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05.03.2008
Why Hillary Drops Her Final "G"s

Why isn’t it noticed, or, if noticed, not commented upon? At least in her Ohio and Texas talks, Hillary Clinton drops the final "G" from the "ing" words (participles, gerunds)--an annoyance, especially to those who’ve heard her talking to other people and groups where not one "G" is dropped and she sounds like the young woman who gave a famous Wellesley College commencement address, was one of America’s 100 most successful lawyers, was first lady of Arkansas and the United States, and has been a successful U.S. senator from New York State for eight years.

Of course, it’s clear that Hillary wants to sound more like the audience of "ordinary" people she’s pumpin’ for votes. Most of us act and talk somewhat differently with the grocer than our colleagues, but it’s unusual for politicians to be so conspicuously different as Hillary is before audiences.

Changing your political position is considered a no-no for politicians; Hilary has been fairly successful explaining such changes. The "G"-dropping, though, points to something else in this amazingly successful woman’s life: It recalls the fuss made out of her changes of hairdo in her First Lady years and her marital juggling in the Hillary-humiliation time of Monica Lewinsky. (By the way, how is it that no comedian has suggested that the now famous 3:00 a.m. phone call to the White House came from Monica?) Many women who know that they don other selves in front of their husband’s colleagues, hunting, and poker buddies understand and sympathize with Hillary’s adaptations and alterations.

Those who have seen Hillary on Saturday Night Live or heard her mocking version of Obama’s speeches see that she has histrionic gifts. ( "Give her an "A’ for presentation," was Obama’s response to the mockery.) More women than men will understand and sympathize with what lies behind Hillary’s accommodations and acting, behind the dropped "G"s and the changed hair dos. Many--
most?--men will be annoyed by them, and by the shift from straight talk to strident proclamation. ("I’m a fighter;" "I’ve been tested;" I know, I’ve seen, I’ve been, I’ve done, I-I-I-I-I-I-I.) La donna e mobile was the seducer duke’s lyric justification for his erotic mobility; cosi fan tutte is the not-so-long outmoded Mozart-Da Ponte view of women that many--most?--women, with and without university degrees, have personally confronted.

When did it start for Hillary Diana Rodham? Was it when she began undercutting her father’s Republican shibboleths? Did her 92-page BA thesis on Saul Alinsky embody the early changes, masked there by a "nuanced" academic style?

Five years she kept the courting Bill Clinton on her string, deciding to marry him (after, not necessarily because) she’d failed the Washington, D.C. bar exam and passed the Arkansas one.

That this woman, distinguished as remarkably able since her 20th year--and by no one more than the husband who in Little Rock and Washington appointed her to important roles and who now campaigns for her with heart-rocking energy--feels that she has to jump through the hoops of dropping "G"s arouses as much pity as disgust.

--Richard Stern 

Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:53 PM with 31 comment(s)

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darieff said:

While watching coverage of Hillary campaigning in Ohio, I too noticed the conspicuous dropping of her G's. I found it phony, transparent and patronizing. Apparently not enough of the voters in Ohio felt that way.

So it was with great interest that I read this RIchard Stern piece. But by the end of the piece, I found Stern, ironically, to be as patronizing as Clinton herself. Is it the writer's thesis that women need to adapt to different people in their lives, and therefore are adept at taking on different personas and different roles? If so , well, sorry... but.. who hasn't had to do that? It's not a gender-specific phenomenon. Two comments really jump out at me:

"Many women who know that they don other selves in front of their husband’s colleagues, hunting, and poker buddies understand and sympathize with Hillary’s adaptations and alterations."

and this ....

"More women than men will understand and sympathize with what lies behind Hillary’s accommodations and acting, behind the dropped "G"s and the changed hair dos. Many--most?--men will be annoyed by them, and by the shift from straight talk to strident proclamation."

Richard Stern takes a manipulative, shrill, annoying trait of Hillary Clinton's and convertsit into a goofy, specious and gaseous gender argument.

I'm tellin' you, Richard, I am findin' that logic to be maddenin,' annoyin' and mighty patronizin.'

I'm just sayin'

March 5, 2008 7:54 PM

bhannan0 said:

Come on politicians of all types subtly (or not so subtly in GWB's case) change their accent depending on whom they are talking to.  I believe I detected a slight change in Senator Obama's pronounciation during the South Carolina primary - Mont-gum-rih for Montgomery for example.  Annoying perhaps but I wouldn't get all Freudian about it.

March 5, 2008 8:11 PM

newdex said:

"Why isn’t it noticed, or, if noticed, not commented upon?"

Maybe other pundits have decided to try to hang on to a one tiny shred of dignity.  Not you, apparently.  

"Most of us act and talk somewhat differently with the grocer than our colleagues, but it’s unusual for politicians to be so conspicuously different as Hillary is before audiences."

Bullshit.  

"The "G"-dropping, though, points to something else in this amazingly successful woman’s life: It recalls the fuss made out of her changes of hairdo in her First Lady years and her marital juggling in the Hillary-humiliation time of Monica Lewinsky."

On this I agree, if by "recalling" you mean recalling the tendency of the press to focus on trivial things like haircuts and pretend that they provide some kind of deep insight.

"More women than men will understand and sympathize with what lies behind Hillary’s accommodations and acting, behind the dropped "G"s and the changed hair dos . . ."

That's just yucky on several levels, along with the hystrionics bit.  

"That this woman . . . feels that she has to jump through the hoops of dropping "G"s arouses as much pity as disgust."

This post, on the other hand, arouses far more disgust than pity.  

March 5, 2008 8:53 PM

roidubouloi said:

She flunked the DC bar exam?  Sheesh.

March 5, 2008 9:37 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Mr Stern, do you ever tell your Chicago neighbors about your late _ahnt_, the wife of your uncle? Or do you, in the interest of not sounding ridiculously affected to local ears, pronounce it like _ant_?

March 6, 2008 12:27 AM

buffaloboy said:

Somebody with tenure at a University wrote this article?

And people wonder why it' so easy to make fun of pointy-head academics livin' in an Ivory Tower?

March 6, 2008 11:48 AM

jm_rice said:

She doesn't have Obama's charm, so she must campaign on the issues. (On the other hand, Obama has no issues, so he campaigns on charm.)  So, now and then she tweeks her delivery or her harido or her outfit.  Candidates do that. (Of course, Reagan didn't -- he always used the same hair dye.)  Nevertheless, to Stern and his fellow Obamaphiles it's disgusting and pitiful.  No mention of how their boy shifts in and out of his soul-brother persona depending on the audience.  Oh, no.

I'm with newdex's last line.

March 6, 2008 12:00 PM

boneill said:

Yeah, even though I am an "Obamaphile" (come on, jm_rice, no issues? You can't actually believe that anymore), this post was ridiculous.  All politicians do this, and jm is right- Obama uses more of a preacher cadence, call-and-response thing with AA audiences, less of one with different audiences.  It is called playing to the crowd.  Or: politics.  Which is what this is.

March 6, 2008 12:17 PM

jkolic said:

What a terrible piece of pontification regarding women woes this is. Apparently the confines of the Ivory Tower did not afford enough inspiration for Stern to educate himself on the issues of male/female communication and come to a startling - gasp - conclusion than no significant differences exist. Gender distinctions are largely a myth, men and women are essentially very much alike and the tendency to present oneself in a manner to which the audience can relate is common to all presenters, particularly if they happen to be politicians.

Stern is about as condescending as he portrays Hillary to be, and his references to cultural paraphernalia such as Mozart-DuPonte perspective on women come off as churlish and pretentious.

As far as her need to jump through hoops goes, I have never known a politician, regardless of how smart and educated he or she happened to be, that was not reduced to doing just that. Enough already with the patronizing that seems to stem from the mere fact that she is a woman. The thinly veiled misogyny of this article arouses far more pity and disgust than her dropping of the g ever could.

March 6, 2008 12:40 PM

basman said:

As with his last one on Buckley, this post by Stern bemuses me. There is no overarching thesis that is either plausible or interesting. And the marshalled details in support of such *argument* as is being made collapse and scatter into triviality and pointless digression.

There is an art to making incidentals interesting that requires a light touch and light and comfortably beckoning prose. The main post displays not much of any of that, if any at all.

Mr. Stern, you need to regain your blogging mojo.

March 6, 2008 1:23 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Lee Siegel, go back to your imaginary cat and give Mr Stern back his laptop. Not funny anymore.

Surrender Dorothy!

March 6, 2008 2:34 PM

esmense said:

When talking to black audiences Obama adopts a somewhat Southern, black preacher talking style that is totally foreign to his family or Hawaii prep school background.  And he uses the always patronizing and irritating "folks" even more than McCain uses "my friends."

March 6, 2008 4:22 PM

purcellneil said:

Mr Stern is right.  It is annoying to hear an intelligent woman dumbing-down her language.  That anyone would defend it only attests to how complacent we are with the mediocrity of our citizenry.  Does anyone really believe George W Bush is so stupid that he does not know his "nukular" should be "nuclear"? When politicians willfully engage in sub-standard speech, maybe we should see this as a measure of the audience. Rather than criticize Stern, why not let Hillary know she can knock it off?

Neil

March 6, 2008 5:19 PM

thurzo said:

Bit patronising, as others have said. Tony Blair used to do the same thing - he was a Scot educated at one of the best private schools in Scotland and then Oxford University, but on occasion sounded like Frank from down the Dog and Duck, knowwhaddamean, OK?

March 6, 2008 6:44 PM

basman said:

Neil, I disagree with you. As others have noted, Obama no less, or perhaps more, than Hillary bends his inflections, his volcabulary and speech ryhthms to cater to his audience. As well,  I could care less if she drops her "Gs" or if he bends his speech.  I also don't think, as I noted, Stern, whose posts I often very much like,  was very felicitous in making whatever he thought his central point was.

March 6, 2008 9:17 PM

ChanRobt said:

Richard, I am so grateful to you for brining this up.  

It is with this habit that Hillary exposes herself for the abject phony that she is.  The fake "country" accent achieved with the dropped g's.

I would think that the actual yokels would pick up on this right away.  And be righteously pissed at being so inexpertly condescended to.

But, apparently, it didn't cost her any critical votes.

March 7, 2008 2:21 AM

Sirhc said:

I am an Obama supporter.  I believe HRC should drop out of the race now.   She can't win. Her complaints about media bias are ridiculous.  Despite all of that, I must say that this post is absurd.  

Every human being changes the way he or she talks depending on the audience.  All politicians do it.  Granted, it is sort of annoying, but understandable and certainly not worth singling out one politician over another.  

All media and pundist should stick with all that is wrong with HRC's arguments.  There is a lot there.  Focusing on silly stuff lends her too much credence.

March 7, 2008 9:54 AM

purcellneil said:

basman

I note your point that Obama is guilty of similar antics, though I would suggest his alternative speech style (at least when i have observed it) always seems a bit hip and clever, rather than sub-standard or dumbed-down.  Perhaps I am mistaken, but I think there is a difference.  It may have more to do with Obama's gifts as a public speaker than with his vocabulary and rhythm - maybe he just pulls it off better than she does?  

Bottom line - nobody who mispronounces "nuclear" will ever get my vote.  

Neil

March 7, 2008 12:16 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Neil, did you vote for that former nuclear engineer who used to pronounce it, in best southern fashion, "nukey-uh"?

March 7, 2008 1:46 PM

basman said:

...maybe he just pulls it off better than she does?

Maybe, but then, I think,  you make my point. It's a small beer universal inclination by politicians trying to connect with their audience, for which they are not to be faulted, especially with so many bigger fish to fry.

March 7, 2008 4:29 PM

jm_rice said:

Chan, whadya mean "fake country accent?"  Don't be obtuse.  She lived in Arkansas for 18 years and lived with a G-dropper for over 30 years -- of course she has the right to drop her Gs!

Stern's post is wrongheaded and inane.  And the fact that it's mean-spirited and gratuitous -- no more than a feel-good exercise for an Obamaphile -- makes it despicable.

March 8, 2008 12:02 PM

basman said:

Good points Jack.

March 8, 2008 1:33 PM

ChanRobt said:

Jim, yer right, any woman who slept with the Man from Hope for a generation and a half has a license to drop any consonant she damn well pleases.  

I wish Li'l Abner were still a happening cartoon.  Whenver I look at the Clintons, Dogpatch is what comes to mind.

March 9, 2008 3:24 AM

ChanRobt said:

Actually, Jim, much worse than Hillary talking "country" is when she tries to talk "black".  That's really cringe-inducing.

March 9, 2008 3:25 AM

gordysteil said:

I think that what we should be talking about is Hillary's wacky subject-verb agreement.  Now that's fascinating.

March 9, 2008 3:45 AM

basman said:

...Actually, Jim, much worse than Hillary talking "country" is when she tries to talk "black".  That's really cringe-inducing...

Why: she was the wife of your first black president. If anything is cringe-inducing it is singling her out for the trivial tics tof nearly all politicians in your country.  Even Lester B. Pearson, when he visited Hollywood, wore, quite unlike him, an ascot, sunglasses, chomped on a cigar, and asked everyone he met what their deal points were.

March 9, 2008 10:12 AM

fougasseu said:

Droppin' those Gs like John Goodman doing one of his hick turns is cringe-inducing, scary, and, well,  unimpressive. Couldn't she fake it via wardrobe and other cues without the vanity of acting the part?

The director's comments on "Michael Clayton" are great, and at one point Tony Gilroy talks about how Tillda Swinton saw her role - playing Karen Crowder (great name!)  the high-powered and highly terrified corporate harridan, a reptilian attorney not unlike....

Tilda says she played her "like a bad actor trapped in bad clothes". Trapped in a bad play. Brilliant. Tilda though avoided the funny accent.

March 11, 2008 8:45 AM

jm_rice said:

"Even Lester B. Pearson, when he visited Hollywood, wore, quite unlike him, an ascot, sunglasses, chomped on a cigar, and asked everyone he met what their deal points were."

...and called everybody, "Baby."  That is sooooo funny!

March 13, 2008 1:08 AM

Annabella2 said:

I don't mind her dropping her g's. I do mind her talking to audiences in North Carolina (of all women) as if they are freaking morons and she is a 4th grade teacher explaining what a vote is to retards... Hey maybe she really understands those polls about her core constituency being the uneducated  who believe there is too much interracial dating going on (Today's Pew Poll).

But Mr. Stern... do you think you could just lay on the gender condescension a bit more thickly there?  She's bad enough without having all of us Obamamaniacs going TUT TUT on you.

March 28, 2008 2:50 AM

Annabella2 said:

ChanRobert... how do you know she did.  I mean slept with him for a generation and a half... all we really know is once, right, unless you believe McCain on that one.

March 28, 2008 2:52 AM

floydshark said:

Yeah, all national pols do this...  Hillary is just really bad at it.  She comes off as completely lacking authenticity because she is smart enough to realize a domineering Mid-Western goodie-two-shoes who delights at the opportunity to "shove in nthe knife" in political back-alleys is not exactly an appealing persona for most folks "out in the provinces."  The G-dropping is not her most anniying trait, though.  Annabella2 is right - it's her condescension.  The eye-rolling head-nods in response to her own flat emphasis point are incredibly painful to watch.  It's like "Just listen up and don't ask any question, you bunch of fat, aging losers.  Sister Hillary knows what's best for you and she's gonna spoon feed it to you.  This is what you want to hear...  RIGHT?"

March 30, 2008 4:04 PM

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