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30.10.2007
If You Read One Post About Waterboarding

...make it this one, by Malcolm Nance, a longtime counter-terrorism agent:

The carnival-like he-said, she-said of the legality of Enhanced Interrogation Techniques has become a form of doublespeak worthy of Catch-22. Having been subjected to them all, I know these techniques, if in fact they are actually being used, are not dangerous when applied in training for short periods. However, when performed with even moderate intensity over an extended time on an unsuspecting prisoner – it is torture, without doubt. Couple that with waterboarding and the entire medley not only “shock the conscience” as the statute forbids -it would terrify you. Most people can not stand to watch a high intensity kinetic interrogation. One has to overcome basic human decency to endure watching or causing the effects. The brutality would force you into a personal moral dilemma between humanity and hatred. It would leave you to question the meaning of what it is to be an American....

[Waterboarding] does not simulate drowning, as the lungs are actually filling with water. There is no way to simulate that. The victim is drowning. How much the victim is to drown depends on the desired result (in the form of answers to questions shouted into the victim’s face) and the obstinacy of the subject. A team doctor watches the quantity of water that is ingested and for the physiological signs which show when the drowning effect goes from painful psychological experience, to horrific suffocating punishment to the final death spiral.

Waterboarding is slow motion suffocation with enough time to contemplate the inevitability of black out and expiration –usually the person goes into hysterics on the board. For the uninitiated, it is horrifying to watch and if it goes wrong, it can lead straight to terminal hypoxia. When done right it is controlled death. Its lack of physical scarring allows the victim to recover and be threaten with its use again and again....

According to the President, this is not a torture, so future torturers in other countries now have an American legal basis to perform the acts. Every hostile intelligence agency and terrorist in the world will consider it a viable tool, which can be used with impunity. It has been turned into perfectly acceptable behavior for information finding.

Read the whole thing.  (Via James Joyner, via Alex Massie)

--Christopher Orr

Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:48 PM with 5 comment(s)

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SWJ Blog said:

I’d like to digress from my usual analysis of insurgent strategy and tactics to speak out on an issue of grave importance to Small Wars Journal readers. We, as a nation, are having a crisis of honor. Last week the Attorney General nominee Judge Michael

October 30, 2007 2:35 PM

stgla said:

Wow.  Reading that is like getting punched in the gut.  The term "waterboarding" is itself a problem because it sounds almost fun. Makes you think about snowboarding, boogeyboarding, and water-skiing.  Maybe we should call it something more evocative and accurate, like "drowning torture."  Makes me sick to think of Americans defending this practice.

October 30, 2007 4:19 PM

teplukhin2you said:

what stgla said. leaves one speechless, except for one word that keeps ringing in my ears as i read this:

SHAME

October 30, 2007 8:19 PM

purcellneil said:

All those "moral values" voters should be proud of their boy, the War President. He has indeed restored honor to the White House.

Whenever the term waterboarding has been explained in the media, the expression "simulated drowning" has been used -- there is nothing simulated about this practice, and it can hardly be considered less than torture.  

Do we really have to wait for January 2009 to fix this?

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October 30, 2007 9:06 PM

blackton said:

while I agree with everyone's sentiments above I think we also have to remember the people on the receiving end of this torture are some pretty rotten sobs. Personally, there are times I think that there is no torture too low for the likes of people like Zarqawi (if we had captured him alive) nor do I think most Americans will disagree.

Given the chance I think most Americans would waterboard the hell out of Osama, even long after all useful information came out of him, I would do it until he started insulting Mohammed and I would film him doing it, and then release it on the internet. And if I accidentally drowned him, then so damn what.

October 31, 2007 3:10 PM