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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
13.05.2008
Barney Frank: An Example for Obama?

The New York Times takes a look today at the surprising record of success Barney Frank has amassed in working with the Bush administration and Republicans in Congress. The piece is full of typical Barneyisms ("[Frank] said that asking the White House to support more government intervention was 'like asking me to judge the Miss America contest--if your heart's not in it, you don't do a very good job.' ") The most interesting graf, though, might be this:

"Barney has been very fair," said Representative Dana Rohrabacher of California and one of the most conservative members of the House. "I think that I have been treated more fairly, and a number of my Republican colleagues have been treated more fairly, since the Democrats have become the majority than I was treated by my own leadership."

Now, there's clearly a limit to how far things like civility and procedural fairness can go in papering over ideological conflicts (though the fact that Barney Frank and Dana Rohrabacher can come together on anything is noteworthy). Frank probably benefits from chairing a committee that deals with issues on which technocratic negotiation can be somewhat productive--it's hard to imagine he'd be able to be as bipartisan if he chaired, say, the Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

I think what Frank's record demonstrates is that there are at least some respects in which Barack Obama's pledges to seek understanding and "disagree without being disagreeable" aren't entirely, as some contend, meaningless platitudes. Sometimes compromise is possible and sometimes it isn't, but DeLay-style politics ensures that pretty much every question winds up falling into the latter category, even if bipartisanship might prove fruitful. When you start talking about things like health-care or entitlement reform, absent one party holding 60-plus Senate seats, you need some minimal level of trust and dialogue if anything's going to get done.

--Josh Patashnik 

Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:17 PM with 8 comment(s)

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liberal reformer said:

Civility and compromise sometimes can occur, even with conservative Republicans. I have long admired Barney Frank. Talking about such comity is not empty and it is not platudinous. Where it doesn't ring true to me is that Obama's rhetoric and his actions are divided against each other. Obama has a fairly partisan voting record, which is fine. I have favored more partisanship in recent years, to oppose the rank partisans at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and in Congress before the Republican defeat in 2006. It is just that Obama talks like a conciliator and votes like a partisan. That is where - I think  - the empty platitudes come in.

May 13, 2008 6:43 PM

WaltB said:

I think everyone should read the NY Times Sunday story on Obama before thinking his conciliator side is empty.  This is really what he is, although those with specific agendas will think he's on their side and then think he left them, because he'll take bits and pieces from all sides to put something together.  The last politician I know of to the way he operated in Chicago, was LBJ - a horse swapping Texan if there ever was one, but he made major progress in civil rights and other areas.  Pity he had Viet Nam around his neck.

May 13, 2008 7:30 PM

liberal reformer said:

WaltB: You have to be kidding: Obama as the new LBJ? LBJ the conciliator? More like LBJ, the arm twister. Can you even imagine Obama saying about a legislator that "I have his pecker in my pocket" as LBJ did?

May 13, 2008 8:29 PM

jmkerr said:

An "example" for Obama? He's running for President. Usually, that would mean you think *he's* the leader, but you want him to be the learner.

Reason #2920352 why Obamatons ought not to be let out without their diapers.

May 14, 2008 3:15 AM

averym said:

jmkerr, do you think Obama has nothing to learn? Barney Frank is a model of bipartisan leadership: getting the right thing done for the country without dividing it. Obama would do well to take a page from his book.

May 14, 2008 3:18 AM

ChanRobt said:

Despite the foibles of his past, Barney Frank has one big advantage over most of his colleagues in Congress:  he's intelligent.

In some situations, that helps.

May 14, 2008 3:59 AM

cspencef said:

Quote:

"When you start talking about things like health-care or entitlement reform, absent one party holding 60-plus Senate seats, you need some minimal level of trust and dialogue if anything's going to get done."

All the same, it would be advisable to hold sixty-plus Senate seats if at all possible...

May 14, 2008 3:48 PM

The Stump said:

According to the Daily News , Ted Kennedy has a plan for his succession: Ted Kennedy has made clear to

May 22, 2008 10:44 AM