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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
03.02.2008
Romney and Obama Show Major California Movement

How fitting that America's greatest state may decide the most exciting election in years. There are a slew of new poll numbers out in Super Tuesday states this morning, but the California data is especially interesting. And, shockingly enough, two polls from the state have Mitt Romney now tied or leading John McCain! Here are the numbers:

McCain 32, Romney 24, Huckabee 13 (Field Poll)

Romney 37, McCain 34 (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby)

McCain 40, Romney 31, Huckabee 13 (McClatchy-MSNBC– read more)

Rasmussen: Romney 38, McCain 38

It's probably smart to take the average of these numbers and assume McCain is ahead by 3 points or so. Still, if Romney could score an upset (independents can only vote in the Democratic primary), it would completely change the storyline coming out of Tuesday.

In the Obama-Clinton contest, the numbers are also extremely tight. Obama now leads in two of the four polls (although his margins are smaller than Clintons):

Clinton 36, Obama 34 (Field Poll)

Obama 45, Clinton 41 (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby)

Clinton 45, Obama 36 (McClatchy-MSNBC– read more)

Obama 45, Clinton 44

Maybe Crowley's speculation yesterday was right... 

 --Isaac Chotiner

Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 11:21 AM with 14 comment(s)

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CharlesFosterKane said:

Hmmm, I'd like to see some analysis of why Romney has pulled into a tighter contest with McCain. Especially after the Schwarzenegger endorsement.

February 3, 2008 11:55 AM

primwallflow said:

"How fitting that America's greatest state may decide the most exciting election in years."

Yeah, show us the respect we deserve, or we'll secede and take LOST with us.

February 3, 2008 11:59 AM

ralphnelle said:

I'm not surprised by Romney's gains. McCain looked absolutely awful in that last debate.

February 3, 2008 12:16 PM

primwallflow said:

CFK: You have to put Schwarzenegger's popularity in context. The state GOP likes him because I think they know deep down that their brand of Bill Simon conservatism won't win statewide office, so better Schwarzenegger than an LA or SF liberal. But in terms of a national contest, where a deeply conservative candidate is viable, Schwarzenegger's endorsement repels rather than attracts California conservatives.

February 3, 2008 12:28 PM

virginiacentrist said:

Yeah. I didn't think Arnold would help McCain much. My understanding is that conservative activists hate him.

February 3, 2008 12:42 PM

Wandreycer1 said:

I hope Arnie wears the disdain of the crazies like a badge of honor - those nitwits have lost the Republican party in California for a couple of generations -  neat trick in the state that gave us Reagan.

People love Arnie in CA, he's done a great job with a tough hand.  Thanks Isaac for the "greatest state" compliment to my home state.

February 3, 2008 1:53 PM

primwallflow said:

Josh Marshall linked to evidence of anti-Obama push-polling in California:

latimesblogs.latimes.com/.../breaking-news-p.html

No doubt about it, this is going to be a close one. Is it still too late for a Gore endorsement? What about via a Super Bowl ad?

February 3, 2008 2:46 PM

colablease said:

The links weren't illuminating, so tell us--Was Huckabee's name missing from the two polls showing Romney in the lead?  If so, these polls tell us nothing about whether he's actually in the lead.

February 3, 2008 2:49 PM

mroman said:

How can you trust anything that can't even the greatest state in the Union right.

CONNECTICUT, dolts, CONNECTICUT!!!!!!!

February 3, 2008 4:44 PM

guyminuslife said:

"How fitting that America's greatest state may decide the most exciting election in years."

Yup. When Super Tuesday proves inconclusive, all eyes will be on Texas.

And they'll discover, eerily, that the eyes of Texas are upon YOU. ;-)

February 3, 2008 5:48 PM

epackard-02 said:

Just some housekeeping here?  Why is it "probably smart" to take the average of the numbers?  If any (or all) of the polls have some problem with methodology, averaging out the numbers isn't going to cure that defect.  

Was that bit of instruction part of the "daily dose" of expertise?

And, by the way, Texas is indeed the greatest state.

February 3, 2008 8:14 PM

Gavriel Meir-Levi said:

Re: the push-polling (latimesblogs.latimes.com/.../breaking-news-p.html - thanks primwa)

It is growing clearer and clearer by the day to me that there is a lean mean "rove-republican style" machine trying to assist Hillary get the nomination, presumably because they would rather run against her.

We've had lie-based rumor-mongering about Senator Obama being a closet Muslim directed at the Jewish Voters (he isn't, by the way, see www.newsweek.com/.../91424.  Not that I care - he could be Zoroastrian and he'd still have my vote).

We've had "Black Power" lies pushed via e-mail to specific communities, and now the "ultimate secret republican weapon" the Push-Poll.

Don't misunderstand me - I do not believe that the Clinton Campaign is behind this.  They play dirty, even sleazy, but they're a head and shoulders above Rove-style "anything goes in a knife fight" politics.  But it seems that some of the knife fighters want to stab Obama in the back to make room for the candidate they truly love... to hate.

February 4, 2008 3:40 AM

cspencef said:

Hey, enough with the California, New York, Georgia, Tennessee numbers--all irrelevant.  Wbere are the freakin' Kansas numbers???!!!???

February 4, 2008 11:27 AM

benjamin81 said:

You write, "How fitting that America's greatest state may decide the most exciting election in years." But you don't mention Illinois at all after that!

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

February 4, 2008 11:31 AM