for her. That's pathetic.

Wolf: It was not her best answer.

THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT!

September 26, 2008 4:59 PM

nextwave said:

I think Orr's theory is wrong.

For one thing, Couric's questioning was just way better than Gibson's (see James Fallows.)

Also, this idea that there's a smart person inside this dumb person we all see is pretty ridiculous - Kathryn Lopez at National Review is pushing this, so that's you best clue as to the credibility of this notion.

And last, so what?

Getting  this rattled, so easily, that you seem stupid, even answering questions from a sycophant like Hannity, is just one more reason why Palin should not be anywhere near the White House.

In fact, I think this idea that she turns into a dope under pressure, if it were true, just might be the BEST reason that she isn't qualified.

September 26, 2008 6:02 PM

nextwave said:

Couric asked the devastating questions that Gibson did not.

For example, you said that being able to see Russia from Alaska is a foreign policy qualification.

What did you mean by that?

And here is James Fallows:

...Couric displayed one brilliant technique I recommend to all future questioners.  When Palin ducked a question about financial-bailout provisions, saying that "John McCain and I" had not yet reached a decision, Couric asked the deadly question: "So what are the pros and cons?" There is no way to fake your way around that. As Palin showed.

September 26, 2008 6:08 PM

nextwave said:

Palin is stupid.

There, that wasn't so hard, was it?

September 26, 2008 6:10 PM

JosephCuomo said:

psantillana-

Thanks for the kind words.

___________________________________________________________________________

woland-

You write: ". . .what also encouraged Palin to make this jump [in over her head] is the whole anti-intellectualism of conservatives over the last decade. . . .[which] no doubt made an ignoramous like Palin believe she could be Vice President.  The best thing that can come out of the twin disasters of the high functioning morons of Bush and Palin is that conservatives might just be finally cured of this."

While I agree that there is a huge and long standing wave of anti-intellectualism within the GOP base (and within the culture at large), I would guess that what is driving Palin is not a negative, not an anti, but her own Pentecostal faith. Which is to say, believers like SP really trust that it is indeed God's will that whatever happens to them happens. And so if Palin sees an opening to become mayor of a small town, or governor of a backwater state, or vice president of the most powerful country on earth, it's all the same thing to her; it's God's plan unfolding before her eyes.

Watch the tapes (on youtube) of Palin speaking at her old church (the Pentecostal church in which she was baptized as a teen, and which she attended until 2002, when she first began to seek state-wide office), the Wasila Assembly of God church in June of this year, and you'll see her talk about God's will and God's plan in these terms--that it is possible to know exactly what it is that God wills, even in the political realm, and to know this in advance.

All of which is to say, as long as the GOP base is largely comprised of Pentecostals and Fundamentalists, no amount of (intellectual) gaffes with (secular) interviewers is going to cure this constituency of its anti-intellectualism, its sense of smug self-righteousness, or its wild presumptions about the (specifically political) nature of God's will.

September 26, 2008 6:17 PM

The Plank said:

Today's been busy, between the bailout machinations and debate news, so we've decided to roundup

September 26, 2008 6:20 PM

woland said:

I agree J. Cuomo that the fundamentalists in the conservative movement will never change their anti-intellectualism.  Let's all...um...pray that their influence  over the Republican Party will be greatly diminished after this Palin fiasco and the other parts of the Party put them back in their subordinate place.

(If in fact there are any other parts of the Republican Party still around!)

September 26, 2008 8:00 PM

JosephCuomo said:

woland-

I agree that we can only hope that the Palin fiasco will greatly diminish the influence of Pentecostals and Fundamentalists within the GOP.

But when it comes to believing that one is an agent of God's will, when it comes to anti-intellectualism, and lack of experience, and the denigration of expertise, when it comes to cronyism and secrecy and disregard for the simple notion of truth, Sarah Palin is George W. Bush in drag.

And, unfortunately, the fiasco of Bush--the ongoing fiasco of the past eight years--has not in any real sense lessened the influence of religious fanatics within the Republican base.

Indeed, for evidence of said influence, for evidence of the continued kowtowing of the GOP to this constituency, one need only point to John McCain's selection of Palin as his VP.

September 26, 2008 8:29 PM

The Plank said:

I don't know John McCain as well as David Brooks does. In fact, I don't know him personally at

September 26, 2008 8:32 PM

jet said:

Chris,

How does your 'Grand Theory of Sounding Awful in Interviews' apply to say, Obama?  How come he doesn't sound shaken during 'tough' interviews?

I mean, tep and the McCain campaign have and had been touting Obama as a serious lightweight.  Now you're making excuses (like JZ) for Palin's poor performance under fire, how does the serious 'novice' Obama not wilt (I know you're not accusing Obama of performing poorly, but you've excused Palin, now explain why Obama, the novice doesn't mess up) during interviews?

(Chris, if you haven't figured it out, I'm suggesting Palin and Obama are light years apart.  And, like others above have said, maybe you shouldn't try to explain why she does bad in an interview, coached or not).  Just say to yourself "shit, she's awful and no one should have put her on the spot like this, she's clearly not ready.")

September 26, 2008 10:53 PM

check said:

the buzz words stand out and we can get a very good idea what she was coached on then. and perhaps what she was coached on  she doesnt quite understand and it is not part of her world.  could this account for why lieberman is always standing with her and why bill crystal suggested her in the first place and why she as visited by aipac in her hotel room and why she mentioned the holocaust  so many times?  the jewish vote and the female vote was the point, articulat or not. however, our family contains one of each, and we are not impressed. in fact we are pissed at the weekly standard right now for very good reason.  mccain is beneath comtempt right now as is lieberman.

September 28, 2008 2:05 PM

weisbardaj said:

I would be more impressed with comments trashing the stupidity of others if those making the comments showed greater command of the English language, including spelling and grammar.

I think the discussion of Gov. Palin has reached, or passed, the point of piling on, becoming mean and sometimes misogynistic. At this point, it is simply beyond doubt that she is out of her depth.

Give it a rest, and focus on more constructive topics.

September 28, 2008 6:19 PM

Lyn39 said:

I think "tembrach" is actually Todd Palin.  Either that, or state-run psychiatric institutes are entirely too liberal about providing internet access to inpatients.

I wish TNR would provide a "You gotta be shittin' me" button beside each comment.  Then I wouldn't have to waste keystrokes.

September 28, 2008 8:04 PM

satyendra said:

i'm not at all a conservative, but I'll try to echo a conservative critique of our society that I often find true.

The other day we were visiting our friends who have a six-year old daughter.  The girl was wearing a medal.  I asked what she won, and was told she hadn't won anything.  I then joked that she must have stolen it.  Not that either, she was given the medal not for participating in some race, but, get this, for merely being a spectator.

I guess the idea is that we must protect little kids against the hurt and jealousy they inevitably feel when someone wins an athletic, academic or talent-based  race, prize or contest.  So everyone gets a medal.  I vehemently disagree and think it's important for the community to recognize and be a sport about others' achievements.

Well, I can't help wondering if some of Palin's supporters are our friends' six year old in grown up bodies.  Deep down they know she's a mediocrity and actually relate to it.  In voting her V. P. they're projecting their sense of entitlement for that medal.

Weisbardaj, in some ways you're right - let's just say she's stupid and get it over with.  Maybe we're being gratuitous.  But she has a chance of becoming President with McCain's age and all, so we need to get out there all the ways in which she's stupid.  Besides which, I really love watching her stumble.  She's someone I love to hate, and there aren't many like that for me.  (At times I've loved to hate Tom Cruise).

September 28, 2008 10:25 PM