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31.08.2008
How Gustav Could Benefit the Republicans

The conventional wisdom seems to hold that Hurricane Gustav, expected to make landfall at some point within the next 12-24 hours, could quite literally be a disaster for the Republicans as they attempt to hold their National Convention in St. Paul. I am here to present a devil's advocate case that the opposite may be true.

But firstly, a little bit more context on the storm. I would suggest that you all bookmark Jeff Masters' blog at Weather Underground, where much of this information is taken from.

Within the past 12-24 hours, three things have happened with Gustav. Firstly, it has approached land somewhat faster than anticipated, and is now very likely to make landfall at some point tomorrow (Monday), probably sometime between noon and 2 PM locally. (Although, hurricane-force winds will be felt earlier than that, whereas the the peak storm surge will occur later than that). Secondly, the projected path for Gustav has shifted somewhat westward; a direct hit on New Orleans now appears unlikely. And thirdly, Gustav has become less organized and somewhat less intense, and now appears likely to make landfall as a weak Category 3 or strong Category 2 storm.

These latter two developments are good news for New Orleans; however, the city is far from out of the woods. Because hurricanes rotate counter-clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere, they will tend to produce their largest storm surge to the east of their actual point of landfall when moving from this direction in the Gulf of Mexico. Therefore, while New Orleans is unlikely to experience peak wind speeds, it may still experience a substantial storm surge.

In theory, New Orleans' levees are designed to withstand a direct hit from of a Category 3 storm. Since Gustav may not be quite that strong, and since the hit may be slightly indirect, the levees should theoretically hold. In practice, however, nobody knows how strong the levees will be after Katrina. Moreover, either a slight strengthening of the storm or a slightly eastward turn in its projected landfall position are still well within the realm of possibility, either of which could overwhelm the levees.

Now then -- how could Gustav help the Republicans? Let me run briefly through four or five ways:

1. Allows McCain to Appear Magnanimous. By potentially delaying or canceling his "date" at the GOP convention, McCain appears as though he is giving something up to tend to the Gulf Coast. Sympathetic and neutral-to-sympathetic media outlets may view this as underscoring McCain's "America First" theme.

2. Lowers Expectations Bar. The selection of Sarah Palin as the VP nominee has forced the GOP to shift abruptly from a "Ready to Lead" theme to an "America First" theme. While it is difficult to say whether one of these themes was intrinsically stronger than the other, odds are that a lot of speeches had to be re-engineered, probably rendering them less effective upon delivery. Gustav, however, may give the GOP a built-in "excuse" for more off-the-cuff, hastily-organized speeches.

3. Removes the Bush problem. The further Mr. 30% is from St. Paul, the better off the Republicans will be.

4. Do-Over. Americans have short memories, and a relatively more successful response to Gustav could allow the GOP to argue that it has redeemed itself for the mistake of Katrina.

5. Crisis Mentality May Benefit McCain. By appearing in New Orleans, and perhaps even delivering his acceptance speech from there, McCain will have the opportunity to appear "presidential". Rather than asserting to that he is ready to lead -- an assertion that was undermined the the selection of Palin -- he may hope to give the appearance of actually demonstrating such leadership.

This is not to say that there aren't risks to the Republicans. There is a fine line between responding to tragedy and appearing to exploit it, and any gaffes by McCain, Palin or Bush could quickly alter the narrative. Gustav has yet to pass through the Gulf of Mexico's oil platforms, and any sort of spill could substantially undermine support for their offshore drilling initiatives. Finally, there is an opportunity cost involved. Although the Republicans may appear to be effective in responding to Gustav, they may not be able to emphasize certain other themes which might also have been effective uses of their free national airtime.

What should the Democrats to in response? They face some of the same risks that the Republicans do in terms of appearing to exploiting tragedy -- at present, in fact, Mr. Obama appears inclined to avoid creating a political spectacle of any kind on the Gulf Coast. However, it is imperative that they emphasize McCain's marginal track record on hurricane-relief and hurricane-protection measures. A riskier tact, which would probably need to be carried out through carefully-disciplined surrogates, would be to suggest that McCain only cares about such disasters when it is politically opportune for him to do so. Alternatively, Obama could attempt to preempt McCain by championing bipartisan relief and recovery efforts -- whether carried out through legislation or other means like volutneerism -- and asking (or challenging) McCain to join him.

--Nate Silver

Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:58 PM with 25 comment(s)

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CRS9TNR said:

Nate,

I think you forgot one more benefit.  Gustav points out what a lot of us thought about Katrina recovery in the first place, why throw good money after bad.

If Gustav takes out a lot of rebuilt Katrina, the rest of the country may be asking why we are spending federal dollars to rebuild in Hurrucane Alley.

The Press better find a lot of examples where new infrastructure and building beat the Hurrucane.  Another set of helpless victims won't play now.

August 31, 2008 6:24 PM

jacksondyer said:

You got this backwards: it's the people on the gulf coast who are benefiting from the national elections.

Do you think anyone would care jack about them if it weren't election time?

This is the equivalence of handing out dollar bills on Election Day.

August 31, 2008 6:31 PM

colablease said:

"Alternatively, Obama could attempt to preempt McCain by championing bipartisan relief and recovery efforts -- whether carried out through legislation or other means like volutneerism -- and asking (or challenging) McCain to join him."

This, I think, is the best.  Hurricane relief should be above politics--unless there's a failure, in which case you hold the responsible parties to account.  But competing over who's better at aiding the sufferers is a loser.

August 31, 2008 6:50 PM

aeromonas said:

This post echos Eve Fairbank's post on The Plank and the attendant comments fairly closely.  I'm not so sure I buy the good-for-the-GOP line.

-> If Bush doesn't show at the GOP convention, that in itself becomes a story; "Incumbant President No-Show at Own Party's Convention for First Time Ever."   And if Gustav turns out to be the dud storm that it looks llike it will, then Bush's current excess of concern--cancelling one of the most significant public appearances of his tenure--throws is inaction on Katrina, when it counted, into sharp relief.

-> The 'do-over.'  Yeah, that might play if New Orleans gets seriously trashed again, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen.  The US mainland gets hit by a cat 2 or 3 hurricane at least once a year.  Not that big a deal.  It's only when a cat 4 or 5 storm harpoons a major metro area, as with Katrina and Andrew that you get a disaster of epic proportions.  If the Bush Admin tries to blow it up into a major catastrophe just so they can get their mulligan, they'll wind up looking silly.

-> The benefits to the GOP of canceling, abbreviating, or delaying the RNC are purely negative.  If their message is so problematic and unpopular that they're better off not calling attention to it, then they're in deep shit.

-> Katrina, Katrina, Katrina.  Obama's massage is now McCain = Bush.  Previously it was McCain = Bush = Iraq, but now that Iraq ain't looking so bad, that doesn't cut so much ice.  If Obama can make it McCain = Bush = Katrina = lack of conern for the troubles of common folks, it's a big up, and if it does nothing else, Gustav is going to recall Katrina to people's minds.

August 31, 2008 8:07 PM

cspencef said:

First, a second to Nate's hat tip to the Jeff Masters blog at Weather Underground.  It is still the best place I know to get the goings-on in the tropics explained in good detail, and yet, remains accessible to the meteorological amateur.  

Now the Repugs' best bet is for Gustav to trend west (while weakening) and give N'awlins a miss.  That obvious point aside, the mere appearance of a large storm like this is automatically a negative to some degree; it reminds folks of Katrina, and even a successful Federal response opens up problematic issues; potential accusations of political bias (Louisiana is governed by a Republican now, a Democrat back then; also, after Katrina, a disproportionate amount of relief funding went to Republican Mississippi over Democratic Louisiana), for example--not as an immediate response, I would hope, which would be totally crass.  I doubt Obama would go there, but there's nothing stopping other Democrats from doing so.  

Oddly enough, it could also set McCain up for some second-guessing over his VP choice.  If Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal looks good and strong in leading after-storm recovery, it gives folks the opportunity to wonder why, if McCain was going to pick a first-term governor, didn't he pick this guy?

Still, the best thing to hope for is that this thing weakens a lot and the potential crisis is much lessened--though most of Florida can tell you right now that even a tropical storm can be a disaster...

August 31, 2008 8:16 PM

psantillana said:

this gives the r's an excuse to forfeit the convention comparison competition they'd have been trounced in.

also, I saw on the tee vee that Obama said he'd be happy to mobilize his massive army of supporters/donors to help with relief if needed. He didn't say "massive army" though. That's just what I thought.

August 31, 2008 8:46 PM

nbarry said:

If Gov. Jindal looks good and strong in his response, Republicans are sure to contrast that with the performance of his predecessor, Gov. Blanco, who looked as clueless as Bush and FEMA themselves. Gov. Palin has yet to have to deal with a natural disaster during her tenure.  How she would react to a 1964-type Anchorage earthquake is pure speculation.

August 31, 2008 8:48 PM

jacksondyer said:

  "Alternatively, Obama could attempt to preempt McCain by championing bipartisan relief and recovery efforts -- whether carried out through legislation or other means like volutneerism -- and asking (or challenging) McCain to join him."

Or the other way around:

"Alternatively, McCain  could attempt to preempt Obama by championing bipartisan relief and recovery efforts -- whether carried out through legislation or other means like volutneerism -- and asking (or challenging) Obama to join him."

August 31, 2008 9:15 PM

AaronBBrown said:

Hurricane Gustav is proof positive that God hates Republicans.  :-)

It's going to miss New Orleans and everything else on its way up to Minneapolis where it will smite the GOP convention for the heretical idol worshiping money changers that they are.  The walls of Xcel Energy Center are going to come tumbling down like Jericho.  :-)

August 31, 2008 10:59 PM

Eos said:

McCain seems already to be in front of Obama on the response to Gustav. This may simply be because of the tie-in to the convention, but McCain seems to be acting presidential  bipartisan and Obama seems to reacting slowly, passively, and politically.

August 31, 2008 11:14 PM

Eos said:

McCain seems already to be in front of Obama on the response to Gustav. This may simply be because of the tie-in to the convention, but McCain seems to be acting presidential  bipartisan and Obama seems to reacting slowly, passively, and politically.

August 31, 2008 11:14 PM

aeromonas said:

"McCain seems already to be in front of Obama on the response to Gustav."

Eos, given that their only official designation is as members of the United States Senate, a body that has no executive role in the response to events such as hurricanes, any response to Gustav by either candidate is necessarily "political."  

Do you think that McCain's and Palin's visit to the Gulf Coast has any bearing on evacuation efforts?  It's a photo op, pure theater.  So, while a case might be made that from a tactical, political standpoint one candidate or the other is handling his response to the storm more effectively, it has zilch to do with the practical matter of responding to the storm.  I can't find the exact number, but I'd guess that during McCain's 26 year Senate career something like 30 hurricanes have struck the US mainland.  Do you suppose the Senator from Arizona has ever visited a hurricane effected area at the time of the storm, much less visiting it BEFORE the storm strikes?  Of course not.  Why?  Because it is absurd for him to do so.

Is is too "slow" and "passive" to stand aside while the officials whose job it is to do things like organize evacuations and shore up levees get on with it?  What was slow and passive was George W Bush's response to hurricane Katrina over whose response he DID have executive control and whose responders did not do their jobs.

September 1, 2008 12:50 AM

Wandreycer1 said:

FYI - Eos is a Republican troll.  

September 1, 2008 4:04 AM

Wandreycer1 said:

"Out in Front of.."

To our paid Republican troll, nice try on the manipualtion.  But he's in front of nothing but the mirror.

Oh unless you mean the ridiculous mugging, preening and media hogging? While desperately trying to somehow use this to his advantage in a really undignified, grasping, obvious way?

He's, as usual, making a horses patootey of himself while accomplishing nothing but gaining airtime.  

He's a child.

September 1, 2008 5:11 AM

aeromonas said:

"FYI - Eos is a Republican troll."

I'm just interested, Wandrey, what makes you say so?  I was "out in front" of labeling pccostello a paid Clinton troll, and in retrospect, given his/her total disappearance from this site the precise moment that Clinton suspended her campaign, I'm fairly sure that pccostello was indeed a hireling  I haven't paid so much attention to Eos, but I do wonder whether there are characteristics that online shills have in common.  (Part of me wonders whether liberal reformer was also getting paid, though I'm more inclined to believe that he was a just a sad shut-in with a modicum of smarts and no one to talk to.)

Here are some signs that a poster may be a paid campaign hack:

-> He appears from out of nowhere and starts lighting up these boards with 20 or 30 posts per day.  We know, for example, that jacksondyer is NOT a McCain campaign hack since jackson has been gracing us with his unique brand of wisdom since well before there was such a thing as the McCain campaign.

->He limits his comments exclusively to the candidates and the campaign.  For example I never once caught pccostello leaving a stray comment about photovoltaics or urban density over at The Vine.

->He keeps a firm lid on the invective, using formulations such as "it looks like such-and-such is happening" or "I think people are getting worried about such-and-such."  This is another reason we can be sure that jacksondyer is not a paid shill.

->He keeps an eye to the polls, drawing in stray bits of data--data of which most amateurs would never even be aware--whenever they seem to suggest an advantage for his candidate.

->He seems hyperaware of what's going on on all the political blogs, routinely linking to RCP, the Corner, or Kos whenever it appears advantageous to his candidate.

->He never says anything about policy.  It's always about the positive way people are perceiving his candidate and the negative way they're perceiving the opponent.

->Personal information is kept entirely generic, and even a general location is withheld.

Is Eos a shill?  I couldn't say as I haven't been following him closely enough, but now I'll certainly keep a lookout.  

September 1, 2008 7:45 AM

johnalthousecohen said:

Please read through your post before posting. This is essentially a short article -- it should be proofread.

September 1, 2008 7:53 AM

Right Wing News said:

Conventional wisdom says that hurricane Gustav is a disaster for the Republicans and their hoped for convention bounce. Essentially the meme says that they can't effectively use their 4 days for the uninterupted message sales job conventions normally

September 1, 2008 10:25 AM

jacksondyer said:

Obama didn't get a convention bounce?  Why do you think that is, if his speech was so great?

"Poll shows no convention bounce for Obama"

www.cnn.com/.../index.html

September 1, 2008 10:58 AM

The Plank said:

Today On TNR.com (August 28, 2008) The Gustav Effect: How this tragedy could benefit the Republicans

September 1, 2008 11:26 AM

Wandreycer1 said:

Well, Jackson - he had an 8 point bounce, which was growing, until it was squashed by McCain.  It was a masterful stroke by McCain in that way, I have to give him that.  His tactics stopped the momentum in its tracks.  A wily move!

September 1, 2008 11:26 AM

tomeg said:

Jacksondyer writes:

"Obama didn't get a convention bounce?  Why do you think that is, if his speech was so great?

'Poll shows no convention bounce for Obama.'"

Compared to past conventions, this news would be an ill portent for Obama. It may yet prove so. But the dynamics of this election and the timing of the two conventions, one immediately following the other, separated by a national holiday, could easily skew post-convention poll results. In addition, this time the respective candidates have been in public view for nearly two years, an unusually long time. I don't know about you, jackson, but my mind was made up several months ago, I had passed the moment of decision and I didn't need (or frankly, want) the conventions, so worn out I have become by now. I wasn't a certain Obama supporter a year or six months ago (I had leaned toward him, after all I'm a Democrat first and foremost), but I had reservations.

I think a lot more voters, like myself, this year have already made their decision who to vote for with little margin for doubt. Anyway, theories aside, I didn't expect much of bounce this time, if any, for either candidate. We'll see what happens after McCain makes his big play this week. There are plenty ways his campaign can make up for any lost exposure, and the urgency of the moment might well work to his advantage. Nonetheless, I also expect little bounce for him when the dust settles (so to speak).

But of course who am I? Nate, what say ye?

September 1, 2008 3:00 PM

yayfrogs said:

"Hurricane relief should be above politics--unless there's a failure, in which case you hold the responsible parties to account.  But competing over who's better at aiding the sufferers is a loser."

Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Nothing is above politics. McCain might be concerned about the Gulf Coast, but he has members of his marketing team who are paid to be heartless just in case of situations such as this one.

As for me, the DNC was enlightening. I spent much of Sen. Obama's speech yelling at the television. It didn't change my mind about November, but it did make me more confident in my dislike of Obama.

I was looking forward to the RNC to see if I'd be yelling at Sen. McCain the same amount. In an election such as this one, I tend to seek out the lesser of the two evils.

September 1, 2008 5:53 PM

ironyroad said:

yayfrogs says:  "I spent much of Sen. Obama's speech yelling at the television."

Why?  I mean, I take it it's because you disagreed with him.  But on what, exactly?

September 1, 2008 6:59 PM

tnmats said:

I think yayfrogs was yelling since Obama wasn't forcefully pro-frog in his speech.  Or maybe it was due to him not stating, categorically and without a doubt, that he's 200% pro-amphibian.  Or something like that.  I think.  Maybe?

September 1, 2008 8:52 PM

The Stump said:

A number of pundits, such as our own Nate Silver and Slate 's John Dickerson , have argued that Gustav

September 1, 2008 9:47 PM