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TODAY'S STORIES
05.09.2008
Palin 1, Jefferson 0

Rush Limbaugh enthused about the GOP convention yesterday, saying:

“I did not want that to end last night…I didn’t want the night to end. I didn’t want Rudy to stop. What a night! Folks we have a future beyond November here. Regardless what happens…The convention has been unified on the basis of conservatism. Properly executed, beautifully articulated.”

“Believe me Barack Obama has a lot to fear today and he knows it…the drivebys are in panic, the Democrat Party is in panic, the liberal left is in panic…they do not know who hit them, they do not know who to respond to this.”

“This lady has turned it all around…from now on on this program John McCain will be known as John McBrilliant.”

When I first read the transcript, I thought the episode could be diagnosed as a case of trying just a little too hard. Does one not detect a slight unease underneath all the rabid enthusiasm for Governor Palin? It is as if without this absurd praise, the whole house of cards might suddenly collapse.

And then today, via Halperin, there was this:

McCain opens up by praising his veep pick, saying “isn’t this the most marvelous running mate in the history of this nation?” to wild cheers from the crowd.

It's a good thing Adams, Jefferson, and Teddy Roosevelt were never vice president...

Update: Some readers have pointed out that Adams and Jefferson were never "running mates," but simply vice-presidents by placing second in the Electoral College. Still, McCain's comments would place Palin ahead of Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman. 

--Isaac Chotiner 

Posted: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:47 PM with 22 comment(s)

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mgmax said:

At least the Democratic side would never fall prey to excess enthusiasm out of proportion to a mortal's gifts. praise Obama!

September 5, 2008 1:19 PM

icarusr said:

Suddently, "Obamabot", "Obamanaut", "kool-aid drinker", "cultist", "The One", "Messiah Complex", "presumptuous", "arrogant", "Obamamania" and, yes, "uppity" have a WHOLE new meaning ...

Or, perhaps, this is simply in line with "injecting a bit of humour" into the campaign?

One might say, alternatively, that compared with a bucket of warm piss ... oh, but I would not want to go there.

September 5, 2008 1:21 PM

Crock1701 said:

Well, it could be said that  Jefferson and Adams, while Vice President, weren't "Running Mates,"  they were Veep by virtue of finishing Second.  However, TR, FDR, and Truman most certainly were Running Mates, and all assuredly better than McCain's.

September 5, 2008 1:31 PM

FWright said:

Jefferson was never a running mate, though.  Teddy Roosevelt is a fair cop, and McCain should be able to remember Truman.

September 5, 2008 1:38 PM

Rhubarbs said:

John McCain to George H.W. Bush: "Screw you!"

Feel free to substitute other vice presidential running mates, including Truman, Franklin Roosevelt, Joe Lieberman, John Calhoun, Van Buran, Schuyler Colfax, and Coolidge, in addition to those already named. McCain thinks they're all schmucks next to Sarah Palin, the Greatest American in the American History of America.

The way she's being praised to the moon makes me wonder: Why didn't Republicans nominate her for president? If she's so great, and choosing her shows such fantastic judgment, then doesn't the fact that Republicans didn't draft her for the presidency show their judgment as a party to be quite poor?

September 5, 2008 1:43 PM

badrumm said:

To be fair, Adams and Jefferson were not running mates since their election preceded the ratification of the 12th amendment.

September 5, 2008 1:44 PM

kevincollins said:

Uh, I'm a pretty fair political junkie but even I haven't seen or read the word "drivebys" in a politcal context before. Surely thrice-divorced, drug-offender Limbaugh wasn't making a correlation between black-Obama and "drivebys" as in "driveby shootings"?

September 5, 2008 1:54 PM

Eos said:

Uh, isn't this a little thin and even desperat as a post? This is the kinkd of thing that encourages the "echo chamber" effect around TNR, as you can see from the kinds of comments it has elicited.

September 5, 2008 2:13 PM

ironyroad said:

This just in -- apparently the Republicans want to replace George Washington on the quarter coin with Sarah Palin.  They're claiming anyone who opposes it is unpatriotic and attacking her because she's a woman.

September 5, 2008 2:14 PM

LDuncan said:

I know this is trite, but who are the Messianic ones now?  For Chrissakes, Sarah Palin the greatest of all time -- based on one speech?  Not even the Obamaniacs (like myself) were ready to pronounce him the greatest ever of anything based on the 2004 speech.  We like him because he followed up on that by subjecting himself to countless interviews on MTP and other shows and other forms of scrutiny and showed that he can back up what he says with reasoning.  

September 5, 2008 2:18 PM

LDuncan said:

Eos, how many G-damn posts have you lodged complaining that Obama supporters are over the top in their views of him?  And it's not worthy for James to note that McCain has gone of the ga-ga deep-end?  McCain is one of the great hypocrites in modern politics.  He pretended to be the sober serious one for months who doesn't get driven by polls.  Yet in his first interview, with Charlie Gibson, where he was asked to defend the Palin choice, he went right to her "80% approval rating in Alaska."  I kid you not.  This post is as significant as many of the others.  McCain ain't the guy many of us hoped and expected to see.  

September 5, 2008 2:20 PM

thejauntyboulevardier said:

Rush Limbaugh is a joke and is hardly a barometer of anything other than his slice of the far right. I hardly think that Obama is any more or less concerned about his chances based upon the convention.

The GOP's convention was only successful in that they had 3 nights to bash Obama, which will, for the short term,  drive down his numbers. Overall, nothing  happened at the convention - which includes Palin - that has fundamentally changed the mechanics of the campaign. And with today's economic numbers splashing cold water on the expected post convention bounce, the race, as I said, is about that same.

The next event that has the potential to impact the mechanics of the campaign is the first debate later this month. Debates are hard to predict; Bush lost all three debates in 04 and still won the election so Obama, who is certainly coming in as the stronger debater, cannot count on anything until that debate is over.

I really think that this will be an election that will have, at the most, a 5 to 6 point separation. Right now, I would pick Obama win by that margin an with somewhere between 270 and 300 electoral votes.

September 5, 2008 2:37 PM

icarusr said:

She is certainly better than Cheney.  Cheney waited to get into Office before using National Security and the Secret Service to ward off intrusion his private affairs.  The Goddess has already started.

www.adn.com/.../516641.html

"Gov. Sarah Palin's lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, made an absurd threat in his battle to get the Legislature to back off its ethics investigation of the governor and her staff.

Van Flein said legislative investigator Steve Branchflower tried to call First Gentleman Todd Palin directly on "a secure and confidential line. This represents a serious security breach that we may be obligated to report to the Secret Service.""

Eos: honestly, you need better lines.  As Duncan said, given all your posts about "Obamamania", your defence of the Siren is strained, to say the least.

September 5, 2008 2:40 PM

Lundell said:

As much as I detest Dick Cheney, I have no doubts that he would have been able to run the country had W. departed.  Governor Palin?  Count me as not quite as confident.

September 5, 2008 2:52 PM

dylanposer said:

"Isn't this the most marvelous running mate in the history of this nation?"

Isn't calling her "marvelous" a bit of a bitch slap, so to speak, in the face?  

September 5, 2008 2:56 PM

drozenson said:

I think she does compare favorably with John C. Calhoun in that she's not an outspoken proponent of slavery (though her husband does have secessionist views).

September 5, 2008 3:03 PM

sdemuth said:

What about Lyndon Johnson.  Love him or hate him, it's pretty damned hard to argue that he wasn't supremely qualified to step in after Kennedy's untimely death.  Comparing Palin to him, in terms of ability to be President on a moment's notice is laughable.

September 5, 2008 3:06 PM

stanmvp48 said:

Aaron Burr

September 5, 2008 3:19 PM

stanmvp48 said:

John Breckenridge and John Tyler ended up supporting secession as I recall.

September 5, 2008 3:41 PM

GSpinks said:

"McCain ain't the guy many of us hoped and expected to see."

I'll second that notion.

Limbaugh is a shill; he's good for nothing if not ricidule and derision.

September 5, 2008 4:21 PM

jeidel1906 said:

KevinCollins - Limbaugh refers to the MSM as the "driveby media."

Could you imagine what McCain would do if Obama  called Biden the best VP pick in the history of the nation?  Over Teddy Roosevelt?  McCain:  "I knew Teddy Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt was a friend of mine..."

September 5, 2008 4:58 PM

Illuminismo said:

far better were, within recent memory:

Lyndon Johnson

Estes Kefauver

Walter Mondale

Lloyd Bentsen

Al Gore

Hubert Humphrey (not necessarily in that order)

and honestly, even Tom Eagleton and R. Sargent Shriver were way more impressive than Palin

and, for that matter

Richard Nixon

George H.W. Bush

Bob Dole

Jack Kemp

But we're talking about today's Anti-Democratic Party; reality no longer matters.  So McCain can be right, I guess.  

September 5, 2008 7:32 PM