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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
01.07.2008
Pixar, Top to Bottom

When I saw that Vulture's ranking of pre-WALL-E Pixar films rated the incredible The Incredibles at number 7 out of 8, I was ready to swear off the site for at least a day. But they do otherwise get an awful lot of things right: The marvelousness of Ellen DeGeneres in Finding Nemo, the way that Toy Story 2 upped the ante on the original, and the fact that Cars, appealing as it is to those of us with preschoolers, is the least glittery jewel in the Pixar crown.

Most of all though, I'm relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who is positively slain by the conclusion of Monster's Inc. The very last shot, when Sully enters Boo's bedroom and the perspective is reversed, so we see him peering in from the closet door and watch the smile spread across his face as she shouts "Kitty!" is simply perfect, one of the most endearing moments in recent cinema.

My own list, for what it's worth, would be something along the lines below. Bear in mind that a) I think every one of Pixar's features has been terrific; and b) I probably need to see a few of them--A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2 and, yes, Finding Nemo--again sometime soon:

9. Cars               

8. A Bug's Life     

7. Finding Nemo   

6. Ratatouille       

5. Toy Story 2      

4. Toy Story            (bonus points for being the ground-breaker)

3. Monsters, Inc.   

2. The Incredibles 

1. WALL-E            

Feel free to explain in comments just how wrong I am. And for those of you who missed it last week, my WALL-E review is here.

--Christopher Orr

Posted: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:19 PM with 17 comment(s)

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benjamin81 said:

Well, I'm in a poor position to comment since I haven't seen the entire Pixar corpus, but I would rank Cars higher than The Incredibles. But that might be because I'm descended from a long line of car dealers, and all the gags in Cars spoke to me on a level they didn't to you.

You might make clear that, as good as each of these films is, this ranking is tightly clustered - i.e., if I understand you correctly, not much space separates each film from the one above. Or do you feel that some film stands head and shoulders above the next-highest ranked one?

July 1, 2008 3:43 PM

drdannyu said:

I love the warm, kind-hearted conclusion of "Ratatouille" (particularly the brief and poignant flashback the critic experiences upon tasting the title dish) so much that I would rank it above both "Toy Story" 1 & 2.

July 1, 2008 3:47 PM

perkowitz said:

I thought ratatouille included one of the best renderings of the feeling of creative pleasure I've ever seen in a film, so it holds a very special place for me. but I haven't seen all of the corpus (or Wall-E yet).

July 1, 2008 4:00 PM

tnr1.com said:

I still can fall on the floor laughing when thinking about DeGeneres in Nemo and have to insist you put it way way way higher on that super fun list of yours. "Ooh look, a shark! Hi there!"

July 1, 2008 4:05 PM

rozenson said:

Ratatouille is only #6? Even if the story was formulaic, it marked a major leap in animation. It was also really funny, as I recall. I'd certainly rank it ahead of Monsters, Inc.

July 1, 2008 4:13 PM

GSpinks said:

I think the list is pretty dead on; I have yet to see WALL-E (maybe the drive-in this weekend) but I absolutely think Incredibles and Monsters, Inc. are at the top of the list, head and shoulders above the rest because they have that near perfect mixture of humor and plot and "je no se qua" that draws in the kids AND the parents.

July 1, 2008 4:36 PM

blackton said:

It is tough to rank these films as it just becomes a matter of taste, I thought the Incredibles was weaker than the rest (haven't seen Cars though my kids have the DVD) and would put Nemo higher since my kids watch that quite a bit as well as Toy Story.

Here is a tip for parents of preschoolers, let them watch it in Spanish, you would be surprised how much they pick up watching it.

July 1, 2008 5:47 PM

jet said:

Not a Nemo fan at all, 9 for me with Bugs Life at 7, Cars at 8.  Otherwise the list is pretty good from 6 on down.

July 1, 2008 6:41 PM

cspencef said:

I would have to switch The Incredibles and Ratatouille.  Where Bird got a bit ham-handed and strident in the former, he found a more persuasive and lighter touch in the latter (at least for me, and any such list is inevitably personal).  And I'd probably switch Cars and A Bug's Life.  I won't worry about WALL*E until I see it, probably this weekend, but it will have a tough task to top Ratatouille in my book.

July 1, 2008 8:36 PM

aeromonas said:

The problem with Ratatouille was that was over its audience's heads--assuming as I think you must that its primary audience is grade-schoolers.  I saw the movie with my 5 and 6 year old kids, and they simply didn't get it.  And I'm not talking just about the jokes--these films are always leavened with humor meant to keep the parents in the audience happy--but about the most basic motivations.  I mean, seriously, the villain was a FOOD CRITIC.  Just try formulating an on-the-fly explanation comprehensible to a six-year-old as to the role a food critic plays in the life and death of a restaurant.

Superheroes, monsters, and fish trying to escape from aquariums my kids can grasp intuitively.  Food critics and the virtue of a gourmet palate, they do not.

July 2, 2008 8:47 AM

Barnacle said:

I would rank "Monsters, Inc." and "WALL-E" at the top, just ahead of both of the Brad Bird/Ayn Rand tales, "Ratatouille" and "The Incredibles." The story line in all of those films was less Disney formulaic. "Nemo" also was pretty clever in that way in that it was about a parent trying to find his son and not the other way around.

I think film buffs will be talking about WALL-E for decades. It's the finest animated film I have seen. The children at the screening I attended seemed a little bored until the final couple of action sequences. During the silent portions and the exquisite "dance" sequence, the adults were telling the kids to, "shhh," not because they were embarrassing themselves but because they didn't want these beautiful, blissful moments interrupted.

July 2, 2008 9:07 AM

chrispkenny said:

I don't think Monsters, Inc. is better than Ratatouille, but your description of the final scene of Monster's Inc. gave me chills.  I haven't seen the move in a long time and so it was a (momentary) thrill to remember it.  What a phenomenal shot.

July 2, 2008 9:21 AM

bigfish said:

I saw WALL-E last weekend and absolutely adored it, even though I was a little hungover.  (Minor spoilers ahead)

I especially thought that the scenes with WALL-E and EVE trying to communicate with each other even though there was a malady affecting the other one (whether EVE is dormant or WALL-E's personality is fried) were particularly poignent.  The montage (yay montages!) of short scenes toward the beginning where WALL-E cared for EVE without any immediate expectation of being cared for in return (the umbrella-as-lightning rod) were sweet, and showed the need for everyone not just to be loved, but to love.  Sure, WALL-E and EVE's lives had purpose before they met (a "directive," if you will), but with each other, their lives had meaning.

And Blackton, great idea with the Espanol lessons for little'uns!  Now, if only I had kids....or a wife to have them with...or a girlfeind.  Blackton, your advice is depressing.  At least I'm moving to New York, land of the large blue dot!

July 2, 2008 10:35 AM

cspencef said:

Is Pixar really aiming for kids anymore?  I haven't had that impression since the Toy Story movies.

July 2, 2008 12:51 PM

tbbaker said:

I think they stopped aiming for kids when they showed full-on penetration in "A Bug's Life".

July 2, 2008 1:09 PM

cspencef said:

I've now seen WALL*E.  I've drunk the kool-aid.  It goes to the top.

July 7, 2008 1:06 PM

The Plank said:

I'm a bit late weighing in on the London Times 's befuddlingly weak list of best movie endings

July 14, 2008 11:08 AM