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29.12.2007
Is Polarization Good?

In throwing more dirt on the grave of Evan Thomas's wrongheaded Newsweek piece this week, Matt Yglesias writes:

I would make the case that polarization is a good thing. Polarization means you know, as a citizen, how to translate political activity--voting, volunteering, donating--into policy results. If every Democrat is to the left of every Republican on some issue, then if you want to move the status quo to the left you support Democratic candidates but if you want to move it to the right you support Republicans.

This is a subject near and dear to my heart, since this time last year I was locked in a library struggling in vain to write a coherent senior thesis on this topic. The phenomenon Matt calls "polarization"--the sorting of left-of-center people into the Democratic Party and right-of-center people into the GOP--is referred to by political scientists, logically enough, as "sorting." For the reasons Matt cites, this is widely considered to be a good thing, as throughout the '50s and '60s political scientists were constantly urging the parties to be more ideologically cohesive. What political scientists term "polarization"--a shift in the distribution of the public's ideological views away from the center of the spectrum and toward the extremes--has not occurred, as Morris Fiorina, among others, has shown. The underlying distribution of ideological views has remained more or less constant over the past forty years.

So far, so good. The problem is that the sorting has been accompanied, particularly in the past two decades, by an increase in a third variable, which might be termed "partisanship." Partisanship primarily concerns not ideology but process and temperament: more partisan individuals are more likely to believe that the best way to implement one's policy preferences is to shun bipartisan cooperation, unify one's base, opt for confrontation at the ballot box, and try to push through an agenda with fifty-percent-plus-one support. Of course, this is simply a legislative strategy and is neither inherently "good" nor "bad." But in a system that, despite what Matt might wish, effectively contains a supermajority requirement for any major policy change (not to beat a dead horse), it's usually not going to be a very successful strategy. And because it sows distrust between the two parties, it makes it harder to get anything done even when there's the possibility for bipartisan agreement. There's a widespread belief, for instance, that the tax code is fundamentally flawed in various ways, but because of the prevailing political culture in Washington, it's hard to envision a reprise of the 1986 Tax Reform Act.

In my opinion, one of the more interesting questions in American politics is whether one can have sorting (which is good) without partisanship (which is, for the most part, not). The two are not, at least in theory, mutually inclusive: one can easily be an unabashed liberal or conservative while still recognizing the necessity of bipartisan cooperation (Ted Kennedy being a prime example). I'm cautiously optimistic on this front: we don't have much experience with a sorted system, and eventually people are bound to realize that the RoveKrugman theory of politics doesn't really get you anywhere. But only time will tell.

--Josh Patashnik

Posted: Saturday, December 29, 2007 11:02 AM with 15 comment(s)

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skipper2379 said:

But isn't partisanship a pretty natural corollary to sorting? Ted Kennedy is the exceptional example, but the thing about exceptions is that they're exceptions. This is how you describe the partisan strategy: "the best way to implement one's policy preferences is to shun bipartisan cooperation, unify one's base, opt for confrontation at the ballot box, and try to push through an agenda with fifty-percent-plus-one support." Isn't a unified base a much easier aim if that base is ideologically coherent? And a strong in-group dynamic is typically coupled with some sort of distrust for the other, particularly in a scenario so binary as American politics, with its two party system and the general sense that the "right-left" metaphor is taken literally by most people. And, of course, opportunities for bipartisanship recede as people in the other party agree with you about less, which sorting leads to.

You're quite right, though, to point out that this is not a particularly effective method of governance, which I guess is why I buy into Obama's theory of change, at least as Mark Schmitt describes it.

December 29, 2007 12:22 PM

rozenson said:

Partisanship CAN be a natural corollary to sorting, but it doesn't have to be. In my home district in Massachusetts, I am represented by Barney Frank in the House and Ted Kennedy in the Senate. Both men are staunchly liberal, but adopt practical, bipartisan approaches to policy.

As a Washington Post story reported when Trent Lott announced he was stepping down, the "club" atmosphere of the Senate has become more savage, like the House. Old dealmakers have been replaced by ideologues. The political culture among politicians -- although as John notes, not amongst the general public -- has grown more divisive.

There are many factors as to why this is, but I'll name one big one: Newt Gingrich.

December 29, 2007 2:05 PM

dbhuff said:

I think that's the point, it isn't that strongly defined positions that delineate 'sides' contribute somehow to more participation, the question is does that participation, and the vitriol that accompanies it lead to solutions?  Worse, the partisan deciders of which position is right or left leave the people who want to THINK lost between two sides in a shouting match.  And these deciders are hardly consistent, for instance why does the 'culture of life' address abortion but allow execution and torture?  In fact, if they WERE ideologically consistent, we COULD choose GOP or DEM and shift the tide coherently left or right.  

In fact, the partisanship is not about solutions, but winning elections and power.  Worse, because of the punishment of those who are not 'idealogically pure', and the need to choose sides, we end up not being able to for instance decry inaction in the UN at the same time we abhor unilateral action.  The problem is not do people participate, I think, but do they participate intelligently?  And is the country better off for it?

December 29, 2007 2:39 PM

Robert Powell said:

Yglesias  is a moron, and this post proves it. There is no, zero, evidence that polarization even exists in practice, much less works. Most voters don't identify as either Republican or Democrat, and even among those who do, the most important issues are often split. I'm for stem cell research AND school vouchers, for example. There is not one major policy, foreign or domestic, since at least the New Deal and probably since the Civil War that hasn't required significant bi-partisan support to be enacted.  The current "polarizaton" is entirely a construct of the media, and the political hacks in both parties that are indistinguishable from it.

December 29, 2007 2:39 PM

The Ignorant Populist said:

Categories, sub-categories and variables - political science really needs to suck on the tit of "social facts" to justify itself. I'm not sure what the value is of "polarization". I mean, how do you define Center, Left, Right when, as Robert has pointed out, you are dealing with a mass of rational human beings who don't easily squeeze into nice little correlations?

In saying that, it's a seductively neat theory.  Josh, can you point to one mature Westren democracy that does suffer from "polarization"? I'd be interested to see if I agree that it is polarized.

December 29, 2007 3:03 PM

rozenson said:

Er, when I wrote "John" earlier, I meant "Josh."

December 29, 2007 4:17 PM

Josh Patashnik said:

Ignorant Populist: You're certainly right that the "science" in political science ought not be taken too literally, and that the simplistic one-dimensional left-right ideological scale, while still valuable as a model or approximation of public opinion, is only that.

To answer your question, polarization--defined as a bimodal distribution of opinion with most individuals clustered on one end of the spectrum or the other, with no real middle ground--is relatively rare in a homogenous society.  You're more likely to find it in places where the most salient political questions fall along some major social cleavage--like Belgium, for example, which is polarized between French and Flemish speakers and whose politics are basically at a standstill as a result.

December 29, 2007 7:48 PM

The Ignorant Populist said:

Addendum:

My gripe with such concepts as "polarization" has to do with it's insignificance when compared and contrasted to much more relevant American political phenomenon.

Such as the complete disconnect between what the public are voting for and what they are electing.

For example: most Bush voters in 2004 thought he supported the Kyoto protocols, and aprox 10% of voters choose their candidate based on his agenda/postions/platforms or goals. Most based thier choice on the candidates "values", "qualities" etc. Not surprising as the vast majority of media coverage seems to focus on crosses, phoniness, etc.

I actually felt sorry for John McCain on Hardball - at one point the odious Matthews said something to the effect that he doesn't do policy but he does politics, and then went onto rant about yet another poll.

I mean, if you want to watch sport, watch sport. If you want to get informed about your democratic choice, then...eh...stick on ESPN!

December 29, 2007 7:52 PM

The Ignorant Populist said:

It was a bit of a cheap shot Josh, I'll hold my hands up, it can never by physics. I hated maths in school anyway. Political science (and I never studied it) strikes me as economics without the numbers.

Polarization - so we are talking about clear ethnic, cultural or religious lines or very narrow single issue delinations. Fine. I just don't see the value in it. That's not to say such impenetrable categories or concepts don't have some utility. I thank TNR for introducing me to "amplification", which helped classify what I felt instinctively.

I look at it this way. I read TNR (probably too much, if the truth be known as I'm not even American) and other sites. I consider myself better informed than most on US policy and politics (as demonstrated by my ability to clear the bar when in full rant mode), but I'm not really sure where Huckabee stands on say Kyoto for example and what is Edwards postion on immigration, apart from calling the border a mess?

Now, I'm sure someone will pop up with a handy link or two and chastise me for being an Ignorant Populist but if I'm not clear about these candidates postions what chance does your normal, healthy American have, who has a life and doesn't seem obsessed with this race?

Slim to none I'm sure.

Why not use the Stump to get into the nitty gritty of each candidates postions, or lack thereof, on the major issues?

December 29, 2007 8:17 PM

Robert Powell said:

Because, Iggy, "candidates positions" have almost nothing to do with what is likely to happen if they get elected. Bush was for compassionate conservatism, a humble foreign policy, and being a uniter not a divider.  Whatever Gore said about "fighting for people against the powerful", nothing of the sort was going to happen if he had gotten elected.  You may be sure that Huckabee's position on Kyoto, if any, and Edwards' position on immigration, will be similarly irrelevant.

That's why voters concentrate on "values" and "qualities". It's about all we've got to go on.

December 30, 2007 5:27 AM

AlanK said:

Despite Mr Powell's unacceptable rudeness, he has a point. There are very few people who fall fully into one camp or the other, and even when you correctly try to map positions in two dimensions (conservative/liberal economics, conservative/liberal social values) you  still oversimplify enormously. I'm a pretty liberal guy but I strongly oppose stem cell research [until you know how the damn things work with animals it's dangerous and morally suspect to do it with people, and if you know how to do it with animals you will by that time know how to do it without harvesting human stem cells from embryos]. We are vast; we contain multitudes. Partisanship may be destructive, but "sorting" is just sorta silly.

December 30, 2007 2:25 PM

David52194 said:

Disagreeing strongly and intensely with unwarranted ideas often is good.  For example, it is good that people strongly opposed and criticized segregation.  And I strongly argue against creationism.  Doing so tends to help people realize that those ideas are unwarranted.  

It is good that people strongly disagree with policies such as the invasion of Iraq and Bush's tax cuts for those who earn over $ 200,000 per year.  And it is very important that people are passionately making the case for single-payer health care.  Doing so is likely to help bring about better decisions in the future.  For example, perhaps we can finally  get single-payer health care in the future.  

December 30, 2007 3:28 PM

blackton said:

I am with Powell as well, Bill Clinton was a polarizing figure but not partisan, hence he passed NAFTA, ushered China into the WTO, passed welfare reform, etc. I often think if Bush had been stuck with a solidly Democratic House and Senate his Presidency would have been far more successful. While Iraq still might have happened Rummy would have been given the boot much earlier and Iraq might have been far more successful as well.

I also am sure that the only way I will find a candidate with whom I am in full agreement in is if I ran myself, and even then the agreement would only be temporary so like Bob said, I go a lot on values and qualities as well. I agree with Hillary more than Obama but believe Obama will be a better leader, hence I go with Obama.

December 30, 2007 4:48 PM

mmathog said:

One issue cleaves the parties; taxes.

The reason we've seen more idealogical cohesion among the parties is because the 3rd prong of the Democrats, namely conservative Southern populists, shifted to the GOP in the last few decades.

As for morons, the only moron I see here, as usual, is Powell. Pretty much every word he types here is wrong. For example, Bush was never for 'compassionate conservatism' nor for 'uniting,' that was just salesmanship. Bush was for big business, the Iraq War, tax cuts for the rich, a liberal immigration policy, ignoring the environment and privatizing social security.

Some people, like Powell, are big enough suckers to believe every last word their politicians tell them.

1994 was the big moment of change, represented by Gingrich and a bit later, DeLay. They rose to power for a reason though, namely, the relative (and astonishingly large) rise in wealth in the south and west, replacing the industrial northeast as the center of american politics. The values those regions represented were quite different than the values of the industrial northeast.

December 31, 2007 2:24 AM

Robert Powell said:

AlanK--sorry about the rudeness. Not my preferred style. By way of explanation I'd been in the middle of some pretty heated debate on Matt's blog with people who cast such distinctions to the winds. No excuse, though, My bad.

I agree with 'hog's last paragraph, which may or may not make me a moron too.  What to do about it seems to me obvious--avoid nominating Northerners from the left wing of the party.

As for the salesmanship angle, that's exactly my point. I'm prepared to believe that Bush actually meant those things just as much as Gore meant "fighting against the powerful", etc. But every administration seems to loose the campaign promises in response to events, leaving serious-minded voters with nothing much to go on besides veiled glimpses of what might pass for, or eventually turn out to be, character.

December 31, 2007 4:22 AM