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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
29.02.2008
Glenn Greenwald's Selective Outrage

Yesterday, Dayo pointed to Glenn Greenwald's attack on John McCain for accepting the endorsement of the evangelical preacher John Hagee. The pastor of Cornerstone Church of San Antonio is indeed a pea-brained bigot (so much so that the equally obnoxious Bill Donohue of the Catholic League has denounced the presumptive Republican nominee), and it's sad -- and uncharacteristic -- of McCain to accept his support. Those people unsatisfied with Barack Obama's equivocations about Louis Farrakhan should have the intellectual consistency to admit that McCain's embrace of Hagee is far more troubling.

But Glenn Greenwald really has little credibility on the subject of deeming which individuals are fit for mainstream support. In December, just a few weeks before my article on Ron Paul's political and intellectual mileu appeared, both Ezra Klein and Dana Goldstein of The American Prospect took issue with Greenwald and Andrew Sullivan, who, at the time, were the leaders of Paul's amen corner in the respectable liberal blogosphere. While most of the Prospect writers' critique was predicated upon the specious contention that self-proclaimed libertarians must support abortion rights, Goldstein did highlight some of Paul's objectionable newsletters which had long been a part of the public record. This ought to have bothered Greenwald -- who regularly goes after the right for its bigotry -- but apparently the Texas Congressman's rabid neo-con baiting was just too attractive to the excitable man over at Salon. Rather ominously, Goldstein also noted that, as a result of a piece she had written about Democrats and white male voters, "about a dozen of the hundred odd emails I received referenced support for Ron Paul, which at the time, I brushed off as a curiosity, a case of the white supremacists wrongly seeing an ally in Paul because of his wacky ideas about monetary policy and the threat of a North American Union" (now, we know that this white supremacist support for Ron Paul is hardly a "curiosity.") 

Throughout these debates, the Torquemada of the liberal blogosphere ignored the mountains of evidence concerning Paul's fringe, right-wing beliefs and associations (painstakingly highlighted by liberal blogger Dave Niewert, whose efforts Greenwald labeled "distortions and smears" ) for which Greenwald would have readily denounced all manner of Republicans. Several weeks later, once Ron Paul was revealed in his own words, Sullivan (somewhat) recanted his support. The Cato Institute and Reason magazine jettinsoned themselves from the man they once championed as the great libertarian hope. Noticeably absent from this series of recriminations was the Very Serious Glenn Greenwald.

So before I heed Greenwald's drive-by denunciations, perhaps he can first end his conspicuous silence on the man he once championed, apologize to Goldstein, Klein and Neiwert, and stop providing liberal justifications for the presidential candidate of choice for white nationalists.

--James Kirchick

Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:30 AM with 18 comment(s)

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miceelf said:

Obama's "equivocations"???? IN what sense has he been equivocal?

February 29, 2008 11:52 AM

esdaniels said:

So if Greenwald is wrong on Paul his argument about the logical inconsistency of grilling Obama on Farrakhan while giving McCain a pass on Hagee isn't to be entertained, even if it's right?  I guess for similar reasons I should never listen to any argument from you, however meritorious, based on your incessant and substance-free cheerleading for neo-con arguments in favor of Middle East war and domination?  Alrighty then!

February 29, 2008 12:05 PM

Eos said:

Obama carefully rejected Farrakhan's anti-semitic statements but declined to reject his support. Watch the tape.

February 29, 2008 12:07 PM

liebig said:

Greenwald never "championed" Ron Paul.  He did express pleasure at the fact that there was one person in the Republican field who did not ascribe to the same authoritarian beliefs as the others.  It is misleading to suggest that Greenwald endorsed Paul or urged anyone to vote for him.

February 29, 2008 12:13 PM

Rhubarbs said:

Dude, 1400 characters is just too long a paragraph for this medium. If you can't say what you mean to say without writing a 1,400+ character paragraph, then you're either writing something for print, not web, publication, or you haven't actually figured out how to say what you want to say.

That question of craft aside, it becomes increasingly clear that we've been wrong about Kirchick's aim here at New Republic. He is not, in fact, trying to become mini-Marty. He's trying to become mini-Hitchens. More ideas, please, less attacking ideological purity. (I don't mean to defend Greenwald here. I just don't care one way or the other about him. And that's the point. Whether Greenwald is right or wrong on this point -- and Kirchick opens by admitting that Greenwald is right -- is unaffected by whether Greenwald was right or wrong about some past question.)

Final point: how is it "uncharacteristic" of McCain to embrace support from odious Christian rightists? Since 2002, embracing the Falwells of the world has in fact been a very characteristic McCain activity.

February 29, 2008 12:13 PM

kgrant1054 said:

To Kirchick every one equivocates unless they volunteer to murder folks like Farrakhan on Stony Island Avenue.  

Kirchick is the modern reincarnation of Chief Judge William Stoughton.

February 29, 2008 12:13 PM

roidubouloi said:

In the sense of a gratuitous unsubstantiated smear by Jamie Kirchick.  In that sense.

February 29, 2008 12:15 PM

esdaniels said:

The fact that the TNR continues to have this faction of guys who lust for war and demonize anyone who has a kind word to say for Arabs or any foreigner who disagrees with the neo-con line is just embarrassing for an ostensibly liberal magazine.  The tone-deaf, one-note Johnny appeals to hate and war of Peretz and his mini-Me above, as well as the self-parodic Wieseltier (Obama doesn't have "the hardness I seek?"  Um, good luck finding your "hardness," dude), are beneath the work of guys like Chait, Foer, Scheiber, et al.  They can do better than this!

February 29, 2008 12:20 PM

mmathog said:

WTF?

Greenwald never supported Ron Paul, at most, he ignored the (very convincing I will admit) circumstantial evidence that Paul is a racist.

February 29, 2008 12:25 PM

prnoonan said:

You totally missed the point of Greenwald's post.  It was MSM criticism.  It's ridiculous that people like Russert force Obama to talk about every brother (figuratively) who says something controversial -- Harry f-ing Belafonte?? -- but have NO role in his campaign.  McCain, meanwhile, can actively embrace these people and never have such questions posed.  

February 29, 2008 12:30 PM

esdaniels said:

I don't think he actually missed the point.  As kgrant noted, clearly black Muslims scare ol' Jamie a good deal more than crazy white evangelicals, even if they both traffic in hate.  Another theory might be, and I'll open this to our lovely studio audience, that Jamie is a McCain apologist eager to deflect criticism of him by impugning the source.  Historically, is JK a McCain shill, not exactly a rare thing in the MSM?

February 29, 2008 12:49 PM

ejbenjamin said:

One of the interesting things about Kirchick's posts is that he seems only rarely to assert his own opinion or make arguments of his own.  Instead, he puts a lot of energy into attacking the people with whom he apparently disagrees.

It's a very convenient way to write a belligerent post.  Nobody can disagree with the substance of an argument if there isn't actually any substance there in the first place.

The normal pundit's approach consists of three steps:

1. Make an argument.

2. Consider the responses to your argument.

3. Insult the people you disagree with.

Kirchick skips step one!

Perhaps if he could calmly present a case for his neoconservative view of the world, we could all have a conversation with him.  But he's not interested in a conversation.

February 29, 2008 1:05 PM

tomeg said:

Jamie, have you really nothing (well, hardly anything) to write about save your idiosyncratic and typically negative assessments of other people's unimportant behavior? So small.

February 29, 2008 1:07 PM

ryanmacd said:

"...the excitable man over at SALON..."

"...the Torquemada of the liberal blogosphere..."

Mr. Pot, I see that you've met Sir Kettle.

February 29, 2008 2:11 PM

rhartzell said:

Thank you, TNR & Kirchick.  You have allowed me finally to make up my mind & trash my upcoming renewal notice after 20+ years.  

Although this particular piece of junk writing isn't the outrage that would normally make one part company (and I do not usually go out of my way to defend Greenwald), it's just simply the cumulative effect of the junk writing growing ever more prevalent in the last year or so.

For what you are providing this reader, I can save $80 & read NRO for free, and I would not waste ten minutes with NRO.  So the problem is (re)solved.

Good-bye

February 29, 2008 10:16 PM

liebig said:

Wow, Kirchick: You're a popular guy!

March 1, 2008 12:59 PM

sam314 said:

"...liberal blogger Dave Niewert, whose efforts Greenwald labeled 'distortions and smears'..."

After reading both pieces, I guess there is a chance that Greenwald was inaccurate when describing Niewert's piece as "'distortions and smears" but that is only if Niewert was truly unaware of the things that Greenwald so clearly pointed out in response. If that is the case, then Niewert would fall into the incompetent category and which is worse, being called a liar or being called incompetent? Does it matter? If Greenwald had known, I'm sure he would have labeled the effort "factually incorrect writing by an incompetent blogger" instead of "'distortions and smears" but I'm sure he figured it was safe to assume Niewert was competent.

Words of advice: sometimes less is more.

You seem to have some personal beef with Greenwald (since that was the entire point of this post). A post about that would be much more entertaining to readers (IMO).

March 1, 2008 7:19 PM

gperez- said:

"You seem to have some personal beef with Greenwald (since that was the entire point of this post). A post about that would be much more entertaining to readers (IMO)."

I would pay to see this pissy little waif of a pundit try to best Greenwald in a formal debate.  

Maybe then he would realize that there's more to argumentation than empty condescension and huffy denouncements.

Then again, I don't read Kirchick for insight.

It's nice to have this third-rate journo to kick around. He embodies all the collective qualities of the failed political movement to which he's hitched his wagon: arrogance, incompetence, and dishonesty.  

It's like kicking the entire neocon movement in the shins every time I respond to a Kirchick post.

March 2, 2008 3:39 AM