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10.04.2008
Conservatives, Past and Future

There's an interesting and (to me) very heartening discussion in some of the more thoughtful environs of conservatism about differences in the ways older and younger generations view the trajectory of the movement, its relationship to the GOP, and its interest in a broader political dialogue. Here's James Poulos, for instance:

Suffice it to say that the roots of internecine glumfighting run very deep in conservative DNA, and as irritated as any public figure may be to find him or herself stuck sharing an affinity-group label (like 'the movement') with rubes or snobs, the bigger picture is unquestionably the health of 'the movement' in question. The kicker is that some are inclined to measure its health by its capacity to endure, in and out of political power, as a well-funded, high-profile machine that rewards its own. And some are not. To the extent that younger commentators fall into the latter camp, they're even gloomy about what might look an awful lot to some establishment figures like the success of 'the conservative movement.'

Poulos has more to say on the subject here. There's also this, from Michael Brendan Dougherty's smart, grim take on February's CPAC conference:

The conference flattens the political passions of these conservatives, channeling their energy into national politics and away from local concerns. Thus the range of activism narrows to immigration, foreign policy, and the solipsistic goal of sustaining the conservative movement itself. This is good for keeping Beltway institutions well funded but bad for the actual work of conservatism.

Ross Douthat weighs in here:

Are young conservative writers more heterodox than their older peers? At least superficially, the answer seems like yes: If you compare the right-wing twentysomethings flitting around Washington D.C. to their elders in the world of magazines and think tanks, the younger set seems to include many fewer writers whose ideas fit neatly into the "movement-conservative" box. I have a tough time thinking of more than a couple twentysomething conservatives whose writings I encounter regularly, in fact, who have precisely the "check-all-the-boxes" politics that's fairly commonplace in the movement establishment - who are pro-war and pro-life and Norquistian on size-of-government issues and so on and so forth. Instead, you've got paleocons and Paulites, Christian libertarians and uber-neocons, plus a host of unclassifiable types. (I suppose I fall into the "unclassifiable" camp, though perhaps for no more admirable reason than my inability to make up my mind about various issues.)

What does all this betoken for the future of conservatism? Possibly nothing.... [A]s Poulos notes, many of the people who make up today's movement establishment - the talk-radio talking heads, especially - didn't come up through the Young Washington world, and it's entirely possible that tomorrow's movement-conservative establishment will be dominated, not by today's inside-the-Beltway bloggers and associate editors and research fellows, but by kids from flyover country who didn't come to Washington, but stayed home and developed the next hit talk-radio show (or website) instead, and whose views are more or less indistinguishable from the views of Hannity and Limbaugh.

And Peter Suderman has this to add:

[W]hile I certainly would like to see a revival (of sorts) in right of center politics, I’d also very much like to see a revival in right of center conservative journalism. That’s not to say there isn’t quality material being produced right now, but I get the sense that it’s fallen a step or two as of late, as too much of it has become devoted to little more than ideological bullying. And while I don’t think that’s always unreasonable (it is, after all, opinion journalism), I’d also love to see, along with greater collegiality, more curiosity, more creativity, more observation, and less fist-pounding. Writers of the conservative persuasion, or anything somewhat resembling it, ought to spend more time wondering about how the world is and less demanding that it change to suit their whims.

I know, and like, Ross and Peter, and have met Michael once. Suffice to say that I've found them all smart, sensible people with whom it is easy both to have honorable debate and to find considerable common ground. I do not know Rush Limbaugh (obviously), or even Bill Kristol, but I'm fairly confident the same would not be the case with either of them, or with most of the partisan ideological enforcers familiar to anyone who watches cable news. As Ross notes, this may not tell us anything about the future of conservatism. But here's hoping that it does.

--Christopher Orr

Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:09 PM with 2 comment(s)

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teplukhin2you said:

Sounds more like a generational shift to me. Within each of the three legs of the conservative movement you can see a distinct split between under-40 conservatives and their elders. This is especially true for the evangelicals. Younger ones are largely tolerant of homosexuality, and those who came of age in the last ten years especially are more or less comfortable with the anything-goes wild web world. A large % of younger fundies are fairly liberal on climate change and poverty issues. This is not your father's fundie movement.

There's been less dissent over the war, but that too is significant. The only really solid are of unity for the GOP going forward is on tax-and-spend issues. Norquist is more an outlier, but it's still true that the one thing that every conservative will agree upon is his hatred of "nanny state" interventionism, especially when hitched to 1960s-era identity politics hobbyhorses.

Once the war fervor dies down, and conservatives get a bit of perspective on this struggle, the will likely go back to its bread-and-butter pre-Moral Majority mode: an anti-statist platform that downplays the GOPs' kulturkampf berserkers and speaks to aspirational families of all colors. It'd be foolish to believe that such a platform will not make for a very formidable rival to our party.

April 11, 2008 1:52 AM

Robert Powell said:

Hi tep

I would hope that "tax -and-spend issues" would be an area of "solid unity" between all right-thinking Americans, if not all people in general. "Nanny state" interventionism'  has been a serious problem for us, but in other places it's caused things like the Soviet terror famines, and various other "Year Zero" phenomenon. In every case this was, of course, linked to "identity politics"--take your pick among kulaks, Jews, Tutsi's, class enemies, and what have you.

A solidly "anti-statist" platform should not be restricted to conservatives, much less Republicans. Speaking for the resurgent anarcho-syndicalist movement, we're prepared to use any ol' party infrastructure to disperse power to the people.

April 11, 2008 6:59 AM