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COLUMNISTS
TODAY'S STORIES
21.01.2008
Hard Truths and Half Truths on Health Care

Hillary Clinton and John Edwards haven't had much trouble convincing experts that their health care plans will reach more people -- and come closer to truly universal coverage -- than Barack Obama's. That's because Clinton and Edwards would require everybody to obtain health insurance and Obama wouldn't.

(If you've been sleeping under a rock and haven't heard this debate, read here and here.)

But Clinton and Edwards haven't had such an easy time convincing voters about this, because – quite frankly – it's not that easy a proposition to defend. Nobody likes being forced to do anything.

Tonight, though, I thought both Clinton and Edwards framed the argument perfectly. For Clinton, it was all about asking for “shared responsibility” and putting down a political marker for universal coverage. She started with this statement:

I am adamantly in favor of universal health care.  And that means everybody is covered.  And we will have a system to make it affordable, but it will be required, as part of shared responsibility, under a new way of making sure that we don't leave anybody out and provide quality, affordable health care for everyone. 
...if you don't start out trying to get universal health care, we know -- and our members of Congress know -- you'll never get there. If a Democrat doesn't stand for universal health care that includes every single American, you can see the consequences of what that will mean.  I think it is imperative that we have plans, as both John and I do, that from the very beginning say, "You know what? Everybody has got to be covered....

I think that the whole idea of universal health care is such a core Democratic principle that I am willing to go to the mat for it. I've been there before.  I will be there again.  I am not giving in; I am not giving up; and I'm not going to start out leaving 15 million Americans out of health care.

It was Edwards, though, who had the best argument of all. When Obama said, as he has frequently, he doesn't want to force people to buy health insurance, Edwards asked whether he would make the same sort of argument about Social Security:

The problem with this argument is you can make exactly the same argument about Social Security. ... I mean, you think about the analogy.  What George Bush says is he wants people to be able to get out of the Social Security system, choose, elect to get out of the Social Security system.  Well, that's exactly what this argument is. ... This argument is you shouldn't have to have health care.  If you choose not to have health care, you shouldn't have to have it. And that is a threshold question.  It is a judgment.  It's a fair policy debate. 
That said, I also thought at least one Clinton accusation was off-base. It was this one:
You know, if you look at the recent article about Senator Obama's work on health care reform in the Illinois legislature, it's a very interesting piece about how he basically did the bidding of the insurance companies during that effort.

During the debate, the Clinton campaign circulated this Boston Globe article as proof of the charge. The article examines something called the “Health Care Justice Act,” which Obama co-sponsored and which passed during his final year in the Illinois state Seante.  And, as that article establishes, Obama held discussions with representatives of the insurance industry and made some changes on their behalf.

But the Globe piece tells only a small portion of the story. I looked into this episode (along with some of Obama's other health care reform efforts) as part of an article that's in our current print edition. The full text is available to subscribers only, but I can give a few relevant paragraphs here:

From 1997 to 2004, as a member of the Illinois Senate, Obama advocated several proposals to make medical care more accessible--culminating, three years ago, in a bill designed to force the creation of a universal coverage system for Illinois. And, while none of these efforts come even close in scale to what he's promised to try in Washington, they do provide a window into the governing style he would pursue there.

Time after time, Obama brought adversaries into the process early, heard out their concerns, then fashioned compromises many of them ultimately supported. In other words, he used the very strategy he's been describing on the campaign trail--the one giving people like me such angst. And yet, if you talk to liberals in Springfield, the ones who've spent decades fighting for universal health care, you don't hear a lot of disappointment with him. As far as they are concerned, Obama's signature inclusiveness was always a means to an end--a way to push the limits of reform rather than accept them. And, they say, it worked.

In 2002, when Democrats won back control of the Senate, Obama became chairman of the Health and Human Services Committee. And it was from that perch that he adopted his other noteworthy health care cause, a measure called the Health Care Justice Act. The brainchild of grassroots activists tired of fighting losing battles to create a single-payer system for Illinois, the act, as originally proposed, would have created a task force, empowered it to develop a universal coverage plan, and then forced the legislature to vote on that plan. Predictably, it aroused the ire of insurers and other business interests, who, by all accounts, lobbied to derail the effort. "They--the insurers--pushed [Obama] really hard," says Jim Duffett, executive director of the Campaign for Better Health Care, the group championing the plan. "They also tried to use other people to push him really hard."

Publicly, Obama used hearings to rally voter support for universal coverage. Inside the statehouse, he pursued a two-track strategy. He made common cause with doctors and hospitals, two groups that had become more sympathetic to universal coverage because of the financial burdens charity care placed on them. This gave cover to moderates who wanted to support the bill, while increasing pressure on the insurers to fall in line. At the same time, Obama carried on discussions with the insurance and business lobbyists directly, eventually granting them two key concessions: He altered the makeup of the task force to make it more industryfriendly and dropped the provision requiring a vote from the next year's General Assembly. "We had significant concerns and looked to Senator Obama, who is an extremely bright and accessible individual," Phil Lackman, who represents the Professional Independent Insurance Agents of Illinois, told me. "My experience is that he is willing to listen to anybody willing to talk to him."

It's those kinds of statements that lead to stories, like one that The Boston Globe published in the fall, noting that "Obama's own experience in lawmaking involved dealings with the kinds of lobbyists and special interests he now demonizes on the campaign trail." But, whatever the contrast with Obama's campaign rhetoric, reformers in Springfield say the concessions worked out just fine. As it turned out, binding a future Assembly to vote on a measure was probably unconstitutional anyway. And the presence of insurance representatives on the task force may have actually bestowed it with additional legitimacy. Although those members would end up filing a dissent to the task force's final report--which was issued after Obama had moved on to the U.S. Senate--press attention focused on the majority recommendation. And that recommendation was just what many advocates hoped (and opponents feared) it would be: a comprehensive plan for universal coverage, financed and overseen by the state government. "He didn't back down," says Duffett. "There was no mandate [on the next Assembly to vote], but that was a constitutional issue. ... We got everything else we wanted."

Duffett's quote is important because he is among the state's most prominent and committed advocates on behalf of universal health care. (For the wonks out there, he's the Illinois equivalent of Ron Pollack.)  If Obama were in the pocket of health care lobbyists, he'd be the first guy to complain. But Duffett has only good things to say about Obama. Very good things, as a matter of fact. 

--Jonathan Cohn

Posted: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:32 PM with 7 comment(s)

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purcellneil said:

I think you're right about the Social Security argument that Edwards put forward tonight.  I hadn't heard anyone make that analogy before, but it is right-on.  

Neil

January 21, 2008 11:26 PM

The Stump said:

I can understand tactical-minded Clinton campaign operatives referring to Bill like that. But isn't

January 22, 2008 12:24 AM

hpicot said:

Edwards is correct but his explanation is weak.  The reason for requiring everyone to have health care is that you can not have a system that allows people to join after they find out they have cancer.  The whole idea is to cover everyone, and the best example is car insurance.  After you have a wreck, can you call up and get your car covered?  No. Universal health care is insurance.  And people who say that private insurance is better are people who have never needed it.  Insurance sales people can say, "And we cover any illness up to $1 million dollars."  Okay, a woman with just such a policy found out that her $1 million of coverage waslimited to $50,000 a year.  In her case, her daughter had cancer and her insurance would not cover about $40,000 the first year.

The point of universal health care is that the governement is going to cover you, so you have to pay when you are well, because if no one pays until they are sick, the premiums would be (say) $30,000 a month, just liike the premium on your house would be if called the insurance company after it burned down.  Everyone paying (or being covered by a private plan that at least covers all the things that the public plan covers) means the burden is shared and is reduced to a managable level.

The most important part of a public plan is that your current private health care plan is not concerned about your future health, in the fullness of time you will get get sick, lose your job, and the government will have to take care of you with medicare or medicaid.  So there is no incentive to keep you well. In England, France, Germany, etc. every doctor makes more money if his/her patients stay well.  

January 22, 2008 9:46 AM

bcbaird said:

As much as I agree that we need a single-payer system in this country, I must argue that forcing that system on the US, with it's entrenched insurance industry and maniacal conservative opposition, is a bad idea and a non-starter.

I think it's become apparent to anyone who isn't framing the issue through "magical ideological sunglasses" that the health system in the US is broken, inefficient and performs under expectations.  It needs to change.  It needs to change now, even if that change doesn't fix every problem.

A single-payer system will fail politically over and over again until things get so bad there is no opposition less.  This will take years.  People like myself and many others... we don't have years.

We must accept that incremental change is better than no change.  Obama seeks to do something realistic - expand health coverage without making it mandatory.  This can be done now.  Will it fix the health care problem?  Not entirely, but as time progresses people will realize that a single-payer system isn't so bad, and will oppose it less and less.

January 22, 2008 10:19 AM

bcbaird said:

Er, replace "single-payer" with "universal coverage" in most of the above.  I had just woken up, and in that early-morning haze forgot to establish the distinction between forcing everyone to buy insurance coverage versus paying for medical expenses from one source.  In any case, both go over like lead balloons politically.

January 22, 2008 10:51 AM

The Ignorant Populist said:

Got out "Sicko" tonight. What a f*cked up, corrupt system. When one of the "richest" hospitals in America actually puts sick people in Taxis and literally dumps them on the sidewalk, then up is down and night is day. Whatever happened to the hippocratic oath?

My sister passed through LA recently and got a bad, bad case of food poisoning. She wasn't sure what it was and went to the hospital. They wouldn't let her see anyone until they got paper clearance for her health insurance from Dublin, which she had, thank Christ.

This resulted in a long, and very painful, confusing wait (anybody who's ever got food poisoning will understand) on a plastic chair with only the robotic monotone of the duty "nurse" telling her that they were waiting for clearance first.

Completely ruined their impression of LA, which they liked. They were relived to get to NZ.

And that Nixon segment in Sicko is devastating. If Brown or Cameron was caught on tape devising a system that provided less care for more money, their political careers would be over.

How much profit have the HMO's made since the 70's? How much of those profits have been sunk into R&D? How much care has been denied during that period?

January 22, 2008 7:35 PM

haeryung said:

It was my understanding that Obama's plan only allows those who truly cannot afford coverage to "opt out."  I have also heard that in Massachusetts, which has a mandatory plan, it turns out that there is a group of people who cannot afford to pay for the plan--which means, in some cases, that the state ends up having to let them "opt out."  

So the actual difference between a mandatory program and Obama's plan isn't really that big.  

The analogy to Bush's "opt-out" social security idea seems off the mark.  The people who would opt out of social security would be wealthy people, who'd rather put their money into private investments.  And if all the wealthy people opted out, then there'd basically be no money going into social security, and it would go bankrupt -- probably very quickly.  

January 23, 2008 12:16 AM