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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
24.09.2008
Today's Polls: Showcase Showdown

Barack Obama has had another strong day in the state polling, holding leads in the states where he needs to hold them. John McCain, however, was able to hedge against this by ticking upward by a point or so in the national tracking polls, making the overall trend about neutral. Still, there is a lot of eye candy here for Democrats:



The PPP and Quinnipiac polls make it three surveys in a row where Obama has held a statistically significant lead in Colorado. In fact, he appears to have built up a pretty decent-sized lead, with Colorado is now polling between 2 and 3 points ahead of his national numbers.

Suppose that we rank the states from best to worst for Obama, and count up the number of votes we collect along the way. For each state, I'm going to list something called +/-, which is the state's performance relative to the national popular vote projection. That is, since our model projects Obama to win the popular vote by 2.2 points, we'll subtract 2.2 points from each state to get our +/- rating. In other words, this is what we'd expect each state to look like if the national popular vote were tied.



What you see here is that Obama gets up to a 269-269 electoral tie with relative ease. The state that gets him there is Colorado, but Colorado is still polling more than two points better than his national numbers. In theory, that means that Obama could lose the national popular vote by 2.2 points and still be even-money to manage an electoral tie.

A tie, of course, is not his optimum result. Although Obama would probably prevail when the vote went to the House, it wouldn't make governance very easy. The 270th electoral vote, however, is more difficult. The best place for it right now looks to be Virginia, which is polling right at the national average. Then you get New Hampshire, which is half a point behind the national numbers, before running into the big behemoths of Florida and Ohio, as well as Nevada.

What's interesting about this scenario is that if all you need is one more electoral vote to break the tie, it doesn't matter where you get it. New Hampshire and its four electoral votes would do just as well as Florida and its 27. Hell, one of the Nebraska Congressional Districts (which don't presently appear to be in play, but none of the recent polling has broken out the numbers) would also do the trick. So, depending on just how solid Obama feels about Colorado, one can argue that his campaign should spend more time focusing on states like New Hampshire and Nevada, which are much cheaper to compete in than Ohio or Florida. The Obama campaign also needs to think about whether it considers a 269-269 tie to be a desirable outcome, since this strategy only makes sense if you're concerned about 270th electoral vote rather than the 269th.

Of course, it's probably too soon to get into this level of detail. But if the gap continues to widen between Colorado and Obama's next-best tier of states, it becomes worth considering.

Obama also got good numbers today in Wisconsin, Florida and the Pacific Northwest. Oregon and Washington just aren't likely to play a starring role this year, or so it seems. Florida, meanwhile, is really starting to nip at Ohio's heels, and the Obama campaign has noticed, ramping up their ad spending in the state.

McCain does get one good result, in Minnesota, where Quinnipiac shows it as just a 2-point race. The model is now starting to take Minnesota seriously as a swing state. It has moved ahead of Wisconsin on McCain's list of targets (remember that Minnesota doesn't share a border with Illinois whereas Wisconsin does). And it may even be on the verge of overtaking Michigan.

So what is it about Minnesota? Well, McCain is spending a ton of ad money there, and Obama isn't. It is sort of McCain's version of Indiana, where the opposite is true. (Although, there is one important distinction: Obama still has a fairly robust ground game in Minnesota, whereas McCain has none in Indiana).

In both Minnesota and Indiana, the candidates are playing a sort of electoral Showcase Showdown: optimal strategy dictates that you want the opponent to come as close as possible without going over, wasting resources on a state where they just can't quite overtake you. As these states have tightened, both campaigns will now have to decide whether they have gotten to the point where they are actually at risk, or whether they want to lay low and induce their opponents to chase good money after bad.

--Nate Silver 

Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:18 AM with 15 comment(s)

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gennitydo said:

Omaha baby!  Get Barack to Omaha.

September 24, 2008 2:44 AM

jobeek2 said:

Useful insights as always.

September 24, 2008 9:36 AM

icarusr said:

The economy is in the tank, 83% of the people think that the country is on the wrong track, the Liberal "Media" are attacking McCain/Palin with sexist and racist lies, and still The One remains tied in the electoral college.  Admit it.  The Far Left of the Democrat Party has yet again nominated a wussy Liberal Elite Wonder Boy with disdain for Real America, and Real America is returning the disdain.  This lightweight politician, the product of the corrupt Chicago machine, is not only going to lose, but will drag the rest of the Democrat Party into the gutter, where the Far Left Liberals belong.  Not up to the job; knows nothing about Foreign Policy, has not even met with World Leaders, like Dear Leader Palin did; his economic solutions are so bad no one is paying attention.*  

[What?  Oh.  OK.]

*His economic policies are a rip off of McCain's brilliant economic policy platform.  Face it, he is not ready.  The Boy just doesn't know his place.  The uppity nig-**

[What?  Oh, right, "hint that he is an uppity nigger, don't say it explicitly."  Sorry, this part of the speaking points was smudged.  Yeah.  Was surfing the net and the wife walked in and, well, nevermind.]

**The Wonder Boy, the One, the Messiah, the Deliverer is simply not up to the job; He does not have "executive" experience; He's not "ready"; He's not "up""to""the""job".

[Was that better?  Yeah, I like the scare quotes.  He he.  Would it be too much to put them around "he"?  Right, I see it now.  "If McCain drops another point."  Sorry, was surfing the net and the boss walked in - you know, got smudged.  WHAT?  What the fuck is Spyware?  SHIT.  Gotta go throw my work computer into the East River.]

September 24, 2008 9:45 AM

willpastor said:

I'm not sure there's been enough NH polling as of late to rank it ahead of Virginia. Plus I'll remind you that the Will Pastor endorsement, Pastor being a key Plank poster in an adjacent state, will count for at least two or three points come election day. Pastor will endorse Obama at a rally in Nashua that will feature Will Pastor, his mother, and possibly Barack Obama.

September 24, 2008 10:09 AM

thejauntyboulevardier said:

Previous close Polls:

Teppy - How can this be? National Democrats should be up in arms! Obama should be leading by more! Sign of his inexperience and lack of credibility bona fides...Dems should be worried.

Today's Wash Po Poll: Obama 52 - McCain 43

Teppy - How can this be? National Democrats aren't runing this high! Obama should not be leading by this much! Sign of his inexperience and lack of credible polling bona fides...Dems should be worried...

eos - silence..which in his case, is indeed golden

jacobtl - The media is biased against a great man like McCain!  How can you marty peretz! (he then goes out to kick his cat but said cat beats him to it by turning the tables, beating the crap out of him, and then stuffing him in a trashcan, which brings back idyllic school yard memories of jacobtl's youth...

September 24, 2008 10:35 AM

cdtruss said:

From Jonah Goldberg today..

"I have no doubt that the Bradley effect is real. But what often gets confused is that the Bradley effect does not reflect racism; it captures voters' fear of appearing racist. There's no reason to assume those who lie to pollsters are the racists. (Actual racists might lie about why they aren't voting for the black candidate, but it's unlikely they would lie about voting for him.) But for Obama supporters and the media, poll results are some kind of sacred, binding covenant. And if voters don't keep their promise, the media have no problem seeing racism at work.

The media's obsession with race in this election is, in fact, probably fueling the Bradley effect. Repeating over and over that voting against Obama is racist only encourages non-racist people to be embarrassed to admit that they plan to vote for McCain."

I certainly feel the pressure to hide my inclination to vote GOP.  How many other voters may be doing the same thing to pollsters?  And I will be disappointed if Obama loses but really don't want rest of party having power.  I just think we are being mislead in polls do to so much reaction by voters to media hype and Obama advocacy.  Many people are embarrassed  expressing  opinions to pollsters.

September 24, 2008 10:47 AM

michael said:

An affiliate ran a package on Republicans in the white flight enclaves north of South Bend. They were meeting and bragging, "Never voted for a Democrat. Been voting since Nixon." Oh, the reason for the chat? They were on board for Barack. I'd not say these people were racist. But if they were, they're taking a couple months off. The is the 2nd toughest group to crack (age-income-party). But, I figured the less affluent Reagan Dems would fold first...who knows?

September 24, 2008 10:55 AM

icarusr said:

Jaunty: Have you read Chesterton's "The Man Who Was Thursday"?

I fear that after a while, you and Yard (and yours truly) will be the only ones trolling Repug lines ...

CDTruss: Is this a parody or are you channelling your inner Jacob?  "I certainly feel the pressure to hide my inclination to vote GOP." Of course, who would want to be *known* to be rooting for a bunch of incompetent lying kleptocrats who have driven the US economy into the tank, lost a city to a hurricane and are losing two wars that should have been walk-overs?  If I were "inclined" to vote GOP, I'd be embarrassed too - enough to see a shrink or make a confession and ask to be set straight.

How did it happen that red meat, bully the weak and beat the homeless, invade small countries and talk tough to allies, cut taxes and entitlements for the poor and suck up to the rich Republicans became such a nation of whiners, who can't even hold their head up high to make their political inclinations known to mechanical pollsters?  How do you propose to stand up to Putin?*

*If your post is an über-clever parody, please ignore the above.

September 24, 2008 11:04 AM

willpastor said:

In irrelevant political news, Newsweek ran the headline "NJ supremacist group distributes anti-Obama fliers." I am extremely uncomfortable with the idea of New Jersey supremacists.

September 24, 2008 11:09 AM

cdtruss said:

icarusr...exactly. My point.  R's and Indies who will pull that lever in privacy are not going to be honest with pollsters in this environment.  Get ready for a shock that will make the Kerry election day returns look like the good ole days.

September 24, 2008 11:36 AM

icarusr said:

Is this a prediction or wishful thinking on your part?  So you mean that the 6% of Republicans who say are voting for Obama are lying?  

September 24, 2008 1:27 PM

icarusr said:

Any way, CD, advertising money is the best measure of relative strength of candidates where they spend it, whether people lie or tell the truth in polling.  This is instructive:  

"And now comes word from Ben "King of the Mini-scoop" Smith of the Politico that the McCain campaign will be spending precious, limited dollars on ads to defend against Barack Obama's possibly stealing Indiana's 11 electoral votes."

Bush won Indiana by 20 points; Indiana has not voted Democratic since 1968.  Maybe you're right; maybe the US is plain racist and people hide their preferences in polls but then swing when they pull the lever; or perhaps people have had enough and don't care what the colour of Obama's skin is as long as they think he and the Democratic Party will actually pay attention to their economic woes.  I am not American, but I have more faith in the American electorate than you.

September 24, 2008 1:39 PM

teplukhin2you said:

jaunty - as I've said consistently, if the election turns on the economy (shtoopid), the Democrat wins. Strong or weak Dem, no matter.

Unless some miracle or act of war moves this slow-motion nightmare on Wall Street off the front pages, the economy will dominate the election. IIRC Pew or someone reported that the economy is now the #1 issue for 47% of voters, vs. Iraq, #2, at a piddling 8%.

It helps Obama that hardly anyone, including, I fear, Hank Paulson, really understands what's going on. Given how massively our political-oligarchical class has f***ed up our nation's finances and financial system, Obama the challenger could parrot Mickey Mouse and still win this election.

September 24, 2008 3:25 PM

teplukhin2you said:

If the mess persists into November, Obama will win by a huge margin.

And no, he doesn't have a f***ing clue as to how to extricate us from it. Doesn't matter now. There's a vacuum at the center of US politics.

September 24, 2008 3:28 PM

cdtruss said:

icarusr.  Not racist but not liberal either.  And yes I think they are lying.  Just like they lied to EXIT pollers in NH right after voting for HRC five minutes before.

September 24, 2008 3:28 PM