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18.02.2008
Comments on the Meaning of "Unity"

 

1. In his posting of January 27th, Cass Sunstein, with the success of “McCain, Obama and to some extent Huckabee” in mind, wrote that “unifying candidates are now being taken as a most refreshing change from the last years.” I beg to differ.

 

In my view, the most remarkable aspect of the Obama’s campaign has been his ability to make the tone of his politics mask their substance as well as the willingness of highly educated voters to go along with this illusion. His voting record and his views on foreign policy place him firmly on the left-wing of the Democratic Party. His are the views of the left-liberal political and intellectual establishment echoed in print in The New York Review of Books and The Nation, and online via Moveon.org. His most frequent remark about foreign policy during the campaign is that he will withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible. Despite the fact that the surge has achieved many of its goals, the press has not challenged Obama–or Hillary Clinton for that matter–about the consequences of an American withdrawal in the face of apparent success. While the call to get out of Iraq as soon as possible is unifying for the activist young and liberal and left-liberal intellectuals, it is profoundly divisive in American society as a whole. Indeed, were either Obama or Clinton to withdraw troops from Iraq before the United States had achieved a tolerable end result, the bitterness and turmoil in our country could match that of the divisions over the war in Vietnam. “Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory” would not be just a clever slogan. Millions of people, with good reason, would believe it to be true. Were that to happen, partisan division could become so intense that the Democrats’ domestic agenda would be unlikely to survive the tumult. You could kiss goodbye to universal health care.

 

2. A second, bizarre aspect of the primaries is that for reasons of their own, neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama have stated the most obvious difference between them. It is, especially in foreign policy, that she is a centrist Democrat whose ideas are far “newer” than his while he is a left-liberal Democrat whose ideas are largely those of the Democratic orthodoxy of the pre-Bill Clinton Democratic Party. These are the same ideas that, except for the Carter interlude, kept the Democratic Party out of the White House in the three decades before Clinton’ election in 1992. If Hillary Clinton had stated this simple truth, she could forget about getting the support of the Democratic Party’s left-wing and thus would have little chance of getting the Party’s nomination. If Obama had stated this truth, then the post-partisan, unifying aura of his candidacy would evaporate. However fine a politician he may be, his political views are not those of the political center. The Republican Party will not be reluctant to bring this inconvenient fact to the voter’s attention.

 

3. The Obama candidacy is said to express a new idealism. To be sure, in the sociologist Max Weber’s terms, it does rest on an ethics of conviction that focuses on intentions rather than consequences. The refusal to publicly face the probable catastrophic consequences of rapid withdrawal from Iraq is typical of this kind of idealism. It contrasts with what Weber called the ethics of responsibility which focus as much or more on the consequences of actions than on the intentions of actors. Yet there is another sense in which the mood that has brought Obama to his recent successes is not idealistic at all. Aside from a lunatic fringe, no one claims that the enemy in Iraq is anything but utterly barbaric, inhumane and guilty of hundreds of repeated war crimes in the form of the intentional murder of innocents. A suicide bombing is a war crime. Yet in the face of this inhumanity, one looks in vain for passion and/or insight among the Democratic candidates about the nature of this enemy. To my knowledge, neither Clinton nor even more so Obama have even mentioned the phrase “radical Islamic terrorism” in their campaign. The Party left-wing places Clinton  on the defensive for her Iraq vote in 2003 but no one puts either her or Obama on t he spot for failing to speak clearly about Islamic extremism. Why is indifference to the actions of an evil enemy a form of moral idealism? The Republicans will not be shy about asking that question.

 

 4. This year’s Democratic primaries raise the following question: Is the Democratic Party any longer the party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, that is, the Roosevelt of the New Deal as well as the Roosevelt whose leadership and decisions were absolutely indispensable to defeating Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan in World War II? Cass Sunstein, among others, rightly evokes Roosevelt’s legacy of domestic social and economic reform. Today, in the form of the now familiar varieties of radical Islamism, we face an enemy that bears more similarities to fascism and Nazism than any other ideological movement of similar dimensions since World War II. The radical Islamists celebrate the murder of innocent civilians, proudly declare their hatred for the Enlightenment, liberal democracy, capitalism, communism and socialism, feminism, wage war on black Africans in Darfur, despise the United States and yes, also revive radical anti-Semitism in ideology and practice. To point this out is not “neoconservative ideology.” It is the unpleasant truth. These ideas and actions call for an American counter-offensive, one animated by a liberalism with deep and abiding memories of Roosevelt.

 

The political habits and short historical memories of the past thirty years have brought us to a Democratic Party that does not want to speak too loudly about the fact that its greatest President was a great wartime leader in a war against fascism and Nazism. Vietnam became the formative experience of the Party’s leaders and a loss of enthusiasm for the hard-line during the Cold War became Democratic orthodoxy. It was not surprising that the Republicans would have more enthusiasm for the Cold War against the Communist. In the 1970s, Democrats who dissented from their Party’s course turned to the legacy of Harry Truman. Yet Truman’s legacy was formed in the early Cold War with the Communists. Today, although radical Islam has impeccably reactionary credentials, the Democratic Party candidates do not present the fight against it as a distinctly liberal endeavor. So it is no wonder that they don’t evoke the memory of FDR’s wartime leadership.

 

Yes, there are vast differences in power, ideology, geography and culture between the issues of the 1940s and those of our time. I am, after all, a historian with all of the attention to awareness of difference and specificity of time and place that our discipline fosters. Yes, much went very wrong in Iraq and much should have been done differently in the way the United States has fought the war on the terror inspired by radical Islam. Yes, a President in 2009 cannot slavishly copy the policies from the middle of the past century. Yet traditions and memories offer us a sense of how a President might face friends and enemies today. The unfortunate silence about Roosevelt, in this time of war, stems from a political party that has forgotten or even become uncomfortable with the ideas and policies of its most important political figure. A considerable component of the activist and passionate wing of today’s Democratic Party has distanced itself from the meaning of foreign policy liberalism in the Roosevelt tradition.

 

This is a recipe for electoral defeat in fall 2008 and, again, opens the door to the White House to a Republican willing and able to appeal to voters in the political center many of whom still look back with admiration to a liberal President whose revolution in American foreign relations launched the United States to its subsequent path to world power.

 

 --Jeffrey Herf

Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:42 AM with 16 comment(s)

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s4200 said:

Re: MOBOTORS and OBOTORS

Thank you Jeffrey Herf.

We have to raise our voice, and actions are needed, to save ourselves and all others from the tyrants who hire and incite the poor idiots to kill and be killed as an OBOTOR, a walking bomb..

The Obotor gets an explosive vest and goes to a crowd, to be blown up by remote controller Mobotors. Self-ignition is getting rare.

The Obotor is an innocent idiot, but the Mobotor is a callous barbarian. And the mission organizer is genocidal.

Obama and Hillary are living in a well protected bubble, and they do not care.

February 18, 2008 12:46 PM

jacobt1 said:

Why are Jeffrey Herf and Paul Krugman  so hostile to Barack Obama?

February 18, 2008 1:38 PM

teplukhin2you said:

Is Obama part of the Kucinich wing or the DLC wing of the party?

On the social issues there's relatively little daylight between these two but on the issues that matter most--taxes and budgets, Iraq-Pak-Afghan-- the difference is night and day. Which side is he on?

February 18, 2008 1:40 PM

adsprung said:

Jeffrey Herf: I hope this claim or yours is is true:  "I am, after all, a historian with all of the attention to awareness of difference and specificity of time and place that our discipline fosters. " Why, then, do you refer to "the enemy in Iraq" in the singular? Is that enemy Al Qaeda in Iraq, or  Sunni factions that have not bought into the Anbar Awakening, or the Mahdi Army, or elements in the government and among our new quasi-allies in Anbar who consider each other enemies, or all of the above?  

I too am troubled by Obama's promise to withdraw all troops within sixteen months. But that promise is not made in a vaccuum. Obama has never proposed "surrender," but rather a staged withdrawal of troops coupled with intense diplomatic effort. Sec. of Defense Gates has affirmed that the rpessure of threatened U.S. troop withdrawal is a positive force for reconciliation in Iraq. Why are you casting a strategy that's bidding to gamble on the salutary effects of a 16-month withdrawal as "surrender" to an enemy you fail to define?

February 18, 2008 1:49 PM

Count said:

I disagree rather strongly with the positions taken in this post. The strongest substantive disagreement is on the point of withdrawing from Iraq. This is a serious and important policy question, with rational arguments to be made on either side. It's important to acknowledge that there are two sides of the issue, and not just dismiss one side, as Mr. Herf does here. And Mr. Herf's obvious conflation of the political views of the country as a whole and his own personal political views is grating.

Obama's views, and the views of many liberals, are being misrepresented in a way that suggests political bias triumphing over serious analysis. Mr. Herf asks why no one "puts either [Clinton] or Obama on the spot for failing to speak clearly about Islamic extremism". It's because they in fact do speak clearly about Islamic extremism. The entire premise of a significant portion of this post is simply wrong.

Googling "obama terrorism" brought me to this 8/1/2007 speech very quickly:

my.barackobama.com/.../CpHR

The speech outlines his anti-terrorism vision, with a strong emphasis on the problems in Iraq. Easy to find quote near the beginning of the speech both strongly criticizes the Iraq war (which Mr. Herf has noticed) and explicitly confronts the evil of terrorism (which Mr. Herf has somehow not noticed):

"Just because the President misrepresents our enemies does not mean we do not have them. The terrorists are at war with us. The threat is from violent extremists who are a small minority of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims, but the threat is real. They distort Islam. They kill man, woman and child; Christian and Hindu, Jew and Muslim. They seek to create a repressive caliphate. To defeat this enemy, we must understand who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for.

The President would have us believe that every bomb in Baghdad is part of al Qaeda’s war against us, not an Iraqi civil war. He elevates al Qaeda in Iraq – which didn’t exist before our invasion – and overlooks the people who hit us on 9/11, who are training new recruits in Pakistan. He lumps together groups with very different goals: al Qaeda and Iran, Shiite militias and Sunni insurgents. He confuses our mission.

And worse – he is fighting the war the terrorists want us to fight. Bin Ladin and his allies know they cannot defeat us on the field of battle or in a genuine battle of ideas. But they can provoke the reaction we’ve seen in Iraq: a misguided invasion of a Muslim country that sparks new insurgencies, ties down our military, busts our budgets, increases the pool of terrorist recruits, alienates America, gives democracy a bad name, and prompts the American people to question our engagement in the world.

By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

I loved this speech, from my POV as a liberal who wants a withdrawal from Iraq and also believes Islamic radicalism is an immense threat that has to be confronted. Obviously, Mr. Herf comes from a different POV and disagrees with Obama, but Obama at the very least is treating the subject with the seriousness it deserves.

The idea that Mr. Herf and many conservative commentators push that Democrats are not serious about threats to American security and lives is consistently shown to be false. I'm sure he's right that the Republican party will try to push the same discredited line of argument in the national election; I just don't think they'll work, and they certainly do not have a basis in fact.

February 18, 2008 2:13 PM

roidubouloi said:

Historian?  This man is a historian?  Yet it has escaped his notice that invading Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with the battle against terrorism? That it was based on a spectacular fraud?  That it has done nothing but weaken us in our fight against very real and dangerous enemies?

There is no greater admirer of Franklin D. Roosevelt than I.  I think my parents must have cooed his name to me when I was an infant.  In my one run for public office, described myself to the Dem nominating committee as a "Roosevelt Democrat" although I was some years away from being born when FDR died.  But the very notion that in the year 2008 a campaign should or can be run successfully with constant invocations of Roosevelt is ridiculous.  No, not ridiculous.  It is the sort of faux "advice" that David Brooks is constantly giving Democrats, about how they can run themselves off of a cliff.  

I have a good idea for Herf.  Why doesn't he go to work for the Republican party and advice them to run by constantly invoking Reagan?  Nostalgia for the 80s is sure to do the trick.  It will be a big win for the Republicans and then Herf won't have to worry about the Democrats.

February 18, 2008 2:51 PM

Doug75225 said:

Wow, you guys need to relax a bit. Herf's thesis is this: If the Democratic candidate for president does not project a muscular foreign policy, the Democrats lose.

You really can't argue with that. That's why Kerry lost in '04.

Count, one speech last August does not represent "projecting a muscular foreign policy." Obama needs to repeat those points several times, very clearly, instead of the Tony Robbins-esque "you are the real source of real change."

These are serious times. The American people realize that there are bad actors out there who want to kill us. I just wish the Democratic candidates would realize it , too.

February 18, 2008 5:51 PM

jhildner said:

This rant is based on an ill-informed knee-jerk misperception of Obama.  See the following speech, for example:

www.thechicagocouncil.org/dynamic_page.php

February 18, 2008 5:54 PM

dbhuff said:

This about a candidate who is on the record wanting to INCREASE the military?  Who said chasing and bombing OBL in Pakistan without permission would be justified?  Who has despite the campaign been palying a role in Kenya?

On domestic issues, there's also a clear difference, and Obama is to the right of Hillary.  See commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/.../substance_not_style.html for a primer on Obama's economic approach.  The healthcare mandate is in fact a key difference.

Wow, yes, there are people who want to kill us, and Bush with his 'muscular' policy has made a lot more of them, and done nothing to stop the flow into the killing madrassas.  Obama's stick, negotiation carrot, and sensible expediture of US blood and treasure makes more sense than the last 6 years of insanity, irrespective of any sort of progress from the surge (any oil laws yet???)

February 18, 2008 8:31 PM

roidubouloi said:

"Muscular" is one thing.  Stupid is not muscular.  Herf is pushing the line that the Democrats essentially have to endorse Bush's policies, if not his execution, in order to get elected.  That ain't advice, it is political revanchism, and a load of hooey.  Yes, the rhetoric about Iraq and terrorism has to be especially well thought out, but, no, the Democrats do not have to do a Hillary Clinton to win the presidency.  The Iraq war is unpopular, remember?  There are no WMD's or terrorist bases there, remember?

The Democrats haven't forgotten Roosevelt.  They just don't believe in fighting terrorism with blinding stupidity and self-deception as the weapons of choice.  That is the point that Obama, who made just that point before the war began, is in a singular position to make, and make it he will.

February 18, 2008 9:22 PM

ndmackenzie said:

Jeffrey Herf asks:

--  Is the Democratic Party any longer the party of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, that is, the Roosevelt of the New Deal as well as the Roosevelt whose leadership and decisions were absolutely indispensable to defeating Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan in World War II?

By the time Hitler declared war on the United States, Germany had already conquered almost all of Europe and had invaded Russia. Jeffrey Herf is an imbecile, and not a historian, if he really believes that the magnitude of the threat posed by Osam bin Laden is even remotely comparable to the threat posed by Adolf Hitler.

In his speech declaring war on the United States, Adolf Hitler said:

-- Today I am at the head of the strongest Army in the world, the most gigantic Air Force and of a proud Navy. Behind and around me stands the Party with which I became great and which has become great through me.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../hitler_declares_war.html

Only in the dreams of Osama bin Laden, and the neocons who cream themselves over his dreams, do the intent of his words match those of Adolf Hitler. Osama bin Laden is the nominal head of an essentially miniscule ragbag of terrorists - and for all we know he may have absolutely no authority over anyone at all.  Adolf Hitler, by contrast, was telling the truth when he declared himself "head of the strongest Army in the world."

The person best suited to Preside over the United States is the person most likely to tell us the truth about the magnitude of the threat posed by Osama bin Laden. It will certainly not be someone like the current incumbent who juices the threat to pretend that his small balls are really big cojones.

February 18, 2008 10:09 PM

guyminuslife said:

"Aside from the lunatic fringe, no one claims that the enemy in Iraq is anything but utterly barbaric, inhumane and guilty of hundreds of repeated war crimes in the form of the intentional murder of innocents."

Which enemy? Just curious. Sounding a little Manichean.

February 19, 2008 12:51 AM

fougasseu said:

Obama's vote against the war scares those who are still for the war, or now against the war but afraid to "cut and run", or now against the war but afraid if Obama pulls out he'll abandon the Middle East. In other words, they're reading into his vote their fears, or simply spinning his vote in a way to undermine his candidacy.

I see his vote as being a lack of support for George Bush and Dick Cheney, preventing them from taking pre-emptive action. Nothing more, nothing less. It turns out it was the right vote. Hillary made a serious mistake by going the other way.

The Bush family has now taken firm control of McCain. The capo himself anointed him yesterday, Mercer Reynolds III is now officially collecting the money, Scowcroft will manage foreign policy, and Rob Portman will make sure the Crony Capitalism continues unabated.

This will no longer be a sloppy "maverick" campaign, it will be mean, smart, well-funded, and on the GOP side, centered on fear - on our need to "defend ourselves".

A lot of these postings are fear-centric as well in order to stop Obama. Orwell had it right:

"Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac."

February 19, 2008 8:31 AM

purcellneil said:

If this guy Herf is typical of the quality of minds to be found at Open U, I think we might do better to avoid this place as we do The Spine.  Who knew TNR could house two blogs of such appalling mediocrity?

Neil

February 19, 2008 9:28 AM

sschmanski said:

Thank you, thank you, Jeff. I was looking forward to a substantive and illuminating exploration of the rhetoric of election coverage, but instead found a disappointingly predictable regurgitation of the myth of our "successes" in Iraq. Talk to any high-level officer currently in Iraq (yes, I have), and what you will hear is that we are stifling violence is select, visible locations by paying of perpetrators of violence there with - gasp - weaponry, ammunition, and financial support. What's that you say? Never? Not our military? Alas, it's true. I wonder how the Straight Talk Express will spin it when the money runs out and heavy violence returns.

February 21, 2008 3:18 PM

cspencef said:

Disappointing stuff.  One wonders which United States the author is living in, since he seems to believe that the foreign-policy way to win the election this year is "more of the same, only more so."  

February 22, 2008 2:37 PM

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