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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
22.02.2008
I'm OK, You're Really (Really, Really) OK

It’s been theorized (by Mickey Kaus and Maureen Dowd, among others) that Hillary Clinton is the beneficiary of misfortune and some of its attendant states: enfeeblement, debasement, etc.

This is a resonant theory (and a morally complex one, in terms of its concurrent embrace-of-victimhood critique; my colleague Noam Scheiber recently made the point that voters don’t quite want Hillary to win or lose). But it also tells us something about Barack Obama’s success thus far.

The second point first: Obama understands that for him to advance, the electorate must feel relevant. His rhetoric is about addressing voters directly, making them feel potent and vital, awake and alive.

For Hillary, it’s a very different story ... or is it? The fact is that voter self-empowerment is at the heart of things, for both candidates. Voters (and pundits) respond to Hillary’s pathos because it gives them the chance to sanctify her, to resurrect her--and to make themselves feel empowered in the process.

There’s a puissant--to say nothing of pathological--psychological dynamic at work here. Put simply, voters feel empowered when they can empower.

This is why Hillary succeeds when she seems cast down or out, as she is now.

In fact, she’s very much on the ropes, but if there’s a way back into the ring, it lies in ignoring Obama (and Bill, for that matter) and paying more attention to the voters--specifically their need to be needed.

Hillary’s advisers don’t seem to know which tack to take--the "martyr" strategy, which has sometimes worked to her favor, or the “discredit” strategy, which has been pursued and continues to be floated (though with diminishing returns).

Really, though, each tactic--modesty or assault--seems ill-fated on its own. An amalgamation seems to be what’s called for, one that draws on both themes. Hillary’s strategy, then, should be one of flattery, of a sort. She should address the electorate directly--and thus factor equality into the voter equation: “She’s talking with me, not to me.”

Obama, again, has grasped this. He makes voters comfortable with their ideals. More importantly, he seems to intuitively understand that voters aren’t so much hungry for hope and change as for attention and inclusion (admittedly its own kind of change).

If Hillary has a chance, it’s not as a consensus-builder but as an esteem-builder.

--Jessica K. Pavone

Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 6:27 PM with 28 comment(s)

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mtwill11 said:

This is the most idiotic kind of political writing.   Absolutely idiotic.

February 22, 2008 7:09 PM

teplukhin2you said:

"Puissant," good one. Add that to the Peretzian inventory of $10 words.

February 22, 2008 7:19 PM

blackton said:

"talking with me" huh? by giving speeches? Obama doesn't talk with us, he implores us to become part of the process by volunteering in the peace corps for college tuition, for example. At this point, how can she talk with us since she has been saying she already has the solutions? With Obama, we are the solution, with Hillary, she is. It is way too late for her to change that course.

Yes, I know that is a bit of rhetorical nonsense, but it is the best I can do.

Hillary's best chance is to have a debate every night. What, she can't, oh well then, she doesn't have a chance.

February 22, 2008 7:21 PM

blackton said:

mtwill11, whoa be nicer to the new girl on the block. Give her a chance to get her sea legs, this was an effort, not the best mind you, but it is a beginning, for truly idiotic political writing I suggest you read jamie Kirchick.

February 22, 2008 7:30 PM

williamyard said:

"Obama understands that for him to advance, the electorate must feel relevant. His rhetoric is about addressing voters directly, making them feel potent and vital, awake and alive."

To know what a man understands, one must first acquire supporting evidence--e.g., asking the man a question. Did Obama say that this is what he understands?

If he did, his head's up his ass. Obama could drop off the face of the earth tomorrow and we, the voters, would be no more or less relevant than we are now and always have been. We don't need no stinking Obama. And we know it.

As for Ms. Clinton, the thought of her as having even the remotest capacity to be "an esteem-builder" is, um...maybe off the mark a little. I've known crank dealers who do more for people's self-esteem than the junior Senator from New York. Anyone who could derive psychological benefit from Clinton is likely in greater need of a feeding tube.

The underlying theme of this breathtakingly patronizing post is that voters are semi-conscious cretins with whom candidates may toy at will. How despicably inaccurate, not to mention sad.

February 22, 2008 7:40 PM

blackton said:

ah, williamyard, have mercy on this young lass, it seems that this is her virgin posting here on TNR (at least I don't remember anything else) she is doubtless some fresh faced 22 year old striving to be clever. I would have thought an old master like you would be more gentle as you plucked her...umm... writing.

February 22, 2008 8:15 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

22...isn't that a bit over-the-hill for TNR?

February 22, 2008 8:21 PM

CRS9TNR said:

Jessica is on the mark her and has probably talked to a few woters who cast their ballot for Hillary.

I was surprised talking to a few 50 year old women who couldn't wait to vote for Hilary.  They were so busy with life they didn't have time to get caught up in the MoveOn Democratic Story lines.  They just wanted to make their point and finally have their say.

Obama needs to energize folks to get them involved and let them think they will do something.  But the last guy I remember like that is Jimmy Carter.  In 1980 everyone thought we needed an honest outsider.  Boy were they wrong.  But they felt like they were doing something.

Peretz is caught up in this too.

Compared to Hillary and the establishment Obama may look good, but I think a lot of middle of the road voters, when they get involved, will wonder what the Democrats were thinking.

Hillary should allow the voters into the process like Obama does and compare Obama to Jimmy Carter.  Ask Obama how his middle east policy is different from Jimmy Carters.  What will he do with Russia or China, Boycott Olympics?  People thought Bill was Carter II.  But Bill really was different and mildly successful.  

But what do I know?  I picked Edwards.

February 22, 2008 8:51 PM

anonevent said:

Come on williamyard, that's too cynical even for you - ok, maybe not, but it went a bit far.  What do you think people are responding to when they show up at 4 in the morning to see Obama?  If it was just to change presidents, they could have stayed with Hillary.

February 22, 2008 8:54 PM

epackard-02 said:

Ms. Pavone appears to need a bit of editorial direction, but I think her basic point is true.

Making people feel like they are savvy and can accomplish things is effective stuff.  

Ask Madison Avenue about all those ads that tell people they are smart and can take on the world.

February 22, 2008 9:19 PM

ryanmacd said:

Puissant.

Kiddies, do remember to substitute a banal French word for any serviceable anglo-saxon one. Instead of writing: "Hillary is toast!", declare: "Hillary is pain grillé!"  Why blog that "Asking Hillary to transmogrify into an esteem-builder is much like the butcher asking his cur of beef to come back to life," one should exclaim: "Demander Hillary to transmogrify into an esteem-builder is comme le butcher asking his cut of boeuf to come back to life!"

February 22, 2008 9:21 PM

JSmith125 said:

This is not a bad post, just a little undeveloped. It's a big and difficult question, what motivates millions of people to vote -- let alone volunteer, etc. -- when individually no one voter ever decides it (although we came close to that in 2000). The general idea is candidates offer more or less compelling narratives, and that the most compelling play up the importance of the people to whom the campaign is appealing, is consistent with some current theories in this area. What the post is missing is some suggestion of how HIllary could "empower" anyone or even convey such a message. What should she do or say that she's not already trying? Through what medium? Would it be a different TV ad campaign, an informercial-type address to the public (like Ross Perot used very effectively), a differently formulated theme or slogan, or what? Personally I'd be happy to hear more from Jessica on this.

February 22, 2008 9:27 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

Pauvre Jessica...seriously, though, I didn't think it was so bad (a little wordy for sure, but that's pot calling the kettle black on my part).

February 22, 2008 11:22 PM

parnest said:

I'm sorry, it's a bad post. Was the blogger overexposed to post-modernism as an undergraduate? ("concurrent embrace-of-victimhood critique", "to sanctify her, to resurrect her", "misfortune and its attendant states", etc., etc.). mtwill11 nailed it.

February 22, 2008 11:34 PM

sleepyavl said:

The post is idiotic. It reads like a college bathroom screed.

February 23, 2008 4:36 AM

skipper2379 said:

I liked the post, but I'm verbose myself. I think most political writing is far too conventional; this is creative and, I think credible, but not provable. But, as Montaigne said, 'what do I know?' There are so many variables that make up history, but the needs of the ego are a constant. So it's a good place to look to explain things, but it is inherently speculative and can sound like psychobabble. What motivates humans is, however, ultimately one of the most important questions, and we shouldn't be scared to examine it even if insensitive convention-mongers will call it idiotic. And what the hell is a "college bathroom screed"?

February 23, 2008 8:11 AM

sdemuth said:

OK, Granted some of the post was over the top, but if this:

"Voters (and pundits) respond to Hillary’s pathos because it gives them the chance to sanctify her, to resurrect her--and to make themselves feel empowered in the process."

isn't what happened in New Hampshire, I'm badly mistaken.  Heck, after her supposed "valedictory" closing in this week's debate,  I even said sympathetic things about her to my wife.

I think one of Clinton's problems in making a sustained connection to votes, is that she plays against our gender associations at a very deep level - if she had Obama's power to warmly inspire and convince us that we have better in us than we've been able to harness, she'd be a perfect mother figure become politician.  Instead, she is (most of the time) much more like the distant father who knows everything, but never connects emotionally.  In a woman, that creates a huge dissonance for us.   When she appears vulnerable, at least we men can see one of those women in need of protection for whom we're so damned hard-wired to want to do something heroic.

February 23, 2008 9:23 AM

lymon1 said:

I thought it was a good post -- I'd extend the point to argue some of this dynamic explains Hillary's Latino support.

February 23, 2008 10:04 AM

allante said:

In the final week or two of the Humphrey/Nixon campaign, it seemed many people finally tired of Nixon's ultra-smooth-running steamroller of a campaign and began to gravitate toward the regular-guy Humphrey. He ran a telethon, answering phoned-in questions from voters, and in the background technicians tripping over cables and half empty coffee cups on tables were clearly visible. Maybe it would work for Hillary, too. A set consisting of folding hotel banquet tables, everyday people (wo)manning phones and snacking from deli platters in the background, Hillary's ability to crisply answer each and every question, contrasted with the technical imperfections and lifelike mild chaos of the overall scene. Maybe that's a way she could finally connect, while reminding voters just how over-produced and theatrical Obama really is.

February 23, 2008 10:41 AM

ehcollins said:

Yeah. HRC is really vulnerable, like when she says"You're a PLAGIARIST ,but I'm honored to share share this stage with you.She is not theatrical at all. As BC said"Give me a break!"

February 23, 2008 11:14 AM

marcellusw101 said:

Welcome Jessica. Don't mind the haters. Good guideline for future posts though: Final version = first draft minus 25%...

February 23, 2008 11:45 AM

timteeter said:

What the hell's wrong with "puissant"?  Would anyone, arguendo, prefer a few classicisms instead?  I mean, who cares if the hoi polloi don't understand such things?  Perhaps we should consider the Sitz im Leben of Ms. Pavone's composition, id est her need to one up her fellow TNR interns, before condemning her choice of vocabulary.  Che sera sera.  Besides, didn't both Obama and Clinton speak up for foreign language instruction at the last debate?

February 23, 2008 12:21 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

allante,

I thought she was going for that with her Hallmark thing. But the choice of venue was indicative, and when I saw the clips on the Daily Show it was clearly a Potemkin event (to plagiarize a fellow TalkBacker, whose name escapes me).

February 23, 2008 12:54 PM

Rhubarbs said:

marcellus, for a blog post, I'd say final draft = first draft minus 40 percent. At least. And no paragraph longer than about 600 words. If anywhere in your first draft, you have written a paragraph that cannot be cut beneath 600 words, then you're not writing a blog post, you're writing a print article.

I just wish someone would staple both of those rules to Kirchick's forehead. Or maybe tattoo one on the back of each of his hands.

February 23, 2008 1:50 PM

arock1978 said:

You guys are really tough hiding behind your screen names.  I doubt any of you cowards would have been as bluntly critical in person.  You're children.

Regardless of whether or not you like the post's writing, the thrust of it was at least reasonable.  She was putting her observations into a narrative that you can either buy into or not.  Rather than call it idiotic, add something to the discussion.  Yeah, the best your going to get is conjecture, but what the hell's wrong with that?

I like the content of TNR considerably more than any of your responses.

February 23, 2008 1:50 PM

williamyard said:

arock1978

The lady was disrespectful to voters, and I called her on it. It's my prerogative to do so.

You say the thrust of her post was reasonable? I think not. I find it undemocratic and superficial. Let TNR tell me when I can stop commenting.

As for being a "coward," why don't you email me at bashofan@yahoo.com and we'll work out a time and place when arock1978 (whoever that is) can call me a "coward" in person? I'll be easy to spot: I'm old, fat, pony-tailed, and I have little patience for bullshit.

February 23, 2008 5:15 PM

jm_rice said:

Rhubarbs, as a chronic offender from the old Website, I'd say no more than 600 words should suffice for a whole post, much less a paragraph.  Maybe that's what they're trying to tell us over at Talkback, by disabling paragraphs, though maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

Hey, Yard, though some Obama fans do seem to be approaching the state, "semi-conscious cretins" seems a bit of a reach.  But this one...

"Put simply, voters feel empowered when they can empower."

She's calling that pathology?  How 'bout tautology?

My only quibble with Pavone is, in a blog already teeming with Obama flacks, do we need yet another?

February 23, 2008 8:45 PM

blackton said:

arock1978, get a grip, I post under my name. In fact it is you who are treating Ms. Pavone like a child. In the blog world, especially as focus point, you have to be able to take it on the chin. If any of our rants hurts her feelings, she should get another job. We are criticizing what she wrote, not her. As I said, she is new, give her time. If the plank can survive Kirchick, it can survive anyone.

February 24, 2008 12:54 PM