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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
06.03.2008
Turmoil in Hillaryland

Well, that's the sense you get from this gossipy WaPo front-pager on the Clinton campaign that easily could have been headlined, "Everyone Hates Mark." But, while the article begins with the point that, even in the wake of Hillary's victories in Ohio and Texas, her campaign is still divided against itself, I wonder.

I suspect a lot of the reporting for this piece--and don't get me wrong, it's great reporting--was done before Ohio and Texas, with the expectation that it would go in the inevitable recriminations article slated to run after Hillary was knocked out on Tuesday. Which means some of the cattiest quotes (like: "'Mark blames Patti and Patti blames Mark in a circular firing squad," said an adviser who has worked for both Clintons and watched Penn, Solis Doyle, Ickes, Wolfson, Grunwald and others go at it for months. "What they don't realize is that everyone else blames them -- all of them.'") may well have been uttered before Ohio and Texas. If the Clinton campaign is really this divided after Tuesday, then she's toast. But I have a hunch that her recent victories have soothed some of the ill will, at least for the moment.

P.S. Still, it is impressive to behold just how much Hillaryland hates Penn. The Post article even has someone trying to blame him for Bill's odious Jesse Jackson remarks:

On Jan. 26, the day of the election, Penn sent an e-mail to the senior campaign staff comparing Obama's victory there to Jesse L. Jackson's two wins in the 1980s. Bill Clinton made the same comparison to reporters that day, generating even more anger among African Americans who perceived it as a way of marginalizing Obama by portraying him as a black candidate who appeals only to black voters.

I really hope Penn has taken some of the millions he's made off the campaign and put it toward hiring a food taster.

--Jason Zengerle 

Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:03 AM with 16 comment(s)

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jamie322 said:

The WaPo link does not work.

Go Duke.

March 6, 2008 9:50 AM

Jason Zengerle said:

fixed!

March 6, 2008 10:07 AM

jetzoom said:

Hard to imagine that news accounts about Penn will help Burson's reputation or WPP's revenue.

March 6, 2008 10:29 AM

tembrach said:

This is just a hatchet job on Penn. Penn is the only one in the campaign who is an adult. The rest are truculent children who could not find their own butts using both hands.

It is a shame that certain members of the HRC campaign can't recognize when a political genius is in their midst. W/O Penn, the campaign would never have recovered from the tailspin. But they did recover on Tuesday, courtesy of Penn's brilliant strategy and media ads

March 6, 2008 10:36 AM

guyminuslife said:

Tembrach, I take it you ARE Mark Penn.

To the extent that Hillary is successful, it's her own brilliance and her Clinton name-brand. To the extent that she's unsuccessful, it's her own lack of charisma and her arrogant, sequestered campaign advisement.

March 6, 2008 10:54 AM

stgla said:

I can't remember which commentator said it last week but when you win you're a genius and when you lose you're a fool, sometimes in the same week.

March 6, 2008 11:06 AM

rachels said:

The article also makes the point that everyone hates Mark--except Bill and Hillary.   I think the issue is that they should have kept him in his pollster roll and had someone else use his results to map out strategy.  According to the Times, that was what Wolfson suggested.

March 6, 2008 11:17 AM

michael said:

See, I'm not surprised there isn't any wincing as staff, bad-advice givers and temps get tossed overboard. That sort of loyalty is cheap and fleeting.

Any wonder they have to reach back into the dust bin to replace current failures with less recent failures.

But there must be amnesia as people who run for office don't recall who was used, abused and not holding office now (but are w/Barack).

The localest of yokels and decades of seniority in Congress owe their unemployment to the Bill Machine. It's like watching a zombie movie as the walking dead from the 90's are paraded but the camera doesn't show the knives in their back.

What makes any Super think their vote is a ticket to anywhere?

Wake up!

Check out the entry free to be a FOB in this century. They're both set for life and the odds of anyone demanding a favor after the convention is 0.

It's fine for the door to door salesmen who get fat commissions and are ready to pitch another line to another candidate in the next cycle. That's life in the circus.

I'll have no sympathy for anyone who has a real job now and is left twisting in the wind when Bill gets back on his World Tour.

He's probably been grumpy because he knows each day of back slapping is costing him the biggest bucks he's seen.

My advice? Get off that bus before it takes you to somewhere you won't want to be.

(If I wasn't lazy each line above would be supported with a footnote from my stacks of TNR)

March 6, 2008 11:20 AM

BHLnyc said:

It's the pity, stupid.

Hillary's bounce is owed entirely to a Democratic electorate that does not want to see her shamed and humiliated the way she was by Bill. Every time she plays the sympathy card, she enjoys a resurgence. We saw it happen in NH, on Super Tuesday and this week. It's so shameful and sad.

Can anyone imagine Margaret Thatcher pulling this crap?

March 6, 2008 11:30 AM

Rhubarbs said:

But BHLnyc, Margaret Thatcher earned her success on her own merits -- she didn't trade on her husband's name as a shortcut to influence and position. So any comparison between the two isn't fair to Hillary. The apt comparison would be to George W. Bush, who similarly exploited family connections to achieve position beyond his own talents. And yes, as a matter of fact, I could imagine Dubya pulling this crap.

March 6, 2008 12:17 PM

rachels said:

"Every time she plays the sympathy card, she enjoys a resurgence."

She's been playing the sympathy card since before Wisconsin, and it didn't do much for her there.  On the other hand, Obama has been a bit more cocky of late, and that's hurting him.  But mostly, her wins were due to more favorable demographics in both states, along with the NAFTA flap and the "Hillary momentum" story in the MSM.

March 6, 2008 12:19 PM

teplukhin2you said:

jetzoom - as they say in Penn's biz, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Somehow I think he and Burson-Marsteller will do fine.

March 6, 2008 12:20 PM

ChanRobt said:

Repeating what I wrote on the same topic elsewhere:

The problem with most people involved in politics is that they're political.  They are the worst kind of assholes you hated at work.  

The kind, who while most were doing they real work, they were doing the maneuvering, angling, boss sucking up, and other bullshit that gets you ahead in corporations.  But, adds nothing of value.

Most of politics is a drag on the country and most of it adds no value.  In fact, most of it is self-serving, takes the wealth produced by others and redistributes it to cronies or constituents who are not producing anything.

All the infighting you are seeing now in the Clinton campaign is a microcosm of all that is useless and hateful in the American political process.

A pox on them all.

March 6, 2008 3:38 PM

ChanRobt said:

Susan Estrich ran one of the worst presidential campaigns in history for Dukakis (admittedly not much to work with).  But sh'es been a prominent talking head ever since.  Losing to a tsunami doesn't seem to have hurt her much.

March 6, 2008 3:40 PM

ChanRobt said:

One of the reasons Hillary won in big this week is because voters don't like to be told by the media what to think and how to vote.

I believe that the death watch on Hillary (the second or third one this campaign) pissed a lot of people off.  They said, screw you guys, we're going to give her a reprieve.

Not to mention, the Obama hype has gotten so thick and so obviously media biased, that people were repelled by it.

The press insists on being a player in the political process, and they are.  Only sometimes they have an effect exactly opposite of what they are hoping.

March 6, 2008 3:43 PM

teplukhin2you said:

What Chan said. The older you get, the more annoying is the raves-'n'-koolaid stuff.  

I wonder how people would have responded to HRC and BHO had we not had this ridiculous media hatefest for the one and lovefest for the other.

March 6, 2008 5:37 PM