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TODAY'S STORIES
12.08.2008
If Only...

I know this quote landed hours agao, but what in the hell was Howard Wolfson thinking when he started babbling to ABC.com about how John Edwards cost Hillary the nomination? If only Edwards had come clean about the love child, so the theory goes, Iowa voters would have abandoned the horny little shmuck and flocked to Hillary, who would have then steamrolled to victory. 

Maybe. Maybe not. And maybe Hillary's incredibly incompetently run campaign would have imploded at a later date. Who can say? As I have ranted about previously, "ifs" ain't worth much in politics. I mean, if Bill Clinton hadn't been driven insane by the South Carolina primary, how different might the scene be today? If Hillary hadn't broken down and cried in New Hapmshire, would the race have ended there? If Mark Penn weren't loathed by pretty much everyone on Team Hillary other than Bill, would things have been better? What about if Bill and Mark had run the race with an iron fist from day one? What if Hillary had listened to all her friends and put someone other than Patti Solis Doyle in charge starting out? What if the Hillary camp had figured out how the hell to run in a caucus state? What if what if what if what if what if ...   

As it is, all Wolfson's comment serves to do is remind of the narcissism of Clintonia. John Edwards has been outed as a pathetic lying tool. His widely revered wife has been implicated in his politically idiotic coverup. There is a baby out there whose paternity will remain a matter of gross public speculation because of the breathtaking childishness and selfishness of the parents (whoever the hell the dad is). And Team Hillary wants us to think for one second about what this may have cost them? Boo hoo hoo.

I like Howard. He was a generally forthright guy on a campaign that could be ... um, challenging to deal with. But this nakedly bitter comment suggests some members of Hillaryland need to adjust their meds, seek additional grief therapy, and get some perspective.

--Michelle Cottle

Posted: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:52 PM with 16 comment(s)

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icarusr said:

If my grandmother had wheels, Howard Wolfson would be a sane person.

August 12, 2008 1:38 PM

jhildner said:

It's not true anyway.  The second choice for Edwards voters in Iowa was, I believe, overwhelmingly Obama.  There's a record that proves this stupid (and pointless) contention wrong.

August 12, 2008 1:39 PM

Gavriel Meir-Levi said:

He's just doing his duty for the Hillary Campaign... don't forget, she suspended her campaign, she didn't end it.  I am sure Howard didn't wake up in the morning and say "Hey, I'll talk to ABC..."  Hillary asked him to do it, so he did it.

The "victim narrative" being pushed is no more absurd than any of the other bogus lines Howard has had to  tow (remember Wolfson saying that Obama is not qualified to be Hillary's VP even after Hillary and Bill floated the idea publicly, itself an absurd idea seeing as she was losing insurmountably at the time?).  It's total BS, but don't blame the messenger.  He's still acting as her Campaign Spokesman.

Of course, had Edwards not run then the Clinton's may not have encouraged Obama to run early on and then who knows?  Maybe Gore would've run and let there be no doubt - Gore would have trounced anyone in Iowa (except maybe former governor Vilsack).

August 12, 2008 1:58 PM

blackton said:

Last night on CNN International the coverage was all about Georgia, on Hannity and Combs (I watched the preview) no mention of Iraq, but Karl Rove was there to discuss Wolfson's statement. They also previewed about how Obama hates Fox and Father Pfleger hates Hannity. I watched CNN (of course).

It scares me to think how many Americans get their "news" from that disgraceful station.

I find it interesting that Wolfson works for Fox. Scumbags deserve each other.

August 12, 2008 1:59 PM

GSpinks said:

"But this nakedly bitter comment suggests some members of Hillaryland need to adjust their meds, seek additional grief therapy, and get some perspective. "

Its not that I don't agree, but between www.hilllaryis44.org and the insane talk of not just staying home, but actually voting for McCain instead of Obama, I thought the meds, grief therapy, and perspective things were more than abundantly clear a long time ago.

August 12, 2008 2:14 PM

dbhuff said:

Gavriel, you have it again. If there is anything we should have learned from the release of the memos it is that nothing happens by accident. mistake maybe, accident no. These are professionals, who while not exactly all on the same page, do serve the same mistress...

August 12, 2008 2:35 PM

wildboy said:

Setting aside hypothetical scenarios of who else would have gotten into and out of the Democratic contest if the media had revealed Edwards' affair in 2007, it most certainly would have harmed Hillary for the simple reason that the media story would have been about how Edwards was just like another philandering Democratic politician ... who happens to be married to Hillary Clinton and whose extracurricular and possibly dubious post-Presidential activities were hardly mentioned in the media during the 2008 primary race (at least not until the very end).  Endless media speculation about whether Bill Clinton had kept, or would keep, his pants on during Hillary's presidency would most certainly NOT have steered more voters to her, in Iowa or elsewhere.  

August 12, 2008 3:16 PM

virginiacentrist said:

I'm of two minds about this.

First of all, it's obvious that Edwards was taking Obama support (change vote) in Iowa. Polls show this.

But I think that Edwards' long term presence in the race would have HELPED Obama. In the long term, Edwards' support would most liikely solidify around rural whites - the very group that eventually took so strongly to Hillary (because of the Clinton brand). It's not hard to imagine a well-funded Edwards campaign sapping much more from Hillary in the long run.

August 12, 2008 3:49 PM

ramboorider said:

From Mark Penn's memo of March 19, 2007:

     We are the candidate of people with needs.

     We win women, lower classes, and Democrats (about 3 to 1 in our favor).

     Obama wins men, upper class, and independents (about 2 to 1 in his favor).

     Edwards draws from these groups as well.

Unless I'm misreading this, Penn is saying that Edwards draws from the same groups as Obama, which was a key assumption in the Clinton strategy. Hence, no Edwards would have helped Obama more than Clinton by their own calculations.

August 12, 2008 3:55 PM

psantillana said:

Also, this is Obama's fault.

August 12, 2008 4:28 PM

michael said:

I trust you are familiar with the mental state of these people and maybe meds would do the trick. Or it could be people looking at that $20 million debt and saying, "Barack, this would be a whole lot easier if you got the bill [heh] collectors off our backs."

"I am neither bitter nor cynical but I do wish there was less immaturity in political thinking."

FDR

August 12, 2008 4:30 PM

bmalin said:

No idea is too outrageous for the Clinton movement.

Hilary’s campaign is the worst thing to happen to the democratic party since Jimmy Carter.  Whether by accident or on purpose, she, her campaign and her legions of Kool-Aid drinkers (and frankly, that’s unfair to Kool-Aid) are sending the party on the road to defeat.  This is a landslide year for democrats given the complete an utter failure of Republican governance as well as fatigue with an authoritarian administration (the Bush pot has a lot of nerve calling the Putin kettle black).  Yet, McCain is in striking distance.  

Clinton should be telling her gang to put a sock in it an be 100% behind Obama, and that she has no designs on a future run for the presidency.  I think that it is this possibility of if not ,08 then 2012 that keeps her 18 million going.  “Well if Obama win’s okay, but we don’t need to do anything to help him.  If he loses we’ll be back in 4 years” is what they are saying.  If she thinks she will get the support from Obama’s backers in 4 years she can forget it.  A more likely scenario is someone along the lines of Obama (think Mark Warner, now giving the keynote speech at the convention) entering the race, and the electorate turning on her with a vengeance for causing the lose in 2008.

August 13, 2008 8:29 AM

lesserliz said:

Wait there's hope. I just read that Hillary will give up all her demands in return for allowing a performance by Diana Ross singing "Love Child"  followed by Justin Timberlake ripping away part of her blouse to expose a bare breast.

August 13, 2008 9:04 AM

ChanRobt said:

I hope Wolfson's comments are emblematic of the feelings of millions Hillary acolytes.

A lot of bitterness will go a long way to keeping Mr. Obama out of the White House.

August 13, 2008 11:00 AM

basman said:

It's all a lot of nothing while Rome or wherever burns.

August 13, 2008 1:26 PM

nturner said:

I think it's absolutely rich watching the Obamessiah cultists moan about how Hillary -- yes HILLARY! -- is the reason Obambi can't close the deal.  The writing was on the wall in the primaries, but none of his followers wanted to read it.  And now it's Hillary's fault?!  This is a person who consistently lost primaries when people were actually expected to, ya know, come out and vote in large numbers.  Sure, he could game the system, win a few caucuses, and come away with more delegates, but it never seemed to bother any of you folks that your nominee lost every major contest... even after outspending Sen. Clinton hand over fist... even after being declared the winner for weeks...  The Democratic Party has, once again, nominated a candidate who has no appeal in Middle America, yet instead of admitting characteristic stupidity, you folks want to blame the candidate who did exhibit such appeal.  Now that I've got no dog in this fight, it's actually priceless to watch it from afar!

August 13, 2008 6:21 PM