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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
02.07.2008
Today's Polls: Deep Blue Something

So, I have a little bit more trouble getting worked up over polls in states like Massachusetts and Connecticut than I do in swingier parts of the country. But these are a very good set of numbers for Barack Obama, and I think they do tell us something.

There are two new polls out in Connecticut. Quinnipaic has Obama leading by 21 points, and Rasmussen has him ahead by 17. In the previous editions of those polls, Obama held leads of 17 and 3 points, respectively. The 3-pointer from Rasmussen might have been partially responsible for The McCain campaign's insistence that Connecticut was a toss-up, but it was the only poll conducted since the new year to have shown McCain within single digits of Obama in Connecticut.

Perhaps the more important news out of the state, however, is that Joe Liberman's approval ratings have fallen to 45 percent. A rating that low is relatively unprecedented for a Senator who was just re-elected 20 months ago and has not had a major scandal befall him. The piece of longer-term fallout from this is that we might now expect Liberman to try and make good with the Democrats if Barack Obama becomes President, figuring that he'll have four years to rehabilitate his reputation. Whether the Democrats would welcome him back is another question, but frankly I'd expect them to be so giddy if they won the Presidency that they might be in a generous mood. If John McCain becomes President, on the other hand, Lieberman had better hope that McCain has a 60 percent or better approval rating by the time they both come up for reelection in 2012.

In Massachusetts, Rasmussen has Barack Obama up by 20; that's up from 13 a month ago. And in New York, Rasmussen has his lead reaching 31 points -- it was a 19-point lead in late May.

So what's that little something these polls tell us? Whatever else the consequences of Obama's perceived shift to the center, it certainly hasn't cost him among the Democratic base.

--Nate Silver 

Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:29 PM with 6 comment(s)

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miceelf said:

If the dems pick up a couple of senate seats (the very LEAST they will pick up), they'll have less need for Lieberman than they already do. His only real hope for relevance is if they end up with 59 seats.

July 3, 2008 5:22 AM

ramboorider said:

They're still gonna need Lieberman on a lot of issues, even if they pick up several more. They use him shameless, wring him out for all he's worth to them, and then work like hell to kick his ass out of the Senate in 2012. And if Obama's president, he should seriously consider declaring Marshall Law just long enough to have him shot. Just kidding, but there are very few depths to how much Democrats should loathe this slimy little piece of excrement. And don't accuse me of antisemitism - I'm a non-self-hating Jew myself and was proud to have him on the ticket in 2000. I used to like Bill Clinton too. Times change. Sh!t happens.

July 3, 2008 6:27 AM

TheOneIsHere2008 said:

WTF is Marshall Law?

It's martial law you half- wit...

George Marshal was the originator of a plan (Marshall Plan) for economic recovery in Europe following WWll.

July 3, 2008 8:15 AM

ramboorider said:

Sorry. It was early. I also tried (unsuccessfully) to type "They should use him shamelessly..." but failed at that too. Then again, George Marshall was a sensible guy - maybe he'd have had him shot too.

July 3, 2008 8:53 AM

Rhubarbs said:

On the topic of shooting people, Rasmussen has Obama up 48-43 in Montana. In chess, that would be written, "48-43 (!?)".

More evidence in favor of Obama picking a culturally Western white male non-Ivy VP with Webb/Tester policy leanings and a lifetime A rating from the NRA. Which is to say, Brad Henry.

This could be the election that loses the Mountain West for Republicans, and the great thing is that Webb/Tester Western-style progressive libertarianism is a huge winner for Democrats in Midwestern and Eastern suburbs and exurbs as well.

July 3, 2008 10:49 AM

spencer97m said:

Perhaps this will make it less likely that Lieberman will speak at the Repub convention?

July 3, 2008 11:52 AM