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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
11.02.2008
The Clintons' Charm Offensive

Jason Rae, a 21-year-old super-delegate from Wisconsin, has not only had breakfast with Chelsea, he's gotten a phone call from Bill:

Former President Clinton called Rae on his cell phone, Jan. 25, the night before the South Carolina primary.

Rae was about to head out to dinner with friends when his phone rang and the screen said, "Number withheld." The voice on the other end said: "Please hold for the former president" and then a familiar voice said "Hey Jason, it's Bill here."

"I started to think, is this real? I am a junior in college and Bill Clinton is talking to me?" Rae said as he recalled the phone call.

Clinton talked about Hillary Clinton's electability and gave Rae an update on how things were looking on the ground in South Carolina. He then regaled Rae with stories about his travels to Wisconsin as president and the cities he visited during that time.

Impressively (especially for a 21 year old), Rae says he won't endorse until after the Wisconsin primary.

P.S. While Hillary has Bill and Chelsea making her case to Rae, it looks like Obama has . . . John Kerry. Uh, two words of advice for the Obama people: Scarlett Johansson. 

--Jason Zengerle 

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:56 PM with 40 comment(s)

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marcellusw101 said:

Or how about Teddy K? Also...a 21-year-old superdelegate?!? These are the people that could be deciding the Democratic nominee? How do you get to be a SD when you're barely old enough to drink?

February 11, 2008 4:24 PM

arsonplus said:

Scarlett and Kal Penn ... put your thinking cap on Jason.

February 11, 2008 4:24 PM

stgla said:

I just got my robocall from Adrian Fenty (on my cell phone).  I'm holding out for a live call from Scarlett.

February 11, 2008 4:25 PM

paffoab said:

Are you kidding me?  This is how one of the two major parties goes about deciding who to nominat for President?  The fact that the Dems dreamed up a primary process where stuff like this happens gives one pause as to whether they are fit to hold elected office.  As if no one could foresee the possible train-wreck between mandatory proportional allocation of earned delegates, and the requirement that the nominee gain a majority of total delegates, including unelected "super-delegates."  

February 11, 2008 4:30 PM

drdannyu said:

Seriously, a 21-year-old superdelegate?  How is this possible?

February 11, 2008 4:32 PM

psantillana said:

No, really, please someone explain how this guy got to be a superdelegate.

February 11, 2008 4:38 PM

boneill said:

Yeah, nothing against the dude, but reading that made me sick.  So, we can have a 21-yr-old, and he gets courted like that?  That is democracy.  

If Scarlett called me and told me to vote for Ron Paul I think I would.

February 11, 2008 4:46 PM

fougasseu said:

A 21 yr.-old-Superdelegate? It can't be true.

Where is the list of superdelegates? Alexander became king when he was 20. Maybe Jason Rae is some kind of super human anointed by the gods...or maybe his dad's a billionaire.

February 11, 2008 4:54 PM

fougasseu said:

Is this posting accurate?

Shouldn't it read: "The Clintons Charm is Offensive"?

February 11, 2008 4:56 PM

bcbaird said:

I thought superdelegates were supposed to be present current and former elected officials, or at least from the party elite.

I mean, who did this guy blackmail to get his superdelegate status?

fougasseu: Nice.

February 11, 2008 5:04 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

"Uh, two words of advice for the Obama people: Scarlett Johansson."

Can I be a superdelegate? Please? (At 24, I could be the old man of the group)

February 11, 2008 5:05 PM

drdannyu said:

If Scarlett called me, I'd ask if she'd ever looked into acting lessons.

February 11, 2008 5:08 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

For those who keep asking, the article has a first page:

"Rae was elected as a DNC member at the Wisconsin state party convention in June 2004. He was 17 years old at the time but there are no party rules that say a DNC member has to be of voting age. Rae ran against and defeated the president of the state firefighters' union and a state legislator."

abcnews.go.com/.../Story

Still doesn't explain why/how he won though. Incidentally, he will be casting his superdelegate vote before having ever voted for president.

February 11, 2008 5:09 PM

arsonplus said:

You know, now that I think about this story kind of brought this word to mind ... [ ethnic colloquialism suspended ] but maybe that's just me.

February 11, 2008 5:26 PM

Androscoggin said:

I might vote for Mike Gravel if Scarlett Johansson called me.

February 11, 2008 5:27 PM

epicciuto said:

drdan, as ever, we see eye to eye on acting ability. Although, bless her heart, I don't think that's what got her famous. And, I have to say, even Clive Owen calling me couldn't convince me to change my vote. But I'm open to him trying (Clive, if you're reading this...). Alas, so far all I've gotten is the same Adrian Fenty robo-call as stgla.

But this kid's 21 years old. Setting aside how the hell he got to be a superdelegate, it does indeed take an impressive amount of self-assurance to say, "Eh, I'll see" to one of the only two presidents you remember. When I was 21, I probably would have told Pol Pot I'd vote for his wife, if he called me.

February 11, 2008 5:28 PM

boneill said:

DrDan, if Scarlett calls you transfer it over to me.  I think I would, um, appreciate it more.

February 11, 2008 5:31 PM

boneill said:

epic, you'd tell Pol Pot you'd do the same now.  I know you color your face with Khmer Rouge.

February 11, 2008 5:32 PM

haeryung said:

....and poor Schuster was suspended for his statement???

February 11, 2008 5:33 PM

nunziobal said:

Acccording to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel (jsonline.com) the young man is a member of the Democratic National Committee.  So he must paid his dues in sweat and shoe leather to get that post so young.

February 11, 2008 5:34 PM

Rhubarbs said:

I'm not so sure, Jason: I've heard Scarlett Johansson in interviews. A fantastic actress? Yes. Extraordinarily hot example of the aesthetic benefits of America's ethnic melting pot? Absolutely. Even remotely connected to reality, mentally? No. She seems both really smart and fantastically ignorant in the couple of interviews I've seen.

So I don't think a phone call from Johansson would be of much benefit. A personal visit? Now we're talking ...

February 11, 2008 5:53 PM

epicciuto said:

But, Bone, I use SHining Path gloss and brown-shirt taupe eyeshadow, so who knows where my loyalties lie? I just hope they don't all call on the same day. Awkward!

February 11, 2008 6:05 PM

teplukhin2you said:

If Scarlet were to call me I'd ask her to arrange a test or two with Dr Dan's lab first

February 11, 2008 6:29 PM

Wonkette said:

John McCain and Barack Obama have massive leads in our triple-Siamese primary. When you attach DC to Maryland and Virginia, our dumb little city almost matters! Almost. [Real Clear Politics]The thing to remember about Democrats is that none of them..

February 11, 2008 6:51 PM

psantillana said:

epic, we see eye to eye on Clive Owen. CFKane, thank you for the explanation. Also thank you for the image, in another thread, of HRC on a raft with the corpses and the chattering monkeys. I saw that movie. Yikes.

February 11, 2008 7:05 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

Holy age-ism Batman - the guy was terrific, even after getting a call from the big guy himself - more than I can say for most people (visions of Denise Rich and her ilk come to mind).  Since when is age a sign of intelligence or good decision making?  We can send the guy off to war, he has every right to some real power.

I work with lots of people his age with better heads on their shoulders than 90% of boomers I know. Exhibit A in boomer idiocy: the wasteful, unnecessary mess the our poltical culture is in.  Jack Abrahoff? Enron? Globla warming?  Since when are WE such geniuses at decision making?

Let's not let prejudice (or ideas of what useless nitwits we were at that age, speaking of myself) limit what is possible in people.

February 11, 2008 7:09 PM

ralphnelle said:

I don't object to this kid being a super-delegate as much as I object to the basic idea of super-delegates. Why do we give them so much power?

February 11, 2008 7:24 PM

boneill said:

True, wandrey, and I have nothing against the dude per se- I just wonder what this says abut exactly how supers are chosen and what that means.  I was an idiot at 21, but still pretty heavily involved in local politics.  Who knows?  With the right greasing of various power-levers maybe I could have been a super-delegate, and lord knows what that would have meant for the Republic.

I mean, I am still a dope at 29, but worse then.  

The point is the whole thing seems terrifyingly arbitrary.  

Epic, Shining Path lip gloss is awesome.   I would make another joke here, but my knowledge of makeup is even worse than my knowledge of Peru.  

February 11, 2008 8:08 PM

kyoung said:

One of the two Democratic National Committee members from Maine, and therefore a super delegate, Sam Spencer, says in his bio that he's "one of the DNC's youngest members."  From his Myspace page (!), he's thirty-five (35), but I'm sure he'd like a call from Scarlett too.

The other Maine DNC member is a practicing pagan, which at least the Maine Christian Civic League thinks is a polite word for .  .  .  (rhymes with .  .  .)  Should pagan be capitalized?  Maybe Bill will have more luck with her.

February 11, 2008 8:22 PM

drdannyu said:

kyoung, you should hear what the Maine Christian Civic League has to say about the town where I live.  They called us the "gay mecca" of Maine.  Needless to say, we've made that into bumper stickers.  (For serious.)

And I don't object to a 21-year-old being a superdelegate.  I object to a 21-year-old being a superdelegate when I'm NOT a superdelegate.

February 11, 2008 9:22 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

Michelle (Cottle) & Peter (Beinert) were just the ridiculousness of this kid choosing the president on MSNBC. Incidentally, he was still on the air while they were doing so. He didn't look too hurt (though I'm sure he was crying on the inside).

February 11, 2008 9:40 PM

bcbaird said:

I was going to be a superdelegate, but they said the cape was unnecessary.

February 11, 2008 10:33 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

Supposed to read:

Michelle (Cottle) & Peter (Beinert) were just discussing the ridiculousness of this kid choosing the president on MSNBC. Incidentally, he was still on the air while they were doing so. He didn't look too hurt (though I'm sure he was crying on the inside).

February 11, 2008 10:50 PM

arimelmed said:

Clinton's calling to tell this kid that his wife is electable?! You know what predicts electability? Getting the most votes! The superdelegates should just follow the electorate and split accordingly.  After the fiasco of the 2000 election which gave us a president not chosen by the majority, Democrats are not in any mood for anything but transparency and straight up democracy.

February 11, 2008 11:47 PM

ChanRobt said:

Is it just me or is there something really schmucky about having a rrobot on your phone that says, ""Please hold for the former president"?

I could get one of those, too.  I don't have to say the president of what.

February 12, 2008 12:33 AM

Wandreycer1 said:

Ageism on live TV, barf.

February 12, 2008 9:17 AM

frippo said:

ChanRobt: Agreed. When a robot tells me to "hold," I never do. Matter of personal policy. In this case, I'd expect it to be some prerecorded message, even if I knew what President they were talking about. Seems an odd way to begin the phone call, really.

In a dystopian future, of course, when an armed robot might say "freeze," I'll probably have to come up with a different policy.

February 12, 2008 11:37 AM

frippo said:

fougasseu: Well, you also have to look at past experience. Alexander also commanded a successful charge against the Theban Sacred Band, one of the most effective elite fighting forces of his day, at age 16. So that's kind of like defeating the president of a firefighters' union at 17 in an election, I guess.

February 12, 2008 11:41 AM

ironyroad said:

Oh please!  Superdelegates of any age don't "decide the presidency" (CFK).  The relatively (in comparison to other industrial democracies) small percentage of American citizens who bother to vote in November do.

February 12, 2008 12:18 PM

tkozal said:

Was this an "out call" by Chelsea, as opposed to an "in call"?

February 12, 2008 12:57 PM