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19.02.2008
(Relatively) Huge Turnout Predicted In Hawaii

Despite Hillary's aggressive attempt to mobilize the local machine, early news from Hawaii sounds good for Obama. Caucus turnout--which has never exceeded 5,000--is expected to reach as high as 12,000 (the Obama people are saying 15,000-18,000).

As Noam pointed out, very high turnout is probably good for Obama. It sounds like history may be on his side, too:

[P]arty activists said the last time they can recall so much interest in the caucuses was in 1988, when the Rev. Jesse Jackson brought new people to the party but ultimately lost here to Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis. Progressives encouraged by U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio in 2004 helped drive caucus turnout to about 4,000, the highest since 1988.

Obama has been playing the "local card" pretty aggressively, even saying to a major newspaper, "Not to pull rank, but I grew up in Hawai'i." But he's also been quite substantive, promising federal funds for mass transit along Oahu's hellishly congested highways. (That sounds fantastically tantalizing, and I haven't even spent that much time there.)

I also saw one report that Obama's organizers were phone banking weeks ahead of the Clinton people.

The local press has been fawning over Chelsea Clinton, and we shouldn't underestimate the power of local bigwigs--nor the "experience" argument. But it's quite posssible that just won't be enough.

--Barron YoungSmith

Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:26 PM with 8 comment(s)

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sullydog said:

Slightly OT, but I'm watching McCain's victory speech. If this is any indication of his general election strategy and persona, he's got an even steeper slope to climb than I thought, especially against Obama. He's weak on economic issues, and on foreign policy it's "been there, done that."

At least so far.

February 19, 2008 9:15 PM

ralphnelle said:

If I had a nickel for every time McCain said "my friends, I"...

February 19, 2008 9:18 PM

virginiacentrist said:

Sullydog:

The most surprising thing about McCain's speech is that he survived it. He's still alive. He beat the odds again.

February 19, 2008 9:26 PM

mmathog said:

sullydog, mccain's lacking on economics is downright shocking, appalling. I'm not even being partisan here (my criticism does not apply to romney, guiliani, or even nutty ron paul), but McCain simply doesn't know, economically, how A relates to B relates to C. It's ugly.

He's reduced to saying 'I'll cut taxes' and 'I'll have experts...' that's all. If we had a real discourse in this country, Ron Paul's question 42 minutes into that MSNBC debate a coupla weeks ago would've ended McCain's candidacy.

February 19, 2008 9:51 PM

sullydog said:

On the flip side, Obama is giving a great extemporaneous speech. But he REALLY needs to wind it up. He's having too much fun and losing track of time. Brevity, soul of wit. I have to imaging there's an advisor in front of the stage pointing frantically at his watch....

February 19, 2008 10:22 PM

anonevent said:

I have friends who believe that McCain wouldn't survive the presidency.  He's one you really have to worry about who his veep is.  What if it's Huckabee?

February 19, 2008 10:40 PM

ralphnelle said:

Hawaii looks like a blowout.

The more I read TNR's posts on "maybe X isn't so good for Obama after all," the dumber I seem to my friends and family. That is particularly true re VA, WI, and HI. I'd be upset, but the posts were very reasonable--nobody could have predicted what we're seeing in the democratic party right now: _Latinos_ are drifting toward the black candidate? It's fantastic stuff.

February 20, 2008 3:17 AM

The Plank said:

As previously noted , Hawaii caucus turnout has never been above 5,000. The Obama camp's pie-in-the

February 20, 2008 10:52 AM