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13.12.2007
Huckabee on "Gay Sex"

The most amusing part of Zev Chafets' big Huckabee profile has for some reason been getting scant attention. Here's Chafets:

The governor regards 1968 as the dawning of ‘‘the age of the birth-control pill, free love, gay sex, the drug culture and reckless disregard for standards.’’

Gay sex, huh? That wasn't around before 1968? Perhaps scientists invented it along with the pill...

--Isaac Chotiner 

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:59 AM with 8 comment(s)

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jm_rice said:

Very funny, Smartass.  Huckabee means that '68 saw a sharp acceleration in the curve of permissiveness.  Not that things like gay sex hadn't existed before but that things which rightly or wrongly were considered vices were now celebrated.  "Let it all hang out," and "Do your thing," were the watchwords.  Encouraged by academic hucksters, swinish adolescent behavior -- sit-ins, vandalizing campuses. student riots, unchecked by craven or collaborationist college administrations -- became social norms -- plus the demoralization of the Vietnam war and break-down in civility, encouraged by media bastards bent on revenge for Nixon's election, turning slimeballs like Eldridge Cleaver, Angela Davis, Daniel Ellsberg, Huey Newton, The Weathermen, and most of all themselves, into folk heroes, where previous generations had offered up adults.

Whether such an age is still upon us, and whether it has worked for good or ill, is debatable.   And to kick off the debate, Bandar-log Chotiner, hanging from his branch, hurls an infantile verbal turd at a perfectly respectable proposition.

December 13, 2007 2:26 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Maybe he meant 1968 BC? Sometime between Homer and Socrates

December 13, 2007 2:29 PM

blackton said:

"reckless disregard for standards" also not aware that the Nazis had the highest standards either. From the ways Republicans hyperventilate about how it all went downhill after 1968, this 39 year downhill ride has got to be the slightest grade imaginable.

December 13, 2007 2:52 PM

stgla said:

Dan Savage (of Savage Love, a conservative, by the way) makes a great point that there is no such thing as "gay sex."  Everything we (heteros) do, they can do too, and vice versa.  It's counter-intuitive, but if you really think about it...

Ok, in lay usage (no pun intended), the term "gay sex" really probably refers to any sex between people of the same gender, but jm_rice's explanation notwithstanding, I can't see how the sixties changed anything there.  Maybe it brought some "gay sex" out of the public bathrooms and into more respectable venues -- except for a certain repressed Republican Senator -- but what's so bad about that?

December 13, 2007 4:16 PM

luispc said:

And during those 39 years weren't they in power for 26 (in my counting)... so they must be somewhat responsible for that "sodoma and gomorra" mood that they take up every election... I even suspect that they are secretly sponsoring the gay and lesbian "rights" movement... something that keeps them alive when everything else is dead...

And it can't be 1968 BC Tep. You're forgetting about Patroclus, Achilles' lover. The homeric heroes were ... what do you call them?... ah, yes, sissis.

December 13, 2007 4:22 PM

luispc said:

But one should say that there was no talk about "rights" and they would never imagine marrying each other. It was plain "gay sex"

December 13, 2007 4:28 PM

psantillana said:

Even if, by "gay sex",  he meant "gays getting all uppity about their so-called rights", I think that started - really sharply started - in 1969 with the Stonewall riots. But I wasn't there, and maybe Huckabee was.  I'm just saying.

December 13, 2007 4:56 PM

discarded lies - hyperlinkopotamus said:

According To Mike Huckabee, Andrew Sullivan Was Heterosexual The First Five Years Of His Life

December 14, 2007 9:27 AM