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TODAY'S STORIES
16.06.2008
Hillary's Martyrdom Isn't All It's Cracked Up To Be

I'm all for counterintuitive articles, and John Heilemann's big New York story making the case that Hillary has emerged from her defeat a "more resonant, consequential, and potent figure than she has ever been before" is a good one. But I'd like to take exception to one point Heilemann makes. He writes:

It was only after Bill Clinton’s impeachment ordeal that he became a beloved figure on the traditional left, which had long regarded him warily before his persecution by the special prosecutor and the congressional Republicans. WJC, in other words, was fortunate in his enemies. Now HRC finds herself similarly blessed; in Chris Matthews she appears to have found her own version of Ken Starr. It’s been said before, but it bears repeating once again. Whatever else one thinks about the Clintons, there’s no denying that martyrdom has been very, very good to them.

This is true up to a point, but Hillary's martyrdom differs from Bill's in one key detail: he survived impeachment; she didn't survive the Democratic primary. Heilemann makes it clear that Hillary still wants to be president, but it's really hard to see how she'll ever accomplish that. If Obama wins, she won't be able to run until 2016, when she'll be 69 and as fresh as Hubert Humphrey was in 1968. And if Obama loses, a decent segment of black and activist liberal voters will probably hold Hillary at least partly responsible for his defeat, no matter how hard (and how disingenuously) she campaigns for him this fall. And as Hillary learned in '08, you can't win a Democratic primary without those voters. In other words, Hillary's martyrdom might have made her more resonant, consequential, and potent, but I don't think it's made her more presidential.

--Jason Zengerle 

Posted: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:51 PM with 5 comment(s)

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ralphnelle said:

Also, Chris Matthews is not Ken Starr. You have to wonder whether someone in the Clinton campaign wrote that line herself.

I hope these people can get over themselves soon. We have an election to win now.

June 16, 2008 1:31 PM

BHLnyc said:

I heard Heilemann's interview this morning on MSNBC and was struck by how out of touch his thesis is.

Hillary's negatives are higher than ever, her campaign will be widely remembered as having been badly managed and staffed with terrible people, she galvanized African American voters against her, and her fabrications -- while as numerous as Bill's -- were not said in defense against a zealous prosecutor.

Nice try, but in this case, a loss is a loss.

June 16, 2008 1:38 PM

dbhuff said:

Heilemann, Larry Johnson, and others are still really, what's the word? Bitter! There are better ways to spend our respective times. But I suppose HRC needs to begin some work on reputation repair...

June 16, 2008 2:19 PM

xian said:

Baloney: Take a look at the map in the NYTimes. She carried nearly all the blue states by good margins. The Democrats will never carry the deep south. Check the map.. They will also never carry Utah, Idaho, and the states that surround them. The fact is if one looks at the reality of the East, Midwest and Far East and West, it was Hillary, who won those states.

What Obama carried were Republican red states, which may or may not go for him in the fall. She lost all right. But the Democratic Party System was rigged through caucases.

Those of us who supported her are not fools. We know which way the water dropped.  Now the decision is to hold our nose, sit it out, or go to the other party.  One is going to see a lot more split tickets than you expect. Hillary supporters, and there are alot of them out there, know precisely how the nomination was won and they are not going to forget. it

June 17, 2008 12:23 PM

desertdog said:

Jason....BO supporters like you just can't find it in yourselves to be good winners, can you?  No matter how hard HRC campaigns for BO, she's being "disingenuous".  If she doesn't campaign, she secretly wants him to lose.  Either way, she gets blamed for his loss in November.  What do you guys want?

It's like Phil Jackson's constant complaining about officiating whether his team wins or loses.  Either way it's chicken#$^% and shows what a loser he (and you) are.  Sorry to break the bad news to you, but all those red state independents that voted in those open primaries and caucuses were republicans voting against Hillary, not for your guy.  

You won.  OK? Move on.  There are much bigger problems to deal with now.

June 17, 2008 1:23 PM