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12.05.2008
Note to Self: Cancel Those Riyadh Vacation Plans

Kudos to Michael Slackman for his superb New York Times story today on Saudi Arabian youths (male youths, to be exact). The piece starts with a Tom Friedman-esque anecdote about a young Saudi trying to get a girl's phone number, and the reader is reasonably certain that what follows will be a heartwarming tale about how kids in every culture are basically the same, and how the next generation of liberals will do away with the desert kingdom's oppressive regime.

Alas (for Saudi Arabia, if not the reader), Slackman's story goes in a completely different direction. The story of two cousins and their covert romances, Slackman's piece presents us with two young men who are angry and bitter and virulently misognyist. Here is one of many great anecdotes:

Suddenly, the young men stopped focusing on their food. A woman had entered the restaurant, alone. She was completely draped in a black abaya, her face covered by a black veil, her hair and ears covered by a black cloth pulled tight.

“Look at the batman,” Nader said derisively, snickering.

Enad pretended to toss his burning cigarette at the woman, who by now had been seated at a table. The glaring young men unnerved her, as though her parents had caught her doing something wrong.

“She is alone, without a man,” Enad said, explaining why they were disgusted, not just with her, but with her male relatives, too, wherever they were.

When a man joined her at the table — someone they assumed was her husband — she removed her face veil, which fueled Enad and Nader’s hostility. They continued to make mocking hand gestures and comments until the couple changed tables. Even then, the woman was so flustered she held the cloth self-consciously over her face throughout her meal.

“Thank God our women are at home,” Enad said.

--Isaac Chotiner 

Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:31 PM with 14 comment(s)

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Rhubarbs said:

Would someone please print this post, get a red Sharpie and write in the margin, "This is how you blog about something that outrages you," and staple it to James Kirchick's forehead? Note the absence of sarcastic adjectives, and the relative paucity of adverbs. Note how the author trusts his readers do draw the appropriate conclusions from the quoted material without tacking on a condescending, "Here's what you should think" concluding paragraph. And note the absence of the conservative buzzwords "risible" and "cretinous."

May 12, 2008 4:18 PM

liberal reformer said:

Very eloquent post, Isaac, though I wouldn't  have made the default assumption that a poignant anecdote was just around the curve. From intense study, I know that there is no universal culture, that kids aren't the same everywhere, nor are adults, either. Not that radical particularists are correct in their assumptions - all is indeed in flux, as Heraclitus instructed us long ago. It is just that Arabia is a breeding ground for misogyny. And we in the West have experienced enormous advances on the gender front in the last century, something to bear in mind lest we become too complacent. Not to be too optimistic but there are liberated entities in Wahabiland. Boys do clandenstinely text girls and vice versa and there is a homosexual subculture. But the eyes of the mutaween (the religious police) are legion and such activity is dangerous.

May 12, 2008 4:20 PM

williamyard said:

The human mind limits itself with such ease. As if that renders impossible ideas not allowed.

May 12, 2008 4:23 PM

Idefix said:

No wonder they turn to terrorism... too much free-floating testosterone.

The relationship between the cousins is interesting too. Enad and Nader, both almost perfect anagrams, are the real couple here (Enad wanting to join his cousin on his honeymoon?!) with links of domination, subjection, intimidation. Sad and scary, their lives as eerily empty as their homes are devoid of furniture, almost innocent and childish in their taste (for American pop of the most commercial kind), their beliefs, their rigid, secure, protected worldview, walled off from reality.

May 12, 2008 4:28 PM

GSpinks said:

"almost innocent and childish in their taste ... their beliefs, their rigid, secure, protected worldview, walled off from reality"

Just like the Bush administration. I guess we really do have a lot in common with other countries...

May 12, 2008 4:52 PM

jkolic said:

I never fail to shudder at these stories since they always chip away a little at my deep-seated conviction that there is such a thing as universality in terms of human rights and sense of right and wrong that ultimately can and should bond us all, regardless of where we live. Much as I am determined never to surrender to notions of cultural relativism/particularism, it saddens me to see how powerfully social conditioning can alienate an individual from basic sense of decency, compassion and respect for their fellow human being. If only I should live to see the day where Arabia is no longer such a fertile ground for extreme (or indeed any) displays/sentiments of an attitude as vicious as misogyny...

May 12, 2008 4:59 PM

liberal reformer said:

Jkolic: Your convictions should be chipped away because there is no such Platonic universalism, though it is a conceit that probably has been very useful in the past. We are historicist in our orientations and trajectories but having said that, I wish also to score the particularism of the arch - reactionaries (e.g., de Maistre, Pat Buchanan) and the postmodernists (Foucault and Foucault again).

May 12, 2008 5:29 PM

nbarry said:

Saudi Arabia will always remain a disgustingly backward country as long as the royal family continues to bribe our presidents, foreign policy officials and academic institutions to hear and see no evil and nobody in the media has the presence of mind to carry out the naming and shaming of these corrupt money pocketers as a front page story.

May 12, 2008 5:42 PM

jet said:

Rhubarbs, good points made to Jamie.  Let's hope he reads them.

Leave it to the Saudi's to raise children that emulate the very animal they won't eat.

May 12, 2008 5:52 PM

liberal reformer said:

Nbarry: The Saudi - US relationship is a negatively symbiotic one. I have said for years that we need to get off the petroleum treadmill. We require - at least - a Marshall - like plan implemented, pronto.

May 12, 2008 6:01 PM

ironyroad said:

Whatever about free-floating testosterone, there must be some morbidly interiorized female energy going on -- speaking as a guy, how on earth do women put up with a civil society that has no place at all for the feminine?  How do they compensate for the public hostility?  F***-up their sons even more?  Even the old-fashioned "this is no place for a lady, ma'am" philosophy that reigned here until the 1950s recognized that there were areas of negotiation between the sexes, and it wasn't totally inflexible -- and of course there was the middle-class behavioral aspect in which women accepted male courtesies in return for the bestowal of feminine grace and humor.

Suddenly Grant and Hepburn would seem to be a good model to work toward, for Saudi Arabia at least.

May 12, 2008 6:10 PM

Rhubarbs said:

And let me add a great big, "Holy shit, these are the people we're counting on to bring an orderly transition to democracy in the Sunni states of the Middle East?" to the pile of similar sentiments here. Someday, probably someday soon, Americans are going to look back on our relationship with Saudi Arabia in the 2000s and say exactly the same things we say today about our relationship with Iran in the 1970s. "What the hell were they thinking," we will ask of our earlier selves.

This is the kind of story that makes me think of this dialogue:

www.youtube.com/watch

May 12, 2008 6:28 PM

liberal reformer said:

Rhubarbs: But I am on the moderate left and I like and sometimes employ the words "risible" and "cretinous".

May 13, 2008 8:27 AM

icarusr said:

I don't know.  

I lived in Switzerland for many years; and each year, for two months, the shores of Lake Geneva become like a cross between a tacky midway fair and a Saudi Arabian mall.  Aside from a couple of flings, I never really had much to do with the Saudis - but the overriding thing one observes in these two months is the ease with which Saudi men spend money, time and attention on Western women (and men) in nightclubs and bordellos, and on the streets (in their Bentleys).  Certainly, the expensive Russian escorts, Romanian rentboys and the thousand-dollar bottles of Champagne are not for the Swiss, but for the Saudi clientele, who are anything but seething with anger as they hump the hookers.

It is possible that they go back to the Hotel Suites and beat the crap out of their wives - but what I have seen is more rank hypocrisy than seething anger; and by far the fattest asses outside of Middle America.  If heart attack does not get them, diabetes will.  

Still, agree that SA is not an ideal destination.  Neither is Geneva in July.

May 13, 2008 1:06 PM